|
|
| Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life (1692717) | |
 |
|
| Home > OTChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
Page 2 of 5 |
||
|
| (1692894) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 23 15:22:32 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 23 14:42:50 2020. BULLSHIT! |
|
|
| (1692895) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 23 15:23:08 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 23 14:54:36 2020. Excellent post. |
|
|
| (1692907) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jan 23 16:16:09 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 23 12:28:15 2020. Like I said, my nickhame for it is "The Dr. Goebbels Channel." |
|
|
| (1692909) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 16:21:07 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 23 14:54:36 2020. Yeah exactly. It's disgusting how she described pregnancy. Anyone that experienced the sound of that heartbeat during an ultrasound, or feeling it kick when I felt for it on my wife, and everything to do with it. Obviously, it's through my wife I have felt and experienced it, but I saw her connection too. No feeling in the world like it.Disgraceful how she categorizes it. |
|
|
| (1692922) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 23 16:38:02 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 16:21:07 2020. Even though I disagree with bingbong, I can understand how not everyone will feel the same way about a pregnancy. That being said, I don't think we, as a society, should base our laws on subjective feelings. I would never advocate someone should get an abortion unless it is necessary to save the life of the mother or continuing the pregnancy would cause her permanent physical harm or the fetus has some chromosomal abnormality that is incompatible with life. That being said, I do believe that this is one issue where a patchwork of state laws is not a good solution. Whether someone has access to an abortion should not be dependent on what state the person happens to live in. Also, it has effects on interstate commerce if people have to travel to have the procedure legally. Moreover, it is less safe to have it done in only a fraction of states because the facilities would be under more pressure to perform abortions faster to see more patients. Unlike some other procedures, an abortion is extremely time sensitive. Balancing the interests of both mother and fetus, before the fetus is viable outside of the mother the rights of the mother trump (no pun intended). |
|
|
| (1692923) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 23 16:38:02 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 16:21:07 2020. Even though I disagree with bingbong, I can understand how not everyone will feel the same way about a pregnancy. That being said, I don't think we, as a society, should base our laws on subjective feelings. I would never advocate someone should get an abortion unless it is necessary to save the life of the mother or continuing the pregnancy would cause her permanent physical harm or the fetus has some chromosomal abnormality that is incompatible with life. That being said, I do believe that this is one issue where a patchwork of state laws is not a good solution. Whether someone has access to an abortion should not be dependent on what state the person happens to live in. Also, it has effects on interstate commerce if people have to travel to have the procedure legally. Moreover, it is less safe to have it done in only a fraction of states because the facilities would be under more pressure to perform abortions faster to see more patients. Unlike some other procedures, an abortion is extremely time sensitive. Balancing the interests of both mother and fetus, before the fetus is viable outside of the mother the rights of the mother trump (no pun intended). |
|
|
| (1692925) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 16:42:40 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 23 16:38:02 2020. , I can understand how not everyone will feel the same way about a pregnancyTotally agree. And totally understood. However....to say that isn't a life when kicking at you, or hearing that heartbeat, it's not very subjective to say it is aluve. That said, I already said it should stay legal....but when that heartbeat starts, I think the line should be drawn you had time before that. |
|
|
| (1692927) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 16:47:40 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 16:21:07 2020. That's because you were looking forward to a child being born, and took any opportunity to enjoy the process. It's way different when a woman doesn't want the child and aborts the embryo long before anything kicks or there's a heartbeat. By the time those magical things happen, that's a baby. Humanity doesn't begin at the moment of birth. |
|
|
| (1692929) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 16:51:14 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 23 16:38:02 2020. I agree with you completely, except that I think the only major difference between us is that I have no moral qualms about abortion whatsoever if it happens early. |
|
|
| (1692930) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 23 16:51:43 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 16:42:40 2020. The problem with heartbeat is that you can have a beating heart but no meaningful brain activity. Also, it is not always noticeable that you are pregnant until after the heartbeat. |
|
|
| (1692932) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 16:55:16 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 16:42:40 2020. That said, I already said it should stay legal....but when that heartbeat starts, I think the line should be drawn you had time before that.That's the thing. That's an emotional view. A heartbeat doesn't make a "thing" (for lack of a better term) into a person. Many other animals have heartbeats. You might feel that heartbeat and feel a connection to it, but someone who doesn't want a baby won't. When that fetus develops a human brain, you won't be able to feel that, but it has something that truly separates us from the other animals. Then it would be homicide. |
|
|
| (1692936) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 17:19:49 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 16:47:40 2020. Isn't that just what I said in my other post? |
|
|
| (1692938) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 17:21:22 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 23 16:51:43 2020. But it's not like "where there's no hope for the brain" in end of life situations. |
|
|
| (1692939) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 17:22:30 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 16:55:16 2020. The problem is, it's not like cats and dogs. There are literally people that are more upset about a unborbd kitten or puppy dying. |
|
|
| (1692940) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 23 17:23:00 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 16:51:14 2020. And I already said I agree with that |
|
|
| (1692947) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 23 19:11:11 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 23 14:54:36 2020. Wrong. Normal people know that it's the decision of the woman involved as to how any pregnancy is approached. That's why there's a solid pro-choice majority in the developed world.Yours is not the only experience with this. Nor do you have the right to impose your attitude upon anyone else. You're the hater, as you don't think anyone could or should think differently than you, defining your hate. |
|
|
| (1692974) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 23 22:51:51 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 23 19:11:11 2020. Anyone who thinks different to you is a hater |
|
|
| (1692975) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 23 23:11:41 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 23 19:11:11 2020. I'm not the hater, here. Your enthusiasm for unfettered abortion comes from your envy of women who can bring life forth while you can't. |
|
|
| (1692976) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 23 23:18:15 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 23 14:41:00 2020. Neither will yours. That's the real point of your opinion now, isn't it? |
|
|
| (1692980) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 23 23:50:20 2020, in response to In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 09:28:35 2020. I almost ignored this thread because I know it's aimed at me because I simply point out crime stats and abortion.Guess what? Trump doesn't care about abortion. He is going to get votes. Abortion is here to stay. Only idiot liberals think the conservatives will end it. |
|
|
| (1692981) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 00:43:56 2020, in response to In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 23 09:28:35 2020. So much for him not caring about abortionYou're confused about society, Spider-Nazi. |
|
|
| (1692983) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 00:46:26 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 23 23:50:20 2020. because I simply point out crime stats and abortionNo you don't, #37. You point out lies by liberals Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner that have been debunked long ago. |
|
|
| (1692984) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 00:48:12 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 00:46:26 2020. Go drink your Irish Whiskey.But not too much. You'll lose a limb. |
|
|
| (1692985) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 01:08:47 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 00:48:12 2020. LOL, thanks for admitting I'm right, #37. Should we call you OTChat's Adam Schiff? |
|
|
| (1692989) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 01:31:58 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 23 23:11:41 2020. She's so bizarre she can't even enjoy music for music's sake. |
|
|
| (1692990) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 01:45:47 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 01:08:47 2020. you're OT's Margaret Louise Higgins. |
|
|
| (1692991) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 01:49:40 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 01:45:47 2020. Thanks for another w1n, #37. You get busted on the facts, you fall apart just like a liberal. |
|
|
| (1692992) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 01:54:56 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 01:49:40 2020. what facts?that you are Irish-Catholic and in your own words "cut back" on alcohol consumption due to t2d. That sucks. You can't enjoy an Irishman's favorite source of calories. You'd better take care of your t2d or you'll lose a leg or two and won't be able to date all those women you date. |
|
|
| (1692994) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 24 02:38:34 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 01:31:58 2020. She's seriously mis-wired. |
|
|
| (1692996) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 03:34:13 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 23 19:11:11 2020. You sound a lot likeSpider-Pig |
|
|
| (1692999) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jan 24 04:39:42 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 03:34:13 2020. Hey idiot, when was the last time Spider Pig started out a post with WRONG? |
|
|
| (1693001) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jan 24 04:41:55 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 23 19:11:11 2020. Look in the mirror with your last sentences. |
|
|
| (1693003) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 04:59:52 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jan 24 04:39:42 2020. Insults won't reduce your waist line.Please plan your diet better. |
|
|
| (1693005) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jan 24 05:17:51 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 04:59:52 2020. Make me a diet. |
|
|
| (1693007) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jan 24 06:13:15 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 23 10:18:34 2020. LOL that was in 2004, which was 16 years ago.At that time, President Trump probably still was a registered Democrat. What's next? Trump sneezes and your Lying Leftist Liberals friends explode on social media? |
|
|
| (1693012) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jan 24 07:48:35 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jan 24 06:13:15 2020. Irony: calling the left liars when the president has literally lied 10000 times over 3 years.Congrats wakefield, you win there. You are so smart having superior intellect over us leftists. Have that gold star. Enjoy your participation trophy there timmy. |
|
|
| (1693015) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Fri Jan 24 08:48:29 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 23 22:51:51 2020. Disrespect is hate. |
|
|
| (1693016) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 24 08:53:08 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Fri Jan 24 08:48:29 2020. Disagreement is not disrespect |
|
|
| (1693017) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jan 24 08:57:24 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 24 08:53:08 2020. Some people disagree simply to disrespect |
|
|
| (1693020) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 09:45:30 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 24 01:54:56 2020. LOL, and another w1n because you're pulling a salaam now, #37. Levitt and Dubner, just to remind you. Falling back on your anti-Irish bigotry won't pull you out of it. |
|
|
| (1693027) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 24 10:10:53 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jan 24 08:57:24 2020. LOL. Seriously mis-wired. |
|
|
| (1693028) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 24 10:12:48 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jan 24 07:48:35 2020. Please list the 1000 lies you claim with the dates so that can be verified. |
|
|
| (1693029) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Fri Jan 24 10:15:18 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jan 24 08:53:08 2020. It is here. What is comes down to is disregarding a citizens right to self-determination. It IS forcing a citizen to give birth, saddling them with an unwanted child and the inherent economic burden, for some twenty years. It is forcing a citizen to risk life and health.Thatsflat out wrong, unAmerican and purely cruel. It harms citizens and society. |
|
|
| (1693032) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 24 10:19:38 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 24 10:12:48 2020. LOL! |
|
|
| (1693033) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 24 10:20:43 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Fri Jan 24 10:15:18 2020. What about the fetus' right to self-determination?They can give the child up for adoption. There are long waiting lists for that, so an adopted out infant will almost certainly get a good home. |
|
|
| (1693042) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 24 10:35:04 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Fri Jan 24 10:15:18 2020. Still don't see disrespect in disagreement. No one here is seeking to prevent you from exercising your God given right to an abortion. |
|
|
| (1693051) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 24 10:46:40 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 24 10:19:38 2020. You have the links? |
|
|
| (1693089) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Fri Jan 24 12:43:17 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jan 24 10:35:04 2020. Oh yes you are. That’s the issue. Changing access to both abortion services (elective early term, with medical reason/clearance thereafter) and contraception (same bunch is seeking to eliminate access, see several cases heading towards SCOTUS) denies that choice.So they are forced-birth-res, as that's their plan. |
|
|
| (1693094) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jan 24 12:58:22 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 23 13:28:43 2020. The "women of America". Lol. He's only attending this to pander to the WOMEN of his base. Or of course, they aren't women to you. |
|
|
| (1693095) | |
Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Jan 24 12:59:03 2020, in response to Re: In Presidential First, Trump Will Attend Anti-Abortion March for Life, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 24 00:43:56 2020. Exactly. It's a rally of his base....the Women of his base. |
|
|
|
Page 2 of 5 |
||