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Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype' |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 17 15:42:30 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 17 14:58:11 2020. On the rare occasions I see "faggot" used, it fits well to meaning "male homosexual" and in a derogatory way. Just like it always has. But I may be missing the new nuances. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jun 17 15:43:37 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 17 15:25:17 2020. It is okay only because whoever is the current group of Quakers have only one item they work on. Being anti-Israel. The most important cause for many left-wing loons. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 17 16:15:35 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jun 17 15:43:37 2020. I didn't know the Quakers were anti-Israel. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Jun 17 16:24:56 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 14:33:23 2020. People can't have their twats in a twist over names, images, statues, etc..Give me a logical reason why we should leave these things in place. The way I see it, if you allow kids to grow up around imagery that glorifies racism, then as adults they'll (e.g.) be more likely to toss résumés just because they have names like Sherrod or Tanisha on them, and society has to deal with the ripple effects from such actions. It makes us worse off. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 16:30:27 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Jun 17 16:24:56 2020. I never thought that any type of logo promotes racism, from the Lucky Charms leprechaun, to the Cleveland Indian, to Aunt Jemima, to Chef Boyardee.The name thing is a bunch of malarkey. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jun 17 17:30:13 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 17 16:15:35 2020. I didn't even know they really existed. I think it was a Wall Street Journal article a few years ago. Looked like a bunch of hippies who only had one goal in life. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 17 17:43:44 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 16:30:27 2020. you forgot the Washington Redskins |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 17 18:13:06 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 16:30:27 2020. The real story behind "Aunt Jemima" is being exposed, and it's the complete opposite of what the "woke" people who stole the top spots at Pepsico/Quaker are asserting. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 17 18:39:31 2020, in response to Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jun 17 09:02:07 2020. Aunt Jemima smiles and is feminine.She is not a 200+ lb t2d single mother on depression meds and diet of fast foods and soft drinks. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jun 17 19:32:10 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 16:30:27 2020. Things white people say. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 17 20:06:51 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 17 14:53:32 2020. How come you never ask this of salaam when he uses that word? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 17 20:09:14 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 17 15:23:03 2020. That's wonderful, I only use real maple syrup anyway. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 17 20:13:22 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by AlM on Wed Jun 17 14:36:31 2020. Cut it out |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 17 20:14:08 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by AlM on Wed Jun 17 15:42:30 2020. Or the last 50 years nuances. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 20:14:37 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 17 17:43:44 2020. Well, of course I have a problem with that, what am I, a racist?!LOL!! |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 17 20:15:16 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 17 20:06:51 2020. In all fairness he did stand up to Salaam over the weekend.I even congratulated him for it. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 20:15:28 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Easy on Wed Jun 17 19:32:10 2020. No, things everybody with a lick of Common Sense and self-confidence says. Cartoons , logos, and mascots don't offend me |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jun 17 20:17:36 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 17 20:06:51 2020. Maybe because it would be a waste. Like beating a dead horse. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 17 20:24:23 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 20:15:28 2020. I saw two black people with "I Can't Breathe" shirts in Walmart today. Didn't bother me. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jun 17 20:29:40 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 20:15:28 2020. Pretty much white people are saying it and a handful of non-whites. It’s not that white people have superior intellect and self-confidence. They are much less impacted by such negative actions. It’s literally part of white privilege. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 17 21:10:34 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 17 20:24:23 2020. Did you try giving them CPR? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 21:19:47 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Easy on Wed Jun 17 20:29:40 2020. We were too busy growing up in the streets to even think about such things. you see, every single ethnicity was stereotyped, especially in the entertainment industry. The Irish were portrayed as one thing, the Italians as another, the blacks as another, the Mexicans as another, and so on and so forth |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 17 21:21:23 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 17 21:19:47 2020. speaking of the Irish I bet Air Lingus will be the last to restrict alcohol consumption while many others are. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 17 21:25:11 2020, in response to Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jun 17 09:02:07 2020. ![]() Aunt Jemima: It was Never About the Pancakes It is nearly impossible to have grown up in America and not be familiar with Aunt Jemima. However, when thinking of Aunt Jemima, people often associate a person to the name not the pancakes. Before Aunt Jemima came to be an American icon, an initial interest needed to be established. This is the story of the woman who became a food, that became a product, which became one of the most recognizable figures in history: Aunt Jemima. Aunt Jemima was first introduced as a character in a minstrel show – an American form of entertainment developed in the late 19th century. Each show consisted of comic skits, variety acts, dancing, and music. The shows were performed by white people in blackface for the purpose of playing the roles of black people. Minstrel shows portrayed black people as dimwitted, lazy, easily frightened, chronically idle, superstitious, happy-go-lucky buffoons. The inspiration for Aunt Jemima came specifically from the song “Old Aunt Jemima” written by a black performer named Billy Kersands in 1875. It was a staple of the minstrel circuit. The song was based on a song sung by slave hands. “Old Aunt Jemima” was performed by men in blackface. One of the men depicted Aunt Jemima – a Slave Mammy of the Plantation South. The lyrics tell of the promise to be set free yet remaining a slave forever. “My old missus promise me . . .When she died she-d set me free . . . She lived so long her head got bald . . . She swore she would not die at all . . .” ![]() While the lyrics depicted a reality, Aunt Jemima did not. There was a big difference between the stage Mammy and the actual female household slave. In fact, many argue that the Slave Mammy that became the stereotype never actually existed. Well-known New York blogger, Julian Abagond had this to say: “The Mammy pictured female household slaves as: fat, middle-aged, dark-skinned, undesirable . . . happy to serve whites, always smiling . . . The ugly truth is that they were: thin . . . young . . . light-skinned, a daughter of rape; desirable to white men and therefore raped, utterly powerless, extremely unhappy . . .” The Mammy was created by white Southerners to redeem the relationship between black women and white men within slave society. Slave owners sexually exploited and abused their female slaves. Catherine Clinton’s book The Plantation Mistress: Woman’s World in the Old South, notes that “Mammy was made to appear unattractive so no white man could want her over his white wife therefore ‘proving’ that white men did not find black women sexually desirable.” She was also proof that black women were happy as slaves. The Mammy helped put to rest any worries white people may have had around her, or women who looked like her. Aunt Jemima’s pancake mix began in 1889 when two speculators, Chris Rutt and Charles Underwood, bought a flour mill. Together they developed the idea of a self-rising flour that only needed water. Initially, it was called ‘Self-Rising Pancake Flour’. Rutt was inspired to rename the mix after attending a minstrel show, featuring “Aunt Jemima.” Rutt decided to use the name and the image of Aunt Jemima to promote his new pancake mix. However, Rutt and Underwood were unable to make the product a success and in 1890 they sold the business to the Davis Milling Company. The Davis Milling Company developed an advertising plan to use a real person to portray Aunt Jemima. The woman they found was Nancy Green. Nancy Green was born a slave in Kentucky in 1834. ![]() In 1863 the Emancipation Proclamation set slaves free and Green moved to Chicago after the Civil War. There she worked for the Walker family as a domestic servant. It was the Walkers who brought Green to the Davis Milling Company to audition for Aunt Jemima. She was 56 at the time. Nancy Green debuted as Aunt Jemima at the 1893 World’s Exposition in Chicago. The Davis Milling Company constructed the world’s largest flour barrel to grab people’s attention. Then they put Nancy Green on display (much like the flour) and gave her an act. She dressed as Aunt Jemima, sang songs, cooked pancakes, and told romanticized stories about the Old South – a happy place for blacks and whites alike, now accessible only by nostalgia, or by buying Aunt Jemima’s pancake recipe. Green was a huge success. Her booth attracted so many people that special policemen were assigned to keep the crowds moving. The Davis Milling Company received over 50,000 orders, and the fair officials awarded Green a medal and certificate for her showmanship. After the Expo, Green signed a lifetime contract with the company and traveled on promotional tours across the country. By 1910 more than 120 million Aunt Jemima breakfasts were being served annually, roughly equal to the population of the country. Green as Aunt Jemima was so successful that in 1914 the company renamed itself, ‘The Aunt Jemima Mills Company.’ The Davis Milling Company’s marketing plan was brilliant. They delivered their customers something they had always wanted but could never have: a ‘real life Mammy’. Along with the pancake mix, pamphlets were given out telling Aunt Jemima’s ‘life story’. According to the pamphlet, she had been the house slave of Colonel Higbee, whose plantation was known across the South for its delicious pancakes. After the war the Davis Milling Company, who had heard of the pancakes, paid Aunt Jemima in gold to share with them her secret recipe. That was the kind of feel-good story people wanted to hold onto. And with the pamphlet and Aunt Jemima’s famous pancake mix, they could. Aunt Jemima’s ‘secret’ pancake recipe was nothing more than wheat flour, corn flour, lime phosphate, and salt. But that wasn’t important. The Davis Milling Company weren’t selling pancakes; they were selling The Mammy fantasy. The only ingredient that really mattered was Aunt Jemima. The Aunt Jemima fable formed the background for decades of future advertising. Davis hired James Webb Young to create advertisements featuring Aunt Jemima. Young teamed up with N. C. Wyeth, a well-known painter and illustrator. Billboards were displayed with Nancy Green’s image and the caption, “I’se in town, honey.” The ads became popular in 1910 but it was in the 1920s and 1930s that the Aunt Jemima ads reached the height of their fame. The full-page color advertisements ran regularly in Ladies’ Home Journal, Good Housekeeping, and The Saturday Evening Post and told tales of the leisure and splendor of the Plantation South. Aunt Jemima Pancake Mix, a labor-saving product, was marketed with comparisons to a time and place when some American white women had the ultimate labor-saving device: a slave. A line from a 1927 ad read: “Make them with Aunt Jemima Pancake Flour, and your family will ask where you got your wonderful Southern Cook.” Or, just another way to say, “Your family will ask where you purchased a Slave Mammy such as this.” Slavery, and moreover, the fantasy of having slaves, was still the main attraction of the Aunt Jemima brand. ![]() No one portrayed Aunt Jemima for ten years following the death of Nancy Green in 1923. Then in 1933, the Quaker Oats Company (which had acquired the company in 1926) hired Anna Robinson to play Aunt Jemima at the Chicago World’s Fair. At 350 pounds, she was much heavier than Green and she was darker in complexion. The Quaker Oats Company loved her look and she was sent to New York to pose for pictures. An entire campaign was designed around Robinson as Aunt Jemima and her association with celebrities. She had personal appearances and was photographed at some of the most famous places making pancakes for Hollywood royalty, radio personalities, and Broadway stars. The advertisements derived from those photography sessions “ranked among the highest read of their time” Ironically, out of all the celebrities she posed with, none were more famous than Robinson herself. But Robinson wasn’t famous for being their peer; she was famous for being Aunt Jemima, their slave. Having celebrities pose with Robinson brought the Aunt Jemima brand more sales and success than ever before. People have always wanted what celebrities have. Be it a designer dress, a car, or the ultimate status symbol: a Mammy. In the first half of the 1900’s the Mammy was increasingly popular and was featured in a multitude of films, radio programs, and television shows. But no Mammy was more popular than Aunt Jemima. The 1934 movie Imitation of Life told the story of a Mammy, Aunt Delilah, who inherited a pancake recipe. She gave the valuable recipe to Miss Bea, her boss who successfully marketed the recipe (‘Imitation of Life’). The Aunt Jemima Radio Show ran from 1930 to 1942. This Aunt Jemima was portrayed by the white actress Tess Gardella. Gardella was a blackface performer best known for playing the character on both stage and screen. The show included the Jemima Chorus. Between songs Aunt Jemima would explain why her pancakes were so easy to make and offered a “Happy Thought for the Day.” The show was essentially a minstrel act for radio. The images of Aunt Jemima are part of the “Hateful Things Gallery”, a traveling exhibition that’s put together by the Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia in Big Rapids, Michigan. The museum, under Ferris State University, has a motto of “using objects of intolerance to teach tolerance and promote social justice.” Aunt Jemima’s images appear along side other pieces “that represent nearly 150 years of ani-Black, racist objects and images.” By the 1950s Aunt Jemima could be found in newspapers, magazines, radio, and television. There were dolls, bowls, and salt and pepper shakers made in her likeness. People had grown up with Aunt Jemima as a part of their lives. Despite its popularity, there has never been a time when the Aunt Jemima character has not been considered racist. According to Smith, Andrew F. in The Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America, the famous Mammy came under increasing scrutiny in the 1950s and 1960s during the Civil Rights Movement. Throughout the 1960s, the Quaker Oats Company lightened Aunt Jemima’s skin and made her look thinner in print images. In 1968, the company replaced her bandana with a headband, trimmed her waistline, and gave her a more youthful image. They removed the Southern Plantation settings and she no longer had a speaking role. If this was the Quaker Oats Company’s attempt to present Aunt Jemima as a less racist figure, they failed. By making her lighter, thinner, and younger, along with taking her off of the plantation and muting her voice, Aunt Jemima represented a house slave more than she ever had before. RELATED: The 5 Most (Racially) Divisive Presidents in History Local chapters of the NAACP began pressuring schools and fair organizers not to invite Aunt Jemima to appear. In 1967 the Quaker Oats Company canceled its television campaign and in 1970 they removed Aunt Jemima’s name from the Disneyland restaurant. In 1989, after activists reportedly threw Quaker Oats into Lake Michigan and threatened boycotts in protest of the minstrel-inspired image, the company modified Aunt Jemima’s likeness once again. The Quaker Oats Company claimed that the change was to “celebrate the 100 year anniversary of the icon.” Aunt Jemima’s headband was removed and replaced with dark curly hair. She was also given pearl earrings. The company said it was repositioning the brand icon as a “black, working, grandmother” – words that have been used since the days of the minstrel show to describe the Mammy. Despite the ‘makeover’ Aunt Jemima continued to be the black, obedient, female domestic whose only pleasure was to serve you. n 1993, the Quaker Oats Company debuted a series of television ads for the pancake mix featuring the singer Gladys Knight as a spokeswoman and using Aunt Jemima’s face only sparingly. They had the black, southern, Gladys Knight singing, smiling, and serving her ‘grandkids’. There was no need for the picture when they had the real thing. It was a page right out of the Davis Milling Company’s book. Today there is only one place to find Aunt Jemima advertising and that is on the Aunt Jemima Website. The website is designed to look like an Aunt Jemima pancake package. There’s a thick red border on the bottom and the top of the page. There is even the Aunt Jemima picture with her name, or, the brand’s name, right below it in the top left corner just like on the boxes. The website uses a variety of tools in an attempt to separate the product from its past. On the website if there is a caption, it’s made clear that it comes from the Aunt Jemima Company not Aunt Jemima. “Our products”, “Our Syrups”, “ . . . our corn meal mixes and quick grits.” Under the Our History tab there is a timeline. Like the rest of the website it is sparse. Both Nancy Green and Anna Robinson are included as portraying Aunt Jemima. It’s noted in 1989 Aunt Jemima got a ‘contemporary’ look. In the background there are snapshots of ads throughout the years featuring black families, white families, postcards, and pancakes. At the end of the timeline there’s the Today button. It reads: “Aunt Jemima Pancakes stand for warmth, nourishment and trust – qualities you’ll find in loving moms from diverse backgrounds who want the very best for their families.” After learning of the product’s history – that which is not given on the website – one can read between the red lettering. “Aunt Jemima Pancakes stand for warmth, nourishment and trust – qualities you’ll find in loving moms (a Mammy) from diverse backgrounds (slavery) who want the very best for their families (masters).” True to form, there is no mention of ingredients or taste. There’s no reference to food. Nourishment is listed as a quality you’ll find in the person – in this case the Slave Mammy – who you can count on to feed you, care for you, and work hard for you. You are her only priority and your ease and comfort is all she needs to be fulfilled. That is what this company is selling. It is what they have always sold. Despite what the company would like you to believe, the product has never been pancakes. Remember that next time you mix up and pour out some Aunt Jemima into your skillet for breakfast. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 17 21:33:29 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 17 20:15:16 2020. Okay good, I missed it. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Jun 17 22:22:15 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 17 20:09:14 2020. You can't use maple syrup because those psycho environmentalists will be at your door, blacklisting you because you are using a product from trees. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 17 22:38:02 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Jun 17 22:22:15 2020. Are they even going to be able to "blacklist" any more? They may need to call it something less offensive, like "shitlust". |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 17 22:38:15 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Jun 17 22:22:15 2020. Are they even going to be able to "blacklist" any more? They may need to call it something less offensive, like "shitlist". |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 17 23:35:13 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 17 13:49:28 2020. I hated reading that damn book (Merchant of Venice, HS freshman English). I was there 3 years, we read a Shakespeare work each year. Julius Caesar (Sophomore year) and Macbeth (junior year) weren't so bad. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jun 17 23:42:17 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jun 17 17:30:13 2020. He was a hippie?![]() |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jun 18 00:09:57 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jun 17 11:31:35 2020. when my father was a kid living in south jamaica he shined shoes at the foot of the stairs to the supthin boulevard jamaica avenue el station. he did popeye voices to elicit tips.and everybody can shove the stereotypes. pop was italian/sicilian and mom was irish/german/british. and south jamaica was italian and irish with black sections. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jun 18 00:13:11 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 17 11:28:29 2020. why do you bother reading what that clown writes? it's plainly obvious he's an idiot. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 18 01:23:56 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 17 13:49:28 2020. Yes, and Porsche is Ferdinand's last name. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jun 18 03:46:41 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 17 22:38:15 2020. Yeah, that's racist too! |
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Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype' |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 18 07:08:24 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 17 20:06:51 2020. I did. Stop trying to troll. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jun 18 07:51:04 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jun 17 12:25:33 2020. they sell all of us. chill, no biggie people. sheesh. |
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Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jun 18 07:53:18 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Jun 17 12:41:23 2020. lol, "blackman" hardware chain. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jun 18 08:03:47 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Jun 17 16:24:56 2020. seriously poor analysis.let's see...so, if a kid sees a statue of a confederate general in a park, his entire notions of race relations will be fixed in his brain forevermore, and, based on the stated logic here, those notions will automatically equate to that kid tossing away resumes submitted for his review merely because of the applicant's name. dude. that's not a stretch...that's a hubble image from five billion years ago. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jun 18 08:10:05 2020, in response to Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by Easy on Wed Jun 17 20:29:40 2020. some white people. the rest of us white folks, along with most of us black folks don't give a flying fuck about such stupid shit. we all know what up: this is a phony rich white folks game. |
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Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 18 08:23:04 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 17 13:12:13 2020. On the contrary, its you who doesn't get it. Do you think tearing down statues accomplishes anything? Do you think looting and pillaging neighborhoods will accomplish anything? Do you think that forcing Aunt Jemima to change their name gets you any closer to your goals whatever they may be. What do you think forcing TV shows or movies out of circulation does? Doing any of these things will not change the hearts or minds of anyone and will harden opinions. This is not how to win people over. |
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Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 18 08:31:15 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 18 08:23:04 2020. You were the weird kid that ate paste in elementary school, weren't you? |
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Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 18 08:35:32 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 18 08:31:15 2020. No, you got me confused with someone else. I was the kid who cut school and would be at your house getting my dick sucked by your mother. |
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Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 18 08:38:19 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 18 08:35:32 2020. You have strange, disturbing fantasies. Posting them here shows just how sick you really are. |
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Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 18 08:44:54 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 18 08:38:19 2020. Well, tell me something in all seriousness. You live in Philadelphia. There is a very prominent statue of William Penn. During his lifetime, he OWNED as many as 12 slaves. So tell me something my little social justice moron, why is that statue still looking down on the citizens of your town? Are you afraid of heights, little guy? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jun 18 08:48:57 2020, in response to Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 17 21:25:11 2020. stop frontin'. no way in hell you read all that. |
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Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 18 08:53:09 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 18 08:44:54 2020. There is an active movement to have both the William Penn AND Christopher Columbus statues removed and placed in museums, where they can be displayed with the proper historical context.Statues are meant to glorify those they portray, giving future generations an often incomplete image of who they really were. Their stories should be told in their entirety. For example, it's fine to remember Thomas Jefferson as a Founder, author of the Declaration of Independence, and our third President, but it's also important to include the fact that he raped one of his female slaves repeatedly, and she gave birth to his child. Jefferson's family refused to recognize any of his and Sally Hemings' descendants until fairly recently. That's the kind of historical whitewash that needs to be fixed. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 18 08:58:56 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 18 08:53:09 2020. Again you refuse to answer my question. Why have you not ripped down that statue of William Penn? Why ar r you waiting for legislation? If legislation and movement to a museum are appropriate, then why did you support tearing down statues in other cases my little social justice reprobate. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 18 09:03:36 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 18 08:53:09 2020. Sad. |
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Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype' |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 18 09:04:36 2020, in response to Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype', posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jun 17 21:25:11 2020. what have you been told about plagiarizing, here? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 18 09:09:20 2020, in response to Re: List of targets by the PC freaks (Re: Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker say, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jun 18 08:58:56 2020. When did I "support" tearing down statues in other places? I said repeatedly that public display of statues like that of Lee or Jefferson Davis should only be done in museums, where they can be interpreted appropriately.Why are you such a trollish guttersnipe? |
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