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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Sep 13 18:35:44 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 11:14:36 2021.

IAWSJM

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:40:29 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 16:54:05 2021.

That's bull. That's another lie. We were leaving them "for our friends", you know, the Afghan army Biden claimed he didn't know would collapse. Can't have it both ways, we either left it for our friends who it was claimed they didn't know would fall or we didn't, and knew it would fall. Which lie do we believe?

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:41:34 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:32:46 2021.

Not having it collapse in the process, while leaving thousands of people behind, and billions in military equipment.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:44:08 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 17:00:33 2021.

We weren't in Afghanistan either. Not one military was killed in 18 months prior to this, and it's been over a decade since at least the number that died in Biden's debacle.
Germany, Japan, would have had a vacuum too if we left back then

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:45:29 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:34:48 2021.

It's a decade since we had the amount of bloodshed a couple weeks ago.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:49:39 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 16:55:29 2021.

Just one right here....
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-peace-us-attacks.html

Furthermore, the agreement said that the us would not attack the Taliban, except to protect Afghan forces. The US (Biden) chose not to.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 19:31:36 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:45:29 2021.

casualties in Afghanistan

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 19:33:13 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:41:34 2021.

Any military equipment we left in Afghanistan was inoperable. The Taliban have even expressed their disappointment over this.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 19:38:21 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:49:39 2021.

Peace agreement
I don’t see where it says that the US will protect Afghan forces. In fact the Afghan government was excluded from this agreement negotiations.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 19:39:07 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 19:33:13 2021.

Right that was a Rupert Murdoch claim that got proven wrong

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 19:51:26 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 19:31:36 2021.

So 60 deaths during the Trump Administration. I might have known Chris's sources were making things up again.



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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Sep 13 19:58:59 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 19:31:36 2021.

T WAS THERE.WITH "CUPCAKES"


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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 20:03:55 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:49:39 2021.

A Taliban commander familiar with the region denied that the group had carried out any strikes on American bases in Helmand and said that the group would investigate. The rocket strikes may also have been carried out by a Taliban faction that is against the agreement, according to one military official who was briefed on the matter.

There were no U.S. casualties in either attack, nor a public response from Washington during a stretch in which American officials have struggled to keep an already shaky peace process on track.


August 30, 2020

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 20:06:41 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 18:41:34 2021.

Given the evidence that the Taliban was paying off regional tribal chiefs I believe Afghanistan would’ve collapsed anyway

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Re: Devil’s Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 20:26:29 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:34:44 2021.

I am sure he wasn't asked not to come

Why?

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 20:30:14 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 13 10:04:25 2021.

You don't know me. Cut the shit ok?

Do I make myself clear?

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Re: Devil’s Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 13 20:32:37 2021, in response to Re: Devil’s Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 20:26:29 2021.

Because if he was disinvited he would not have kept that silent nor should he.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 20:45:50 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 15:31:47 2021.

No I wouldn't, so don't pull a Lo@lm! and put words in my mouth.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 20:46:26 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 15:34:40 2021.

I want them ALL dead!

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 20:48:01 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 19:31:36 2021.

Correct, as I said, almost a decade. 2014 was the lar time so many, till 3 weeks ago

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 20:48:22 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 17:39:00 2021.

Your wit must have escaped me.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 20:49:40 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 20:48:01 2021.

There were more killed in 2019 than 3 weeks ago.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 20:50:11 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 19:38:21 2021.

It was right in the NY times article posted

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 20:50:18 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 20:48:22 2021.

Sorry to hear.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 20:54:19 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 19:33:13 2021.

That is blatantly false. it was being left for our friends....you know the Afghan army Biden claimed he didn't see falling. Can't have it both ways. We either didn't know they would fall and we left it for them, or it was destroyed because we knew (but then Biden would be in a lie)

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 20:56:02 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 20:50:11 2021.

The NYT article says that but it's not in the actual agreement. Also the article is from 2020. The attacks were made against the US in July 2020.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 21:04:06 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 20:49:40 2021.

2014 was the last time there were 13 deaths, and that was one month. 2013 was the last year it was bad all year
since then it was 0,1,2, or 3. your chart shows very clearly how much it had calmed down once 2013.


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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 21:04:18 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 20:49:40 2021.

2014 was the last time there were 13 deaths, and that was one month. 2013 was the last year it was bad all year
since then it was 0,1,2, or 3. your chart shows very clearly how much it had calmed down since 2013.


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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 13 21:08:02 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 20:30:14 2021.

Yet you said about the cops and firemen in the picture: "Fucking assholes each and every one of them should be ashamed of themselves for posing with that fucking traitorous orange bastard.. They are all heroes. So maybe you should cut the shit too.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 21:10:07 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 21:04:06 2021.

Not to play fatality olympics but there were 21 deaths in 2019. If you call that calmed down then 13 is even calmer.

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 21:29:07 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Sep 13 21:08:02 2021.

No.

Where the hell did did I say anything about Obama. You do know how to read don't you.

And I stand by my point

So you cut the shit.



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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 21:33:07 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 21:29:07 2021.

So, exactly WHY are they assholes? You couldn't be a pimple on their asses.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 21:35:03 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 21:10:07 2021.

Again, look at the chart.....and the 2013 numbers and all the years prior. Your chart was very enlightening on how much it had calmed down.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 21:40:53 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Sep 13 21:35:03 2021.

No doubt and 13 is quite calm comparatively (but still tragic, as is 21 or even just 1)

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 21:41:50 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 21:33:07 2021.

You can't figure it out?

It's all in the picture.

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 21:58:26 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 15:43:23 2021.

There was a fasces (the symbol of fascism) behind Trump every time he delivered the State of the Union!

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 13 21:58:54 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 20:30:14 2021.

Whoa whoa whoa jimmy Mac getting his Irish up

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 22:00:17 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 21:33:07 2021.

Because they are happy to be with the traitor.

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 22:22:22 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 13 21:58:54 2021.

Nah, not really…..,it just looks more “Irish” than it is.

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 22:24:23 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 13 21:58:54 2021.

The real anger is with all the corrections I had to do with the voice to text thing.

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 22:32:26 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 21:41:50 2021.

Are you that intolerant that people who pose with Trump are automatically assholes? Those cops and firemen are real heroes, not beta cowards.

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 22:33:22 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 22:00:17 2021.

It's only your opinion that he's a traitor. I haven't seen any specific actions by him to make me think the same.

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 22:35:29 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 21:58:26 2021.

🙄

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 13 22:47:56 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 22:22:22 2021.

Wink wink

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 13 22:48:47 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Jimmymc25 on Mon Sep 13 22:24:23 2021.

It’s such a pain

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 00:06:32 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Jimmymc25 on Sun Sep 12 02:33:39 2021.

Pity none of them heard you say that. You'd be on your back in a split second. Don't go through life being a shitstain, K?

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 00:07:20 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Jimmymc25 on Sun Sep 12 02:33:39 2021.

BTW, what "treason" did he commit, shitstain Nazi?

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 00:09:56 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 22:00:17 2021.

they are happy to be with the traitor



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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 14 00:10:32 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 22:33:22 2021.

Neither did two "impeachment trials".

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Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 14 00:59:33 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence I found him, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 22:33:22 2021.

He adhered to the United States’ enemies, providing aid and comfort to them.

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