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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 18 01:36:37 2021, in response to Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 01:30:49 2021. He said no such thing. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 05:11:24 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 18 01:36:37 2021. Here’s an exact quote.“Shootings, gun laws, access to weapons. Oh, I know when they’ll change,” said the anchor. “[When] your kids start getting killed. White people’s kids start getting killed.” |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 18 06:14:44 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 05:11:24 2021. Which is not what you claimed he said. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 08:16:14 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 18 06:14:44 2021. A lot of people will think that is exactly what he said. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Apr 18 08:27:00 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 08:16:14 2021. Some might but most won't. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 08:40:51 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Dave on Sun Apr 18 08:27:00 2021. “Some” is all you need to cause a lot of death. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 18 09:40:09 2021, in response to Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 01:30:49 2021. Usual troll patrol trolling you. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 18 10:42:53 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 18 06:14:44 2021. It's not but it's in that area that would be completely inappropriate in most other circumstances. Read it again and replace white with asian to see what I mean. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 18 11:09:30 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 18 10:42:53 2021. I don’t see it. That wouldn’t make sense. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 18 11:34:26 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 18 10:42:53 2021. I feel that Cuomo shouldn't have said it, because it seems that some really stupid people are misunderstanding him.But what is wrong with what he said? He said that if the police were killing white kids at a significant rate, there would be police reform. Do you disagree? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 18 11:39:38 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 18 11:34:26 2021. I don't even know what he's talking about. He appears to be talking about gun control laws and not police. Is his point that black kids have too many guns because white people won't vote to change gun laws? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 18 11:42:21 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 18 11:39:38 2021. OK, I agree, I don't fully understand what he is talking about either. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 18 13:09:49 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 05:11:24 2021. Culturally speaking, that won't happen. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 15:25:05 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 18 13:09:49 2021. Never say never. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 18 16:12:49 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 15:25:05 2021. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Apr 19 16:04:10 2021, in response to Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 01:30:49 2021. He failed to mention that not too many 13 year old white kids, roam the mean streets of Chicago at 2AM with a handgun. Right? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 20 08:50:32 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 18 11:42:21 2021. Hm? I thought you hit the nail on the head. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 20 09:52:18 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 18 11:39:38 2021. What I took away from Fredo's comments is that too many black kids are killed by cops but no changes will be made in police procedures until white kids start getting shot. I think that he's wrong but that seems to be where he's heading. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 14:50:12 2021, in response to Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 01:30:49 2021. Somebody once asked Truman to define the difference between a recession and depression. His reply was, if your neighbor loses his job then it's a recession. If you lose your job, then it's a depression.Something similar happened with the Vietnam War. There was support, while other people were being drafted. That support evaporated, when they started drafting white and upper class kids out of college. Support for the police is similar to support for the Vietnam War before Johnson escalated in 1965. The war's excesses were far away and remote. Serious questions regarding our involvement were not raised, until the draft notices started appearing. Support for the police will erode, when a dangling crucifix becomes an excuse for interrogating the more affluent. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 20 15:22:06 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 14:50:12 2021. Do then, you are saying that affluent white people don't use air fresheners in their car or are you saying that they use it appropriately? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Apr 20 15:36:19 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 18 08:40:51 2021. As long as Spider-pig can deflect blame from his party, it doesn't matter the body count. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 17:37:39 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 20 15:22:06 2021. you are saying that affluent white people don't use air fresheners in their car or are you saying that they use it appropriately?There are other possibilities. Here's one. The police use their discretion to decide against whom to enforce various laws. You observed that 2/3's of the drivers were operating cars in an illegal manner. You did not mention the transgressors' race. I'm assuming that 2/3's of LI Parkway users are not black. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 20 17:48:52 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 17:37:39 2021. There is your own racism at play. My town is 54% white which means that 46% other. I didn't count how many BMWs were among them |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 20 18:46:36 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 14:50:12 2021. "That support evaporated, when they started drafting white and upper class kids out of college".Nonsense. White kids were drafted all along, long before Johnson. Last time I looked, Elvis was white. "Serious questions regarding our involvement were not raised, until the draft notices started appearing." More nonsense. Serious questions regarding our involvement started not when draft notices started appearing, it started when more and more young boys of all colors were coming home in flag draped caskets in a conflict without any real objective. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 20 18:51:41 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 20 18:46:36 2021. PWN3D! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 20 19:34:27 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 20 18:46:36 2021. Nonsense. White kids were drafted all along, long before Johnson. Last time I looked, Elvis was white.Working class white kids. There were college deferrals which kept middle class white kids out of the military for a long time. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 20 19:40:15 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 20 19:34:27 2021. So college deferrals didn't happen to middle class black kids??Are you saying they didn't exist back then? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 20 19:42:12 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 20 19:40:15 2021. Are you aware the black middle class was way smaller back then? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 20:11:15 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 20 18:46:36 2021. White kids were drafted all along, long before Johnson. Last time I looked, Elvis was white.The way the draft worked before the lottery was oldest first, from 26 down to 18. There were some rules that placed those who were deferred at the top of the list and extended their eligibility until 35. The extended eligibility was a myth because Eisenhower's executive order declared over 26 could not be called up until all under 26 had been. Before Johnson's Feb 1965 escalation, the call up age was around 24. This meant there was sufficient time to go to college, get married, 2 kids and get a hardship deferrment. Options included 5 years of graduate school or an industrial deferement. The call up age fell to 22 within a couple of months due to Johnson's escalation. It had fallen to 18 1/2 within a year. This put a severe strain on what had hitherto been an easy way to avoid military service via college and marriage. Serious questions regarding our involvement started not when draft notices started appearing, it started when more and more young boys of all colors were coming home in flag draped caskets in a conflict without any real objective. Johnson escalated the war on Feb 7th 1965. The teach-ins started on March 26th 1965. The big increase in deaths lagged by a couple of years. 
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Apr 20 20:20:03 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 20 18:51:41 2021. IAWTP |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 20 20:45:49 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 17:37:39 2021. Race has nothing to do with unsafe drivers. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 20 20:46:03 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 20 17:48:52 2021. Yep! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 20 21:09:45 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 20 19:42:12 2021. Census numbers of the day would dictate that since the black population numbers overall are about 18% of the total USA population. In other words, way smaller than whites. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 20 21:23:14 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Apr 20 20:45:49 2021. Bauman counts Jews behind the wheel. He still holds grudges because of Crown Heights |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 21:25:39 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 20 17:48:52 2021. My town is 54% white which means that 46% other.I'm sorry. You mentioned the LI Parkways, I assumed the percentage of drivers reflected the percentage of whites in Nassau or Suffolk Counties. These percentages are 75% and 84%, respectively. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 20 21:32:26 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 20 17:48:52 2021. I believe you.Its the Democrats who seek the whitest zip code possible. List to come. .... |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Apr 20 21:37:36 2021, in response to Re: Fredo: Kill White Kids to Spur Police Reform, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 20 21:09:45 2021. the black population numbers overall are about 18% of the total USA population.Not even close. It's 13.4%. Back in 1967, they were 11% of the population, 16% of the draftees, and 23% of the combat troops in Vietnam |
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