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Arbery case - Jury says guilty |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 24 13:28:56 2021 Update |
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Posted by Allan on Wed Nov 24 13:52:21 2021, in response to Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 24 13:28:56 2021. I guess a person, although deceased, can get justice in Georgia.I imagine there will be appeals but the 3 defendants will be in prison for a long time. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 14:07:20 2021, in response to Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 24 13:28:56 2021. It is very encouraging to see this evil lynch mob get the justice they so richly deserve. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 14:21:05 2021, in response to Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 24 13:28:56 2021. Not unexpected at all, but good to see the jury decide guilty. Idiots filmed themselves murdering someone. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 14:23:00 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 14:21:05 2021. I hope that this satisfies the SJWs, instead of continuing to persecute that kid who went to Kenosha.Although this one is also a good verdict. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 14:23:45 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 14:21:05 2021. Now they need to convict the DA who tried to bury this case from the beginning. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 14:34:33 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 14:23:00 2021. Rittenhouse evidently went to see Trump yesterday. His politics are very likely right wing, but laws are irrespective of politics. Or we like to think so. Many would prefer to have juries take politics into account. On both sides I mean. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 14:36:08 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 14:34:33 2021. That’s no crime. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Nov 24 15:39:01 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 14:34:33 2021. The kid will be hauled out at numerous campaign stops for Trump, should he choose to run. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 15:56:40 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Dave on Wed Nov 24 15:39:01 2021. Hopefully Trump will be in prison and this kid can be trotted out by DeSantis or something. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 15:58:12 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 15:56:40 2021. Oy!! |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 16:01:49 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 14:23:45 2021. She should have obviously prosecuted the case, but personal feelings aside, how strong is the legal case against her? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 24 16:09:55 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 15:56:40 2021. Give it up CUNTsler. It isn't happening . Seek help for your TDS |
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Posted by Mtk52983 on Wed Nov 24 16:14:06 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 16:01:49 2021. If you are taking an unbiased position, terrible. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 16:14:07 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 24 16:09:55 2021. Give it up CULTIST. Your lord and savior is a criminal. Find a new messiah. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 24 16:22:02 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 16:14:07 2021. Do you want to tell me what "cult" you claim that I belong to, CUNTsler? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 16:30:26 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Mtk52983 on Wed Nov 24 16:14:06 2021. Well, don't prosecutors have an incredible range of discretion? Isn't the only real no-no to withhold evidence from the defense? |
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Posted by Mtk52983 on Wed Nov 24 16:35:57 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 16:30:26 2021. Not quite. That being said, you would have to refute a defense that no matter how strong I thought case was I didn't expect 12 good ol' boys to convict. Remember it takes only 1 to hang a jury. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 24 16:52:27 2021, in response to Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 24 13:28:56 2021. Correct verdict. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 17:13:11 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Mtk52983 on Wed Nov 24 16:14:06 2021. Thanks. The grand jury voted to indict so perhaps there is additional evidence that isn't yet public? Maybe statements that she made?The interesting backstory that I see is that the police department was feeding information to citizens about the break-ins, including to the retired police officer just convicted. If there is evidence that she didn't prosecute because she thought that the local police might be liable, would that be enough for conviction? I didn't follow all of the trial, but I think that there may be more to this story involving the police. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 24 17:17:02 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 14:34:33 2021. Hes just a kid. What does he know about politics? He obviously is being coached by someone. Hes going to milk this thing for as much exposure & possibly big bucks as he can. Whats next... an appearance on "Dancing With The Stars"? Now he figures on a big payday thanks to slander & defamation lawsuits. I don't think those cases are a slam dunk. The defendants might claim 1st amendment rights inasmuch as calling him a white supremacist was just offering an opinion and is free speech.However, if they falsely accused him of belonging to the KKK, that a different story bringing it to the level of slander. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 17:21:25 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 24 17:17:02 2021. He had an interview with Tucker Carlson and maybe others. I didn't watch any, but evidently before the trial he was in photos taken with the Proud Boys flashing the controversial "ok" sign. He blames that photo on his lawyer that was fired and says that he didn't know that they were Proud Boys or even what Proud Boys are. I think that it was photos like that which helped make him a hero of the right and caused mainstream media to turn against him. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:28:05 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 16:01:49 2021. Hmmm...deliberately hindering prosecution and obstructing a murder investigation?We'll see. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:29:04 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 24 17:17:02 2021. Rittenhouse will kill again. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Nov 24 17:35:17 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 24 16:52:27 2021. IAWTP |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 17:36:40 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:29:04 2021. Bullshit. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:39:39 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 17:36:40 2021. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 17:41:58 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:28:05 2021. ???Since when do prosecutors have any control over an investigation? |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Nov 24 17:43:55 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 17:41:58 2021. quite often, very often they are even the ones that institute an investigation |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:46:02 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 17:41:58 2021. When they tell cops not to perform one. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 17:51:38 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:39:39 2021. Two of the three people with bad behavior are dead though and one is missing a bicep. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:10:00 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:46:02 2021. ???How does that work? Even if the prosecutor says you haven't given me any evidence worth having, the prosecutor doesn't know that the police won't find additional evidence that does have value. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:11:23 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 17:51:38 2021. Rittenhouse may not have committed a crime under WI law but he sure presented atrocious behavior. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 18:13:39 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:10:00 2021. Jackie Jonson has been charged with covering up Arbery's murder (because she knew one of the suspects), and purposefully ordering police not to investigate this crime. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:22:51 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 18:13:39 2021. I don't understand how a prosecutor has the power to order the police not to investigate a crime.Cajole, sure, and that could be obstruction of justice. Provide false information maybe. But order? How could that be? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 24 18:26:04 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 17:21:25 2021. Anyone who thinks of him as a "hero" is a fool. The Proud Boys is a nothing orginazation. That "OK sign connection is bullshit, concocted by internet troublemakers. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 24 18:28:49 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:39:39 2021. Wrong. After all, OJ didn't kill again. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 24 18:30:57 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:29:04 2021. I doubt it. George Zimmerman hasn’t |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:31:23 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 24 18:26:04 2021. Anyone who thinks of him as a "hero" is a fool.Exactly. Bringing a gun to a riot is a reckless disregard of everyone's safety. It's a bit like bear baiting. If you jump into the bear exhibit at the zoo and then the bear starts to maul you and you have to shoot the bear, it's self defense but it's still reckless behavior. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 24 18:31:25 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 24 16:52:27 2021. 👍🏽👍🏽 |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 18:59:42 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:22:51 2021. "Theblbindictment says Johnson violated her oath by "showing favor and affection" to Greg McMichael and "failing to treat Ahmaud Arbery and his family fairly and with dignity." It also says she obstructed police by "directing that Travis McMichael should not be placed under arrest." |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:00:11 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:22:51 2021. "The indictment says Johnson violated her oath by "showing favor and affection" to Greg McMichael and "failing to treat Ahmaud Arbery and his family fairly and with dignity." It also says she obstructed police by "directing that Travis McMichael should not be placed under arrest." |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:01:10 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 24 18:28:49 2021. OJ came close. He carried out an armed robbery. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:02:51 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 24 18:30:57 2021. Not for lack of trying. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:05:18 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 18:59:42 2021. That doesn't answer my question. Where on earth does she get the authority to direct the police not to arrest someone? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:12:54 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:31:23 2021. The bear is an animal who doesn't know anybetter. The 3 perps didn't have to rush Kyle, they did so because they're intolerant. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:15:41 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 17:39:39 2021. If mopes rush him again, threatening to kill him, pointing a pistol or swinging a skateboard at him, then he very well might. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:16:30 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:11:23 2021. Like? |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Nov 24 19:17:17 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:05:18 2021. If the DA says they will not charge or prosecute, or makes it clear that they do not believe a crime has been committed that ties the hands of the police. Or, the evidence uncovered so far is not close to sufficient to support the arrest, and pulling the trigger too soon could prevent the development of this or a larger ongoing investigation. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:29:36 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by pragmatist on Wed Nov 24 19:17:17 2021. All that is a version of cajoling, not really ordering. I agreed that cajoling was possible. |
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