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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 12:38:24 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 11:53:44 2021.

just. Love using that word with no real understanding of its real meaning.

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 12:39:27 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 11:55:46 2021.

Gather 'round the Festivus pole!

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 12:40:03 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 12:35:33 2021.

His absence was only mentioned; nobodyís really talking about him. And certainly not insulting him

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 12:40:11 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 12:15:35 2021.

They can't tell him that. The families for the most part would want him there.

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 12:53:24 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 12:38:24 2021.

I exactly understand itís real meaning. Itís you who only uses words that other people have used against you, like a good parrot.

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by ChicagomotormaN on Mon Sep 13 12:53:25 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 12:38:11 2021.

Lol

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 12:54:08 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 12:40:11 2021.

And if they did tell him not to come, weíd all hear about it.

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by ChicagomotormaN on Mon Sep 13 12:55:00 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 11:42:40 2021.

Figures

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 13:22:30 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 13 12:31:18 2021.

That's only your opinion. (In this case)

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 13:23:23 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 12:37:32 2021.

I'm not divided. I didn't even vote for him!

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 13:24:32 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 12:40:03 2021.

I HATED when the Media used to get on Bush's and Obama's kids whenever they were partying. Leave them alone.

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 13:27:00 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 12:54:08 2021.

Yep

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 13:28:21 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 12:30:21 2021.

To mtk, ďnot conservativeĒ means not part of the cult.

Sad.




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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:33:38 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 13 11:05:31 2021.

It's a disgrace that Biden even went there after what he had done with the botched Afghanistan withdrawal.

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:34:44 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 12:54:08 2021.

Yes. I am sure he wasn't asked not to come. But I completely understand the reason he did not.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:38:11 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Sun Sep 12 09:59:37 2021.

Well the future will also decide whether Biden's botched Afghanistan withdrawal will cause even more problems. Time will tell.

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Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 13:41:19 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:34:44 2021.

He didnít because heís a thin-skinned, whiny little bitch.

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Re: Devilís Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 13:42:49 2021, in response to Re: Devil's Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 13 10:00:28 2021.

Even though I do not agree with the fact that Donald Trump did not stand with the current and ex presidents at the World Trade Center last 9 11 2021

What makes you think that the "current" and other ex-presidents wanted him there? You haven't answered that one.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 13:43:00 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:38:11 2021.

It wasnít botched. The problem was withdrawing in the first place and yes, it will cause problems.

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Re: Letís Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence?)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 13:45:26 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:38:11 2021.

Like it isn't right now?

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 13:46:39 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 13:23:23 2021.

I didnít either. We have something in common 🤣

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 13:47:19 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 13 13:24:32 2021.

Yeah everybody but the person who holds office is off-limits.

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 13:48:18 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:33:38 2021.

Biden screwed up. But Bush and Obama are responsible for way more needless deaths than Biden.




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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 13:50:27 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Sep 13 10:55:47 2021.

Yes. There is random minor stuff indicating that they continue to live their lives.



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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 13:55:16 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:38:11 2021.

There will be problems in Afghanistan and they will not be our problems

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Re: Devilís Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 13 13:55:35 2021, in response to Re: Devilís Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 13:42:49 2021.

Why should Donald Trump care whether they wanted him there or not?

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 13:59:04 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 13:38:11 2021.

Any botching Biden did will have no future impact except for certain individuals who got shafted. The Taliban won't encourage al Qaeda more, or less, just because of the manner of our withdrawal.

Any future terrorism arising out of Afghanistan because we have no control there any more is a consequence of the decision to withdraw, made by Trump, and not the poor follow-through implemented by Biden.



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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:00:37 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 13:43:00 2021.

It most definitely BOTCHED.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:01:00 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 13:55:16 2021.

LOL. They absolutely will be.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:01:54 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 13:59:04 2021.

Here we go again with the blaming others. Biden is president, not trump. It's the WAY it was done.

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Re: Conspicuous Absence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:02:53 2021, in response to Re: Conspicuous Absence, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 13:48:18 2021.

The Biden withdrawal plan has nothing to do with Bush or Obama. Or Trump

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Re: Devilís Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 14:06:17 2021, in response to Re: Devilís Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 13 13:55:35 2021.

That's not the relevant matter. Why would a cabal that "impeached" him twice even allow him to be with them? Think about it this time.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 14:25:38 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:01:54 2021.

You are the one who brought up future consequences, not me. The way the withdrawal was done has no future consequences for the United States. It does have terrible future consequences for certain individuals who should have been rescued and weren't, but that wasn't the topic of your post.




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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 14:26:38 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:01:00 2021.

If so, the decision to withdraw will turn out to have been a bad one.



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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 14:28:51 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 13 13:55:16 2021.

Ignorant statement: there were problems in Afghanistan before 2001 that weren't our problem until they became our problem. You marxist liberals never seem to learn that lesson.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:29:53 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:00:37 2021.

By Trump who made a deal with the fucking TALIBAN.

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Re: Devilís Advocate, Conspicuous Absence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:31:04 2021, in response to Re: Devilís Advocate, Conspicuous Absence, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 14:06:17 2021.

So the US Government is a ďcabalĒ to you? FASCIST SCUM.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 14:31:36 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 13:59:04 2021.

And I hope that the next time there is a terrorist attack in NYC, you and your wife have front row seats for the action.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 14:33:19 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:29:53 2021.

But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:45:58 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Train Dude on Mon Sep 13 14:33:19 2021.

You just canít resist mindlessly chanting the name of your lord and savior.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:47:56 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:29:53 2021.

Again, Trump is not president. Even if you believe Trump would have done this BOTCHED withdrawal in the same POOR way Biden did it, it would still be hypothetical. BIDEN is president. HE decided, and ORDERED it to be done as it was done, (Even against recommendations by advisors).
There were many ways this could have been done, and it was OBVIOUS, this was one of the BOTCHED ways.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:48:23 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:45:58 2021.

And you are so obsessed, he's still to blame even though not in power.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:49:00 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 14:26:38 2021.

No, not the decision to withdraw, but to have allowed it to happen and done it the way it was done WILL be.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:49:21 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:47:56 2021.

Trump was president when he made the deal with terrorists.

The withdrawal was not botched.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:50:13 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:48:23 2021.

How the fuck do you justify not blaming him for things that were actually done on his watch? Your attempt to deflect all blame from him is pathetic.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:50:20 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by AlM on Mon Sep 13 14:25:38 2021.

I SAID, the future will decide if the way it was done will bring in bad consequences.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:50:57 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:49:00 2021.

You keep blaming Biden for a supposedly botched withdrawal and yet you canít explain how it was botched.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:52:06 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:49:21 2021.

The withdrawal absolutely WAS Botched. The way it was done on our presidents watch was reprehensible.

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Re: Letís Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence?)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 13 14:52:49 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:50:57 2021.

and yet you canít explain how it was botched

If it was deliberate, then it was a war crime on Biden's part. Don't go there.

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Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Sep 13 14:53:01 2021, in response to Re: Lets Talk About Who Was There (was: Conspicuous Absence), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 13 14:50:13 2021.

And if he was reelected, and he did it in the POOR BOTCHED way Biden did it (yes, Biden did it), then Trump would be to blame, but he is not president, and in no way orchestrated the disaster that Biden allowed and ordered to happen.

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