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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:31:25 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:12:54 2021.

I don't disagree, at least for the two who were killed. I never saw anything to indicate that the third guy really understood the situation.

But that's irrelevant. If you bring a gun to a riot you're asking for trouble. It's a police role, not a private role.





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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:32:20 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:15:41 2021.

He has no business as a human being getting into the same situation again unless he becomes a law enforcement officer.



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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:32:49 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:16:30 2021.

Taking a gun to a riot.


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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:34:09 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:05:18 2021.

The district attorney is usually the highest-ranking law-enforcement officer in their jurisdiction.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:36:20 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:34:09 2021.

Really? The DA can give orders to the sheriff or chief of police?



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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:37:54 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:36:20 2021.

Yes.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:40:30 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:36:20 2021.

In the same way, the US Attorney General is in charge of the Justice Department, which directs all the federal law-enforcement agencies.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 24 19:41:00 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 18:11:23 2021.

I agree. It is atrocious behavior to put out fires and render first aid to protestors. Absolutely atrocious.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:44:54 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:31:25 2021.

If you bring a gun to a riot, you are protecting yourself

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:45:52 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:32:20 2021.

I just stated such a situation.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:46:52 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:32:49 2021.

What should he have taken, a spatula?

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:47:57 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 24 19:41:00 2021.

Gadzooks!!!

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So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 19:49:14 2021, in response to Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 24 13:28:56 2021.

This makes me very angry. Not because these guys were convicted but because the faith in our jury system is only deemed satisfactory when the rabble-rousers get the result they want. When Rittenhouse was acquitted, there was rioting and claims of a racist justice system by the New York Times. But now that Arbery’s killers were convicted, everything’s cool.

Our system of justice isn’t supposed to be swayed by mob rule - juries must decide the way we want them to or else we’ll burn down your city. That’s a bullshit way to live. Either you have faith in the system or you don’t - don’t celebrate when a verdict goes your way and burn and loot when it doesn’t. This is a society of laws that apply to everyone. Without exception.

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Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 19:51:45 2021, in response to So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 19:49:14 2021.

If it makes you feel better, I was watching CNN and an assistant law professor from Brooklyn was a guest panelist and she assured us that this verdict means nothing and that the fact that we were concerned about the outcome shows how broken our legal system is. It's all broken Mitch.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 19:54:05 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 24 19:41:00 2021.

We need to leave them space to riot.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:54:51 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:46:52 2021.

He was reckless to go. He has no law enforcement experience.



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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 19:55:35 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 24 19:41:00 2021.

Did he render "first aid"? He was passing out water, but the fact that he was shouting "medic" at the protest despite having no medical training was presented by the prosecution as showing that he didn't consider the best interests of the protestors.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:55:42 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 19:54:05 2021.

I support the police dealing appropriately with rioters. I don't support random vigilantes doing it.



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Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:56:57 2021, in response to So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 19:49:14 2021.

I agree. People shouldn't be applauding Rittenhouse as a hero.



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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:57:57 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:54:51 2021.

He's not free to go where he pleases?

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 20:04:23 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:55:42 2021.

But this wasn't a kase of Kyle hunting them down. This was a case of THEM actively going after Kyle, who was forced to defend himself. Let's not ignore the elephant in the room

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Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 20:06:26 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:56:57 2021.

I wish that I were as smart as you. I have a hard enough time figuring out what I should be doing, but you are able to figure out what other people should and shouldn't be doing. I may disagree with them, but that's it.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 24 20:23:39 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 24 19:01:10 2021.

...but no cigar.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:31:53 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 19:57:57 2021.

People are free to engage in all sorts of reckless behavior. But it shouldn't be applauded.


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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:32:41 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 20:04:23 2021.

I accept the jury's decision that he didn't violate the law. That doesn't mean he acted well.



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Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:33:41 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 20:06:26 2021.

It's my opinion. Feel free to have a different opinion.




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Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 20:39:10 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:33:41 2021.

My opinions are increasingly very different, I just don't suggest that others should share them. Maybe you didn't mean that as literally as I read it.

Kyle Rittenhouse isn't a hero imo, but neither are the people that he shot and the media has called them heroes.

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Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 20:43:07 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 20:39:10 2021.

Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 21:07:10 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:31:53 2021.

He's not being applauded for that

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 21:07:43 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 20:32:41 2021.

He acted exactly as he should have.

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Evidence withheld from Arbery jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 24 21:14:07 2021, in response to Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 24 13:28:56 2021.

Daily Whale

Evidence the Arbery jury never heard: Storekeepers nicknamed Ahmaud 'The Jogger' for stealing and running away — while Travis McMichael (allegedly, hearsay) called him racial slur AFTER shooting him

The jury in Ahmaud Arbery's murder trial retired to consider a verdict after ten days of witness testimony and two days of closing arguments.

After being sworn in more than two weeks ago, the 12-member jury heard from more than two dozen witnesses, including gunman Travis McMichael — the only defendant to take the witness stand.

McMichael, 35, his father, Gregory McMichael, 65, and neighbor William 'Roddie' Bryan Jr., 52, pleaded not guilty to charges including murder, aggravated assault and false imprisonment for the killing in the coastal suburb of Satilla Shores on February, 23, 2020.

After 11 hours of deliberations, gunman Travis McMichael was found guilty on the charge of malice murder, felony murder, aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal attempt to commit a felony.

His father, Gregory McMichael was found guilty of felony murder, aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal attempt to commit a felony. He was found not guilty of malice murder.

Neighbor William 'Roddie' Bryan was found guilty of felony murder, aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal attempt to commit a felony. He was found not guilty of malice murder and one count each of felony murder and aggravated assault.

The defendants told police they thought Arbery was running from a crime and they wanted to make a citizen's arrest — and claimed self defense during the trial.

The men face minimum sentences of life in prison. It is up to the judge to decide whether that comes with or without the possibility of parole. Murder can also be punishable by death in Georgia if the killing meets certain criteria and the prosecutor chooses to seek the death penalty. Prosecutors in this case did not. Each count of aggravated assault carries a prison term of at least one year but not more than 20 years. False imprisonment is punishable by a sentence of one to 10 years in prison.

Before they reached their verdict, the jury — made up of 11 white people and one black person — was presented with hours of testimony, investigator evidence photos, police body camera video, autopsy reports and more, but five arguments were not allowed to be presented.

They included Arbery's mental health records and criminal history, and the fact that trace amounts of THC were found in his blood after his death.

The judge also refused to allow evidence that claimed Arbery was known as 'The Jogger' in the neighborhood because he would jog to convenience stores, and run out with stolen goods, according to witnesses.

The judge also banned the prosecution for presenting evidence* that the McMichaels had a history of sharing racist messages on social media, and that Travis McMichael called Arbery 'a f****** n*****' as Arbery lay dying on the street.
* Hearsay; see below.

On the day of the killing, the jury heard that the McMichaels armed themselves and jumped in a pickup truck to pursue Arbery after he ran past their home from a nearby house under construction.

The McMichaels told police they suspected Arbery was a fleeing burglar when they armed themselves and jumped in a pickup truck to chase him.

Bryan joined the pursuit when they passed his house and recorded cellphone video of Travis McMichael blasting Arbery at close range with a shotgun as Arbery threw punches and grabbed for the weapon.

During the trial, the prosecution aimed to prove the defendants wrongly assumed the worst about Arbery and sought to rebut arguments that they were attempting a valid citizen's arrest, which required that someone have 'reasonable and probable' suspicion that a person is fleeing a serious crime they committed.

'They made their decision to attack Ahmaud Arbery in their driveways because he was a black man running down the street,' Prosecutor Linda Dunikoski said during her closing arguments.

They killed him 'not because he's a threat to them, but because he wouldn't stop and talk to them,' she said.

The state claimed there was no evidence Arbery had committed crimes in the defendants' neighborhood.

Defense attorneys contend the McMichaels were attempting a legal citizen's arrest when they set off after Arbery, seeking to detain and question him as a suspected burglar after he was seen running from a nearby home under construction.

Travis McMichael testified that he shot Arbery in self-defense, saying the running man turned and attacked with his fists while running past the idling truck where Travis McMichael stood with his shotgun.

Defense attorney, Jason Sheffield, said his client had 'reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion' to follow the 25-year-old in his truck because he believed he was a burglar.

He added that although Arbery was not armed with a weapon, Travis McMichael said he had reached into his shirt as if for a weapon, and he was also armed with his fists.

'Travis felt something is not right...Aggravated assault is a felony that can be committed by the use of fists. Fists are a weapon. And right now as Ahmaud Arbery is running towards Travis McMichael he could have a gun and he definitely has fists,' Sheffield said.

On a 911 call the jury reviewed on day two of deliberations, Gregory McMichael told an operator: 'I'm out here in Satilla Shores. There's a black male running down the street.'

He then starts shouting, apparently as Arbery is running toward the McMichael's idling truck with Bryan's truck coming up behind him: 'Stop right there! Damn it, stop! Travis!'

Gunshots can be heard a few second later.

The defense, however, argued the defendants had a right and a neighborly obligation to jump in their pickup trucks and chase Arbery to detain him under Georgia's since-repealed citizen's arrest law because they had reason to believe he may have been connected to previous property crimes that had left the neighborhood on edge.

At one point during her closing argument, Gregory McMichaels' attorney, painted a picture of Ahmaud Arbery as a frightening criminal who had been running around the McMichaels' Satilla Shores neighborhood in 'khaki short, sneakers without socks and 'long, dirty toenails'.

They also allege McMichael fired his gun at Arbery in self-defense.

Arbery's killing became part of a larger national reckoning on racial injustice after the graphic video of his death leaked online two months later and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation took over the case, quickly arresting the three men.

A nearly all-white jury was selected, and one of the defense lawyers — Kevin Gough — repeatedly, but unsuccessfully, sought the removal of black pastors and civil rights leaders including the Rev. Jesse Jackson from the courtroom.

Superior Court Judge Timothy Walmsley said he was required to accept the 'race-neutral' reasons defense lawyers gave for the removal of all but one potential black juror, but said at the jury's selection that it was 'discriminatory'.

These are the key points the 11 white and one black juror did not hear:

Judge ruled Ahmaud Arbery's mental health and criminal history were not relevant to the case

Superior Court Judge Timothy Walmsley ruled the defense could not submit any information regarding Ahmaud Arbery's mental health or criminal history.

The black jogger was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder in 2018 after a June incident in which his mother, Wanda Cooper-Jones, called 911 when he refused to hand over her car keys.

According to the filing from defense attorney Robert Rubin, Cooper-Jones told the dispatcher that Arbery would become violent if police were confrontational.

Walmsley also ruled the jury would not hear how Arbery was on probation for two crimes at the time of his death.

He had brought a handgun to school in 2013 and fled when confronted by police.

Six years later he was caught attempting to shoplift a television.

The defense argued that Arbery's criminal record demonstrated how he 'used running or jogging as a cover to commit crimes' and that he had a pattern of fleeing or responding aggressively to confrontation.

Walmsley ruled it was inadmissible because the defendants were unaware of Arbery's past at the time of the murder.

A trace of THC was found in Ahmaud Arbery's blood

The jury in Ahmaud Arbery's murder trial did not see the toxicology report revealing a small amount of THC, a psychoactive compound in marijuana, found in his blood.

Prosecutors from the Cobb County district attorney's office said initial tests on Arbery's body found no trace of drugs.

A second test found 3.2 nanograms per milliliter of THC, or tetrahydrocannabinol, in his blood, which they called a tiny amount.

Prosecutor Linda Dunikoski said at the time of the ruling that the toxicology reports were irrelevant to the case: 'Why Mr. Arbery did anything he did is completely irrelevant. The question is about what the defendants did, and they knew nothing about what was in his system.'

The defense, however, argued that Arbery had been diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder and that smoking marijuana can cause aggression in someone with this condition.

Travis McMichael 'called Ahmaud Arbery a racial slur after he shot him' (hearsay)

The prosecution pushed Superior Court Judge Timothy Walmsley to allow evidence that gunman Travis McMichael called Ahmaud Arbery a racial slur after he shot him to be presented to the jury, however the request was denied.

A special agent with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) said William 'Roddie' Bryan Jr. said during a May 2020 interview that McMichael called Arbery as 'f***ing n*****' as the black jogger laid on the pavement, dying from the gunshot wounds.

Defense attorney Jason Sheffield has denied that his client, Travis McMichael, used the slur.

Prosecutor Linda Dunikoski has argued 'racial animus' behind the slaying throughout the trial and wanted to question McMichael about the comment.

It was not admissible in court as Bryan, who (claimed to have) heard the alleged comment, never took the stand to testify.

Ahmaud Arbery was known as 'The Jogger' by members of his community for 'in-and-out convenience store thefts'

Ahmaud Arbery, who was fatally shot in February 2020, was known by members of his community as 'The Jogger,' according to Georgia court documents filed last December.

Witnesses claim Arbery would run in and out of local convenience stores, with some alleging he committed crimes while doing so.

'In 2019 and 2020, local convenience store witness interviews reveal Mr. Arbery became known as 'The Jogger' for his repeated conduct and behavior of running up, stretching in front, and then entering several convenience stores where he would grab items and run out before he got caught,' an excerpt from the document read.

Cell phone video from another witness, captured in 2020, revealed that Arbery was confronted by store employees about his alleged thefts.

'Mr. Arbery, concerned about his thefts, chose to fight a man who worked on location at the adjacent truck stop who tried to confront him about it,' the report stated.

Judge Timothy Walmsley ruled that Arbery's past, including the alleged convenience store thefts, were not relevant to the case because the defendants were not aware of it at the time of the shooting.

The prosecution also planned to show the jury Arbery's Nike running shoes during medical examiner Dr. Edmund Donoghue's testimony, in effort to support their argument that he was a jogger who was unfairly targeted.

However, the state ultimately changed course after the defense argued the presentation of Arbery's shoes could lead to arguments about his activities the day of the shooting.

Men accused of killing Ahmaud Arbery had a history of racists posts and messages (alleged)

The court denied the prosecution's request to present all social media posts and text messages to the jury that allegedly demonstrated the men in Ahmaud Arbery's murder trial had a history of racism.

Prosecutors said they wanted to introduce into evidence against Travis McMichael a 'racial highway video Facebook post,' 'a Racial Johnny Rebel Facebook post' and a racial text message, all posted or sent in 2019.

They wanted to admit into evidence an 'Identity Dixie Facebook post' and 'Racial Johnny Rebel Facebook post' against Gregory McMichael.

They also wanted to include alleged racist text messages, including at least one that used the n-word, from William 'Roddie' Bryan Jr.'s cellphone.' During a bond hearing in July 2020, prosecutors said the texts contained 'a ton of filth.'

The prosecution alleged the social media posts offered 'proof of motive'.

Although some social media posts were presented in court, not all initially gathered during evidence collection were deemed admissible.


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Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 22:19:21 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by AlM on Wed Nov 24 19:56:57 2021.

Who’s applauding Rittenhouse as a hero? Even Rittenhouse himself doesn’t think he’s a hero.

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Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 22:25:10 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 24 22:19:21 2021.

A lot of people on the right think of him as a hero and cheer what he did.

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Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 24 22:27:19 2021, in response to Re: So What?? (Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty), posted by Easy on Wed Nov 24 22:25:10 2021.

It’s all about “owning the libs.”

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Nov 25 00:10:39 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Mtk52983 on Wed Nov 24 16:35:57 2021.

saying "good ol' boys" is as offensive as saying "them colored boys".

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by WayneJay on Thu Nov 25 00:40:05 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 24 16:52:27 2021.

Agreed!

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Nov 25 02:46:43 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 24 16:52:27 2021.

Yes sir!

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 06:38:45 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by ntrainride on Thu Nov 25 00:10:39 2021.

The biggest champion on this board of her prosecution is JayZee so I was using his language

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 06:51:02 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 06:38:45 2021.

Why do you think Johnson doesn't deserve to be prosecuted? If the video of Arbery's murder hadn't made it to the media, that entire lynch mob would have gotten away with it, because of her actions.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 25 06:56:08 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by ntrainride on Thu Nov 25 00:10:39 2021.

Maybe to a city boy but out in the real world that’s a valid expression

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:06:59 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 06:51:02 2021.

Because I don’t see what crime to charge her with. Moreover, I think it will have the perverse effect of causing more charges to be brought in questionable cases. That will backlog the system forcing those who can’t afford bail to wait in jail longer. Prosecutors need to have the discretion to determine whether they think they can prevail and on what charges.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 07:08:38 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:06:59 2021.

Why not invent a charge. JZ shit-pantz wants his pound of white flesh.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:09:56 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:06:59 2021.

Johnson chose to shield her friend from the legal consequences of his actions under the authority of her office. This is official misconduct, at a minimum. It was way more than "prosecutor's discretion".

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:10:40 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 07:08:38 2021.

Except that she is charged with actual violations of the law.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:13:37 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:09:56 2021.

If that is the case, then go through the proper channels to remove her from office. Putting her in jail after you already got convictions for the perps doesn’t make things better.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 07:18:07 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:09:56 2021.

What about the Chicago "da" who refused to.prosecute Jussie Smollett. Where are your calls for her to be disciplined or is it black da + black criminal = no prosecution in your book?

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 07:39:07 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 25 07:13:37 2021.

Convicting her makes it abundantly clear that protecting murderers by using the power of your office, is completely unacceptable in a free, democratic society.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 08:27:33 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 07:18:07 2021.

I already said the Chicago DA was wrong. Equating Jussie's behavior with lynch-mob murder? You are a sick little weevil.

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 25 08:56:27 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 25 08:27:33 2021.

When are you going to call for her to be charged, JZ Shitin-pantz

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Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 25 09:23:43 2021, in response to Re: Arbery case - Jury says guilty, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 24 21:07:43 2021.

Except for going to Kenosha in the first place. That was reckless.


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