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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 13:28:10 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 13 13:15:15 2021.

THIS WAS WRONG

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 13:37:11 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 13:28:10 2021.

Why?

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jan 13 13:37:40 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 13:27:42 2021.

Or people who oppose abortion because of their strong "Catholic beliefs" but the page with CCC 2267 is missing from their editions.
that's not to say there are not strong arguments on both issues from both sides, it's just how people frame them that is laughable.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 13 13:37:45 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 09:37:55 2021.

Only 15 years? Last I read the average was about 20 something years. There was one cop-killer on the row for 30 years, then the lawyers argued it's cruel and unusual because he doesn't even remember doing the crime anymore.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 13:45:03 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 13:37:11 2021.

I AM AGAINST STATE SPONSORED MURDER

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 13 13:45:47 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jan 13 13:37:40 2021.

Abortion is killing the innocent
Death penalty is ridding the world of those found guilty

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 13:47:08 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 13 13:45:47 2021.

Which is irrelevant. The Catholic Church proscribes both. You can’t claim that your strong Catholic beliefs cause you to oppose abortion if you also support capital punishment.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 13 13:49:23 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 12:28:45 2021.

What the fuck does Diana Ross have to do with this. You're nuts!

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 14:08:14 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 13 13:49:23 2021.

Tee hee hee.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 13 14:11:16 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 13:45:03 2021.

How about brutal murder & natal evisceration aka cutting out the baby from the mother? How does the Quran deal with that??

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 14:17:23 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 13:45:03 2021.

But you are not against black women murdering police officers. Why is that?

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 14:22:27 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 13 14:11:16 2021.

He's not a Muslim.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 13 14:28:56 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jan 13 12:02:03 2021.

She wasn’t getting out.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 15:04:19 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 13 14:17:23 2021.

SHE DID NOT MURDER

LIAR

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 15:05:24 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 13 14:11:16 2021.

SHE WAS RAPED AND TORTURED AS A CHILD AND TEENAGER



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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 15:09:15 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 15:05:24 2021.

Sad but doesn't excuse her crime.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 13 15:17:24 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 15:05:24 2021.

NO question she lived a horrible life. But that doesn't entitle her to avoid the punishment that the state allows. Her case reminds me of Charlie Manson & what he did to an 8 month pregnant Sharon Tate.
If anyone should have swung from the gallows pole, it was him.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 15:18:08 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 13 15:09:15 2021.

THE DEATH PENALITY IS WRONG AS THAT

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 15:18:41 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 13 15:17:24 2021.

HE DIED IN CUSTODY

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 13 16:16:45 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 15:18:41 2021.

Just like all those who participated in a murder (whether or not they actually pulled the trigger) should.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 16:29:30 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 13 16:16:45 2021.

IDWYP

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Are dee em on Wed Jan 13 17:51:01 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 16:29:30 2021.

Omg. So much clap trap. So much easier for this tortured soul. So much easier for the rest of us anxious to wash are hands of this. We put animals down for a lot less. Put yourself into the horror of this victim that had her full term unborn child cut out of her womb and then get back to me.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 17:55:03 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Are dee em on Wed Jan 13 17:51:01 2021.

IDWYT

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 21:47:38 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jan 13 15:17:24 2021.

The Koran also says that camel meat is halal, but salaam won't eat any, preferring a Kosher diet.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 13 23:55:22 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 21:47:38 2021.

i am so sick of seeing the word "halal".

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 23:58:06 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 13 23:55:22 2021.

AWWWWWWWWWWWW

TOO BAD

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 13 23:58:29 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 21:47:38 2021.

I WOULD NOT EAT THAT

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 00:05:25 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 13 21:47:38 2021.

Hows about camel toe?

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 14 00:07:39 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 00:05:25 2021.

Nancy Pelosi with Camel Toe? Might want to gouge you eyes out.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 00:24:06 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 14 00:07:39 2021.

Vomit Central

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 14 02:58:20 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Was Executed Today, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 00:24:06 2021.

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Jan 14 13:31:33 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 12 12:19:09 2021.

A bit late now, but I just read the Fox News article about Lisa Montgomery. Even it paints her as a sympathetic figure.

I'm still anti-death penalty.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 14 13:55:17 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Jan 14 13:31:33 2021.

I am pro-Death penalty in certain cases. If the maximum sentence is life without parole and your crime has hit that, what stops you from going further? On the other hand, making too much eligible for the death penalty will lead to the same issue because if you can get the needle without killing somebody, you might as well kill them so they can't identify you.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 14:18:27 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 14 13:55:17 2021.

I am only pro-death penalty for treason, rebellion, and espionage.

You can always have the defendant plead to life with parole, which doesn't mean that parole will ever actually be granted.

By the same logic, if you reach the threshold for being executed, what stops you from going further? There will always be a maximum penalty.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 14 14:22:31 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 14 13:55:17 2021.

I'd be more willing to support the death penalty if the burden of proof were higher than for life without parole.



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Next Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 14 15:26:49 2021, in response to Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 12 10:59:20 2021.

There is another federal execution scheduled for today and one tomorrow. Both were stayed by a federal judge because both reportedly have Covid. Another appeals judge reportedly lifted the stay, however.

Should we wait until a convict is in perfect health before he/she is executed? Is high blood sugar or gout grounds for a stay?

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 14 18:00:43 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 14:18:27 2021.

I am against the death penalty as I believe only God can take a life other than self defense or self preservation (war) but since I have no say in the sentencing I don't get upset if someone who deserves execution gets executed!!

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Re: Next Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 14 18:02:47 2021, in response to Next Not Be Executed Today, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 14 15:26:49 2021.

...and they swab the arm with alcohol before the lethal injection.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 14 19:03:11 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 14 18:00:43 2021.

Reasonable position

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Re: Next Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 14 19:04:28 2021, in response to Re: Next Not Be Executed Today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 14 18:02:47 2021.

Well we don't want them to get an infection.

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Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 19:08:07 2021, in response to Re: Lisa Montgomery Will Not Be Executed Today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 14 18:00:43 2021.

I agree with this except for the religious aspect.

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Re: Next Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 20:26:28 2021, in response to Re: Next Not Be Executed Today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 14 18:02:47 2021.

That was a great George Carlin line.

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Re: Next Not Be Executed Today

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 14 21:06:32 2021, in response to Re: Next Not Be Executed Today, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 20:26:28 2021.

That's where I got it from. Even though I stopped being a fan of his when his routines became too political.

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