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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 21 15:20:33 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 21 15:09:57 2020.

GOOD FOR YOU

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 21 15:28:18 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 21 15:19:49 2020.

Can you think for yourself, or do you need Big Government to do it for you?

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 21 15:30:05 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Nov 21 15:20:33 2020.

Yes, they work.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 21 15:30:25 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 21 15:28:18 2020.

Since too many people don't have much for brains, we get safety laws.
Would you like to abolish seatbelt laws on planes too ?

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 15:44:05 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 11:12:15 2020.

I remember it well as it's near my neighborhood and I've used the School Street crossing many times. I don't remember reading that it was illegals. Anyway, even if they were illegal it shouldn't be plural "illegals" as only the driver who cost the taxpayers the money. The passengers, whether legal or not, were innocent of any traffic laws. RIP all of them.
By the way. The school street grade crossing elimination is finished and open. I went through it the other day. It is the steepest LIRR underpass I've ever seen, much steeper than any other new elimination on the main line. I thought I was driving on a roller coaster!!
(I'm going to miss hearing the whistles from that crossing late at night at my house 3 miles away!!)

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 15:48:13 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by pragmatist on Sat Nov 21 11:03:30 2020.

"I don't want to pay for other peoples stupidity."

Then you have the choice to be uninsured.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by pragmatist on Sat Nov 21 15:51:11 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 15:48:13 2020.

I don't have that choice under the law...

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 15:54:22 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 09:14:17 2020.

The motorcycle club I belonged to for 25 years, The Blue Knights, an international club with chapters all over the world, made up of cops & retired cops, has a strict rule that one must wear a helmet to ride with them. In 1994 they had an international convention in Bangor Maine. Maine has (or had, I'm not sure about the present) no helmet law. A bunch of us rebels, me included, decided to ride bare headed. The officers of the club made a big stink threatening us to throw us out of the club. So what we did was organize our own rides, saying we were just going out by ourselves and anyone riding near us was just a coincidence!!

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:13:57 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 21 15:02:56 2020.

Exactly correct, Chuck. That's the whole point.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:20:58 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 15:54:22 2020.

I will never ride without a helmet, which proves my point. I do not need the nanny state to keep me safe. I can make my own informed decisions.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:27:33 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by pragmatist on Sat Nov 21 11:18:06 2020.

DUI laws do have a purpose because driving impaired is a danger. Your ability to drive is not impaired when you drive without a belt and may even be slightly be impaired by the shoulder belt - perhaps just distracted.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:28:30 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 15:44:05 2020.

You are correct about the multiple illegals

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 16:34:00 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:20:58 2020.

I refuse to wear bicycle helmets too. The Rabbi of my Shul has an organized bike ride to Eisenhower Park on weekday mornings after the shul's weekday morning minyan services and won't let me ride with them without a helmet.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:38:33 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 16:34:00 2020.

I don't know how I feel about bike helmets or skateboard helmets. I do know that in my shop, bump caps were banned in favor of hard hats. No hard hat, you couldn't cross the blue line.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 21 16:38:42 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 21 04:49:45 2020.

Would Princess Diana have survived had she worn a seat belt ?

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 21 16:40:03 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Nov 21 08:50:01 2020.

If I am in a cut-away or cruiser bus with seat belts, I use them, but no one else does.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 16:41:03 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Nov 21 04:49:45 2020.

I think the cliche was true when most people didn't wear seat belts, but now that most people wear seat belts, dead people are unbuckled all the time. Just not as many dead as there would be otherwise.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:43:53 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 21 16:38:42 2020.

There was an entire study about that based on her death and is available for you to read at your leisure

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 16:51:44 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 21 16:38:42 2020.

If she hadnít died, maybe the finale of Seinfeld wouldnít have sucked as much.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 16:57:09 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 16:51:44 2020.

I don't get the connection although I agree the finale sucked, and I wasn't even a Seinfeld fan, I just watched it because of all the hooplah surrounding it.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 17:25:10 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 16:57:09 2020.

Remember the Good Samaritan Law plot? They even referenced Princess Diana.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Nov 21 17:28:00 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:20:58 2020.

Exactly the point

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 21 17:38:35 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 21 16:57:09 2020.

I don't get the connection although I agree the finale sucked, and I wasn't even a Seinfeld fan, I just watched it because of all the hooplah surrounding it.

I was a Seinfield fan and the finale was painful to watch, it was bad.
I liked the transition music... Music


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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 21 17:43:55 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:38:33 2020.

On your turf - your rules (and probably more state and OSHA rules too). If your employees don't obey, off the floor they go. Fine.

On government roads - their roads, their rules. It's not all about you and what you need to be told.


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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 17:46:58 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:38:33 2020.

That makes sense to me. If some tasks need hard hats it's easier to just make a blanket policy than worry about people changing hats both literally and figuratively.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 21 18:30:24 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 21 16:38:33 2020.

I worked for a semi-tralier company for 23 years. We absolutely had to wear a hard hat and wear steel toes shoes in our shop.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 21 21:25:53 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 21 15:09:57 2020.

Curious, were seatbelts required in patrol cars when you were on the job? I ask in part because many years ago, when I lived in Southern California, it was optional for LAPD officers to wear seatbelts in the cars. Then there was an accident where 2 cars collided while responding Code 3. 4 officers involved (2-man cars), 3 killed. Only survivor was the only one wearing a seatbelt. From that point on, then-LAPD Chief Daryl Gates made seatbelt wearing mandatory for all officers.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Nov 21 22:22:16 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 21 21:25:53 2020.

Nope. I believe they only became mandatory under the NYPD rules under Ray Kelly (but, police and others are STILL exempt under NYS VTL)

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 00:49:29 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 21 16:41:03 2020.

A friend of mine lost his life last night in a horrific head on crash on a parkway. His seatbelt or not didnít give him any chance.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 22 00:54:56 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 00:49:29 2020.

Last night? Horrible loss and sorry for it. Sorry to sound flippant, but I guess airbags were no help either.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 00:59:00 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 22 00:54:56 2020.

Thank you but no I can imagine at parkway speed and judging from the footage I saw on the news it was utterly unsurvivable.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 22 01:06:21 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 00:49:29 2020.

Sorry to hear that. My condolences.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 01:11:52 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 22 01:06:21 2020.

For sure man
Thank you

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 22 06:05:01 2020, in response to New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 20 19:24:52 2020.

As of when? You'd think this would be widely publicized, but it hasn't been.

Any states other than New York have this as a law?

Is New Hampshire still the one state that doesn't require seat belt use at all?

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Nov 22 06:39:28 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 22 06:05:01 2020.

39 states have laws mandating rear seat belt usage.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 22 07:43:01 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 22 06:05:01 2020.

Yes. New Hampshire is the only state with no seatbelt law.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 22 07:45:38 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Nov 22 06:39:28 2020.

Thank you, for posting that. JayZeeBMT

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 22 07:47:55 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 00:49:29 2020.

Sorry for your loss.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Nov 22 07:56:41 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 00:49:29 2020.

My condolences

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Nov 22 08:02:41 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 20 23:09:17 2020.

I'd be okay with Buses, When I fly I always stay belted.

Moving above 5-10 mph just makes sense.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Nov 22 08:06:50 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 22 06:05:01 2020.

It's on the parkway electronic message boards.

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Nov 22 08:20:47 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Nov 22 08:02:41 2020.

You posted this 24 hrs ago. This is longer than any of Mitch's double post. Is Mitch's double post disease contageous?

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Nov 22 09:13:51 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 22 00:49:29 2020.

Sorry to hear. RIP

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 22 12:52:38 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 22 07:43:01 2020.

Good for them!

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 22 13:54:39 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 21 16:51:44 2020.

The "finale" of Seinfeld was great! Larry tied the loose ends together. The reason I have quotes is because Seinfeld had another "episode" on Curb Your Enthusiasm

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Nov 22 13:55:21 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 21 17:38:35 2020.

There was nothing wrong with the "finale"

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Re: New Law in Effect

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 22 14:41:54 2020, in response to Re: New Law in Effect, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 21 05:35:19 2020.

Spider-Pig is 100% correct, 3 shoulder belts in the back seat of my Altima.
Thanks!

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