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Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 31 11:24:56 2020

Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

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WASHINGTON – President Trump on Monday criticized attempts by Democrats in Congress to expand voting access for the presidential election in the fall, saying increased voter turnout would keep Republicans from getting elected.

Trump said that Democrat-proposed voting reforms to the $2.2 trillion rescue package passed last week by Congress — which were largely cut from the deal — would have led to “levels of voting, that if you ever agreed to it you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.”

Democrats have pushed to mandate that states make plans to expand early voting and mail-in balloting for the fall election, in the event that the coronavirus pandemic makes in-person voting unsafe.

Trump appeared on Fox News’ morning program, “Fox & Friends,” on Monday for nearly an hour and at multiple points complained that congressional Democrats had pushed to include things he did not like in the rescue package.

Trump specifically criticized House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who put forward a plan for $4 billion in aid to states to help them prepare for a likely scenario: a presidential election in the fall amid an ongoing pandemic.

“The Democrats come to us with Pelosi and her super-radical left group. … They want all sorts of things: ‘We want to change the voting laws, we want to change this,’” Trump said.

Pelosi’s proposal, like a similar plan in the Senate proposed by Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., would have mandated that every state allow voters to cast no-excuse mail-in ballots. Currently 17 states require voters to provide a reason why they would like to vote by mail.

The Pelosi plan also would mandate each state be ready to mail ballots to every voter if there were a serious coronavirus outbreak in that region or state.

And it would have included two weeks of in-person early voting leading up to Election Day, to allow those who wanted to vote in person to do so without creating long lines or big crowds at polling places.

The coronavirus rescue package, which Trump signed into law on March 27, included $400 million to assist states with preparing for the fall election. One study estimated that it would cost at least $2 billion to prepare for a fall election in the midst of a pandemic.

Trump said on Fox News that the voting changes proposed by Democrats were “crazy.”

The president also said that if these voting reforms led to higher levels of overall turnout, it would disadvantage Republicans politically.

“They had things in there about election days and what you do and all sorts of clawbacks,” Trump said.

Trump’s comment provides ammunition to voting rights advocates who argue that Republicans have erected obstacles to voting in numerous states over the past two decades to fortify their political advantage against demographic trends that favor Democrats.



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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 31 12:22:51 2020, in response to Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 31 11:24:56 2020.

He said the quiet part loud and the loud part quiet.

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 31 12:36:40 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 31 12:22:51 2020.

OK

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 31 15:52:19 2020, in response to Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 31 11:24:56 2020.

Silence from the right.

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 31 15:58:55 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 31 15:52:19 2020.

God forbid everyone who is eligible might vote!




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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by WayneJay on Tue Mar 31 16:47:31 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 31 15:58:55 2020.

Agreed!!!

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 31 17:12:10 2020, in response to Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 31 11:24:56 2020.

Your point? Your own words?

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 31 22:39:48 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 31 17:12:10 2020.

RE READ THE ARTICLE

AND STOP WATCHING AND READING FOX

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 1 12:09:05 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 31 15:58:55 2020.

I don't mind eligible people voting.

I do mind people taking the ballots for others in their households (such as college-age kids who won't vote) and voting for them.

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 12:11:46 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 1 12:09:05 2020.

I do mind people taking the ballots for others in their households (such as college-age kids who won't vote) and voting for them.

That is a criminal offense, and involves forging their names and swearing stuff on their behalf.

Do you have any evidence that this is happening in more than a handful of cases?

Everything I've seen suggests that voter fraud is very limited and totally bipartisan in nature.



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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 1 15:20:20 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 12:11:46 2020.

Of course it's not happening much now, because for the majority of people you need to either show up at the polling station or make the decision in advance to vote by mail.

If everyone votes by mail that changes things. You don't need to forge a signature, just say "hey kid, sign this shit". As someone who didn't particularly care for politics for, say, the 2002 Governor race, I would have just been "whatever" if a parent handed me a filled in ballot waiting for a signature. I doubt I am an outlier or even in the minority of 18-29 year olds, as evidenced by the abysmal voter turn out of that group in the Dem primaries.

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 15:34:55 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 1 15:20:20 2020.

You don't need to forge a signature, just say "hey kid, sign this shit"

Most people are reluctant to commit a felony just to have a bigger influence in an election.



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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Apr 1 15:53:51 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 31 17:12:10 2020.

If the dead vote Democrat, there's a lot of new voters coming due to this so-called racist hoax.

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 1 18:59:23 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 15:34:55 2020.

Except its an unenforceable felony. Kid signed his approval of whatever was on that ballot. He did vote, technically. He just willingly left it up to someone else what that vote is.

It's funny because we have laws on "no ballot selfies" to prevent people from selling their votes. With this arrangement someone could just drop the ballot into the mail in view of whoever they sold their vote to.

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Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 1 19:09:59 2020, in response to Re: Trump says Democrats' push for expanded voting threatens Republicans, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Apr 1 18:59:23 2020.

This is all a fictional problem.

If you don't mind suborning perjury, you've been able to vote on behalf of your kid anyway, for the last 40+ years (that's as far back as I know, it's probably more like 100 years).

Hey, sign this (absentee ballot application).

2 weeks later: sign this (ballot affadavit).

Then fill out the ballot, seal the envelope, and mail it in.



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