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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 6 21:33:38 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 6 21:27:56 2020.

I like Koch. He was a good mayor.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by pragmatist on Sun Dec 6 21:46:08 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 6 21:33:38 2020.

He wasn't weak. Wasn't afraid to stand his ground, but didn't have the nastiness or constant need to be the center of attention, characteristics that have afflicted most of his predecessors and successors in one way or another.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by pragmatist on Sun Dec 6 22:00:39 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 6 21:14:41 2020.

At 76 years old, he is in a higher risk group notwithstanding the cancer. As far as I know, he was admitted to Georgetown Hospital, which makes complete sense. For many years he worked hard for the people, I think it is said to see him in his present state, he has almost become a cartoon character, but I certainly will not wish evil for him....

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 6 22:03:33 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 6 21:33:38 2020.

Not really.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 6 22:06:27 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 6 22:03:33 2020.

Well, I liked him.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 22:07:30 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 6 20:34:26 2020.

I don’t. I got the antibody test and was negative.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 22:09:01 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Dec 6 20:31:05 2020.

IAWTP

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 6 22:25:38 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 22:07:30 2020.

I'm glad you're ok.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Easy on Sun Dec 6 22:25:59 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 6 22:06:27 2020.

He was likable. Good mayor is very questionable.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 6 22:30:07 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Easy on Sun Dec 6 22:25:59 2020.

ALL the mayors have their pros and cons

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Dec 6 22:53:44 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 22:07:30 2020.

The antibodies don't last too long.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Dec 6 22:54:27 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 22:09:01 2020.

You agree that I like him?

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 23:02:11 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Dec 6 22:53:44 2020.

This was early enough in the pandemic.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 23:02:36 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Dec 6 22:54:27 2020.

Yes, of course. Why would I disagree?

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 6 23:05:00 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by pragmatist on Sun Dec 6 22:00:39 2020.

What I don't get is why did he get involved with Trump in the first place? His legacy and place in history is pretty much cemented inasmuch as his turning around NYC and reducing crime and improving the quality of life for city residents during his tenure as mayor. Having the city do a 180 after the mess that Dinkins left him was no easy task.
Then there was 9/11. His accomplishments in bringing the city back & keeping it together are known worldwide to the degree that earned him the "America's Mayor" knickname.
Now, he's turned into a caricature of himself & coming off as unhinged & desperate in trying to save Trump's job.
He just should have retired, made some speeches, write a few more books, keep his radio show & enjoy his remaining years.
But no. Thats not his way.
Regardless, I hope he recovers. IMO history will judge him as a good decent man who just didn't know when to get off the stage.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 23:13:00 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 6 23:05:00 2020.

Unlike Biden, I think he’s actually suffering from age-related dementia.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 6 23:44:11 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 6 22:30:07 2020.

Find us one "pro" for Comrade Wilhelm.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 7 00:06:44 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 6 20:26:42 2020.

Filming That Borat Giuliani Scene Was As Uncomfortable As You’d Think - The Cut

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Dec 7 01:38:48 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 6 21:14:41 2020.

Good enough.

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Re: Giuliani has COVID: AZ legislature shuts down for a week

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 7 01:54:18 2020, in response to Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 6 15:41:23 2020.

Fire up the Zoom session, then, ya big wusses.

Arizona Capital Times

Giuliani COVID-19 diagnosis closes Arizona Legislature

By: Dillon Rosenblatt and Julia Shumway
December 6, 2020
The Arizona Legislature will be closed all next week after at least 15 current or future Republican legislators may have been directly exposed to COVID-19 by meeting with Rudy Giuliani.

President Donald Trump announced on Twitter Sunday that Giuliani, his personal attorney, tested positive for the virus less than a week after holding an unofficial hearing at the Hyatt Regency Phoenix on Monday Nov. 30.

Giuliani visited Arizona this past week as one stop on his traveling legal tour alleging there was widespread fraud in the election. Giuliani and fellow Trump attorney Jenna Ellis talked — unmasked — for roughly 11 hours in the hotel ballroom with several lawmakers.

Rep. Mark Finchem, the leader of the election fraud conspiracy committee, along with Rep. Bret Roberts, Rep. David Cook, Rep. Leo Biasiucci, Sen. Sylvia Allen, Sen. David Gowan, Sen. Sonny Borrelli, Senator-elect Kelly Townsend and Senator-elect Nancy Barto were all part of the panel.

Rep. Anthony Kern, Sen. David Farnsworth, Representative-elect Quang Nguyen, Representative-elect Judy Burges, Representative-elect Brenda Barton and Senator-elect Wendy Rogers were also spotted in attendance as well as potentially others.

The next day, Giuliani visited the state capitol and met with several additional lawmakers, including Gowan, Borrelli, Senate President Karen Fann, Senate Majority Leader Rick Gray, House Speaker Rusty Bowers, House Majority Leader Warren Petersen, Sen. Michelle Ugenti-Rita and Sen. Vince Leach.

It’s unclear when Giuliani officially tested positive or when he was exposed, but the average incubation period is about a week making it more likely that he was exposed before Arizona, but still possible he was exposed here. Giuliani was swiftly admitted to Georgetown University Medical Center, according to ABC News.

Arizona, as well as every other state, is going through the worst bout of Covid over the nine months the pandemic has been active in the United States. Arizona reported another 5,376 positive cases on Dec. 6 along with 25 reported deaths bringing the state’s overall total to 364,276 known cases and 6,950 deaths.

Giuliani traveled to Michigan and Georgia after Arizona this past week, likely exposing other legislators as well.

Several lawmakers who attended the unofficial hearing on Nov. 30 also attended the Legislature’s new member orientation later in the week, potentially exposing even more lawmakers and many state government employees. Nguyen, Burges and Rogers were at both events.

Sen. Andrea Dalessandro, D-Sahuarita, said she’s making plans to take a test Wednesday after learning that several of the GOP legislators she attended the orientation with had spent time with Giuliani.

Only one of the nearly dozen new Republican lawmakers consistently wore a mask at the three-day event, though attendees had been assured ahead of time that anyone who chose not to wear a mask would be asked to watch presentations remotely, Dalessandro said.

“I went because I hoped to interact with more of the new Republicans,” she said. “But I didn’t get to do that, because I wouldn’t walk up to their desks, which only had Plexiglas on the sides, not in the front, if they didn’t have a mask on.”

Incoming Republican Rep. Joel John of Buckeye, the lone new Republican to wear a mask through the entire orientation, said he didn’t know some of his new colleagues had been around Giuliani until the Capitol Times called him. He said he’ll continue socially distancing and wearing a mask, and will plan to take a test if he starts experiencing symptoms.

In a Sunday afternoon email sent to all senators and staff and obtained by the Arizona Capitol Times, Senate Chief of staff Wendy Baldo wrote that the Senate will be closed all week “due to COVID-19 concerns and out of an abundance of caution.” At least three interim committee meetings had already been scheduled this week and were expected to proceed in a hybrid format with Republicans and staff in a hearing room and Democrats attending by video; those meetings must be rescheduled remotely according to Baldo’s email.

A House GOP spokesman said the House would follow suit.

Roberts, Kern and likely others who attended the unofficial hearing Nov. 30 plan to hold a “protect the vote” rally at the Capitol on Dec. 7. “It’s a rally to support the legislature calling for decertification of the election results. Legislators will be there,” Roberts tweeted. Kern posted about the rally after Giuliani’s diagnosis was announced.

As COVID rages on, Democratic Rep. Arlando Teller has been hospitalized from the virus for several days and is at least the sixth known lawmaker to test positive since March. Sen. Lupe Contreras, D-Avondale, Rep. Joanne Osborne, R-Goodyear, Rep. Lorenzo Sierra, D-Avondale, Rep. Raquel Terán, D-Phoenix and Rep. Andres Cano, D-Tucson all have tested positive for COVID-19. Sierra was hospitalized in Washington, D.C., and was intubated as well before recovering.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Dec 7 03:49:23 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 6 23:44:11 2020.

Term limits

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Dec 7 03:51:24 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Dec 6 23:05:00 2020.

Ego. Trying to stay relevant. Just to name two reasons.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 7 05:51:20 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 6 21:27:24 2020.

It's who she is.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 7 06:50:22 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Dec 6 21:27:24 2020.

No, it’s honest. He spends all his time among all those infected people, what do you expect? When you sleep with dogs you get fleas.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Dec 7 07:39:36 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Dec 7 03:49:23 2020.

That didn't work with Bloomberg.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 07:40:54 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Dec 7 07:39:36 2020.

Bloomberg pulled a one-time trick.

And now Christine Quinn is thinking of running for mayor again!

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Dec 7 07:46:25 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 7 00:06:44 2020.

I hate Giulliani's guts and really hate to defend him but how many guys would turn her down after she invited them into her room on her bed after an interview??

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 07:47:15 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by pragmatist on Sun Dec 6 21:46:08 2020.

but didn't have the nastiness or constant need to be the center of attention

I think he had a pretty high need to be the center of attention.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 07:49:19 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 07:40:54 2020.

Christine Quinn has actually declared her intent to run.

I know Christine, served on her LGBTQ Steering Committee when she was in the City Council.

However, she undermined her own political future on two key issues:

She allowed the demolition of St. Vincent's Hospital in her own district to proceed, in spite of loud and repeated community opposition. As a result, today there is no Level I trauma center south of 59th Street on the West Side of Manhattan.

DeBlasio beat Quinn at her own game during the 2013 primaries, getting more of the LGBTQ vote than she did. That was her core constituency.

If she wants to run successfully this time around, Quinn needs to pay closer attention to things like these.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 07:51:22 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 6 20:37:11 2020.

It's Trump's recklessness that any lackey of his who insists on wearing a mask falls into disfavor. I wouldn't blame Rudy for that.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 07:52:40 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 07:49:19 2020.

I didn't vote for her because I don't vote for people who I know to have accepted a bribe.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Dec 7 07:53:52 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 07:40:54 2020.

Curtis Sliwa is running and he'd be an awesome Mayor. The only negative is that would be the end of Curtis & Julliette which I listen to religiously!!

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 08:02:15 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 07:52:40 2020.

While not addressing the bribery allegation directly, I do think some kind of quasi-legal deal was made between her and Bovis to let the St. Vincent's demolition and luxury high rise happen.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Dec 7 08:23:30 2020, in response to Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 6 15:41:23 2020.

You're going out of your mind again.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 08:34:49 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 08:02:15 2020.

I allege bribery (not necessarily criminal in nature, but some kind of shabby quid pro quo) concerning her agreeing to Bloomberg being able to run for a third term.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 08:35:28 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Dec 7 08:23:30 2020.

???

It's Trump who says Rudy has covid.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Dec 7 08:38:38 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 6 23:13:00 2020.

But nothing about Pelosi here.

You're not abusing women right? Remember the warning.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 08:39:56 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 08:34:49 2020.

There WAS a quid pro quo. I know that for a fact. Bloomberg agreed to support Christine's Mayoral campaign in exchange for her engineering a loophole in the term limits law (so that Bloomberg could run again), despite people voting for term limits on the Mayor and PA, TWICE.

I publicly criticized Christine over this on WWRL when it happened.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 08:41:19 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Dec 7 08:23:30 2020.

What?

Trump announced Rudy's COVID diagnosis, and Rudy himself acknowledged that he's being treated for it in the hospital.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Dec 7 08:52:59 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 08:41:19 2020.

What's this have to do with peeing on sheets?

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 08:56:37 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Dec 7 08:52:59 2020.

Who said anything about peeing on sheets?

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Dec 7 09:17:32 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 08:39:56 2020.

And the three listeners heard your criticism.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 09:32:27 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Dec 7 09:17:32 2020.

Actually, Pride Equality Radio had thousands of listeners OTA and online during the years it ran.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 7 11:05:42 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 07:49:19 2020.

I remember that about St Vincent's demolition. I was sad to see it go. Its the Hospital where I was born.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Dec 7 11:16:28 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 7 08:02:15 2020.

I always thought the deals were with Rudin, and Bovis was just the contractor carrying it out...

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 7 11:16:56 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 07:51:22 2020.

Why? He chose to follow Trump to the gates of hell. If he’s actually suffering from senile dementia, then he’s to be pitied, but if he’s still of sound mind, then he made his own bed. I don’t wish for him to die either way, though. When Trump had COVID, yes, I wished for him to die. Now, I don’t.

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Dec 7 11:29:37 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 7 11:16:56 2020.

rofl

'If you look at those results, you see that Donald Trump did very well, even better than four years earlier, with the white working class,' Basham said.

'He held his own with women and suburban voters against all of most of the polling expectations, did very well with Catholics, improved his vote among Jewish voters.

'He had the best minority performance for a Republican since Richard Nixon in 1960, doing so well with African-Americans, and importantly with Hispanics.'

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Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 7 11:44:16 2020, in response to Re: Giuliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 7 11:16:56 2020.

I agree that Rudy's choosing to be a Trumpist lackey, thus destroying his reputation, is his own foolishness, possibly brought on by dementia. But he may not have realized that part of being a lackey was not just putting your reputation on line, but your health and safety too.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 7 12:03:56 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Dec 7 03:49:23 2020.

I'd much rather have eligibility be the determining factor, but that'll have to do for now.

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Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 7 12:05:06 2020, in response to Re: Guiliani Has COVID: Trump, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Dec 7 07:39:36 2020.

You mean Bloomberg's still mayor?

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