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Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sat Jan 11 15:26:30 2020 Thanks to the LLLs being soooooo friendly to criminals, a serial bank robber was out without bail (thank you Cuomo, Johnson and DeBlasio) only to be the prime suspect in another heist just barely a day after getting his "get out of jail" card (and maybe a new cell phone plus Knicks tickets).Thank you Liberals for destroying the working and corporate class. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 15:35:17 2020, in response to Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sat Jan 11 15:26:30 2020. So, you're OK with people of means being able to buy their way out of jail, and effectively participate in their own defense, but not ordinary people, who had to sit in jail, convicted of nothing, because they couldn't make bail?N.B.: The number of suspects who allegedly reoffend after being released is negligible, when counted among the total number of arrests made statewide. Background sources at DCJS told one of my colleagues the recidivism rate of pretrial suspects has pretty much remained constant so far. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 11 15:45:57 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 15:35:17 2020. But look at the anecdotal evidence! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 11 15:53:18 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 15:35:17 2020. You have colleagues? LOL |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 11 15:53:21 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 15:35:17 2020. You have colleagues? LOL |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jan 11 15:53:22 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 15:35:17 2020. You have colleagues? LOL |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 16:02:22 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jan 11 15:45:57 2020. But...but...but it's only "anecdotal" if it doesn't support their narrative! |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Jan 12 13:53:21 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 15:35:17 2020. You are full of BS, including your "background sources".We are not talking about who can afford bail or not, that is what bail bondsmen are for. We are talking about KNOWN violent felons comitting felonies which threaten the safety of New Yorkers. You think passing a note to a teller, demanding money, is fine with your phony LLL narrative. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 12 13:58:50 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Jan 12 13:53:21 2020. Of course, you completely ignore the fact that if your bail is $50K, you might not have $5,000 just lying around for a bail bondsman if you're an ordinary person."Known" felons? If they're awaiting bail, they haven't been tried yet... |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jan 12 14:05:19 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jan 12 13:58:50 2020. A "known" felon can be someone who had been arrested and tried in the past on a felony charge. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Jan 12 14:45:35 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Dave on Sun Jan 12 14:05:19 2020. Certainly not one who was falsely arrested and accused of a crime. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jan 12 14:57:42 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Jan 12 14:45:35 2020. You're not a felon until convicted (or plead guilty) of a felony. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Jan 12 15:02:20 2020, in response to Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sat Jan 11 15:26:30 2020. It's just a bank. You folks can use one of those online wannabe banks with no branches or customer service after you lose all banks like SF loses all eateries(which will be done too thanks to bail reform). |
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"I can't believe they let me out!" |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:03:17 2020, in response to Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sat Jan 11 15:26:30 2020. This is the guy you're talking about, right? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Jan 12 16:22:17 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 15:35:17 2020. " The number of suspects who allegedly reoffend after being released is negligible"Tell that to the pepole in the hospital, and the banks leaving town. "people of means being able to buy their way out of jail, and effectively participate in their own defense, but not ordinary people, who had to sit in jail, convicted of nothing, because they couldn't make bail" NYCity, the place where a million dollars a year is called "middle class"? bullshit |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Jan 13 17:24:57 2020, in response to "I can't believe they let me out!", posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:03:17 2020. Yes, correct. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 13 18:12:40 2020, in response to Re: ''I can't believe they let me out!'', posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Jan 13 17:24:57 2020. This sure is a travesty of justice. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 13 18:53:34 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 15:35:17 2020. It's called bail. Either you post it, or you don't. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 13 18:57:53 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 13 18:53:34 2020. So an innocent person who is poor should have their freedom ransomed? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 13 19:00:16 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 13 18:57:53 2020. In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 13 19:05:34 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by AlM on Mon Jan 13 19:00:16 2020. Let's just get rid of the bail system, and keep everyone in prison until after the trial. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 13 19:14:34 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 13 19:05:34 2020. No. Either ROR, supervised release, or remand. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Jan 13 19:18:21 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 13 18:57:53 2020. Shit happens. How do you know they're innocent until there's a trial or the police find they arrested the wrong person? |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Jan 13 19:33:45 2020, in response to Re: ''I can't believe they let me out!'', posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 13 18:12:40 2020. For one who actually WANTS to be in prison, it's a travesty. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Jan 13 19:36:35 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 13 18:57:53 2020. There is the Innocece Project which should be made available to those who are truly falsely accused of a crime and prosecutors should work with them in finding out the truth so they can be exonerated. That has nothing to do with setting the majority of thugs back on the streets to terrorize more law abiding citizens. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 13 19:49:41 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Dave on Mon Jan 13 19:18:21 2020. You don’t know they’re guilty, so presumed innocent. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 13 19:50:45 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Jan 13 19:36:35 2020. That applies to people who were wrongly convicted. It has nothing whatsoever to do with pretrial procedure. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 13 19:54:37 2020, in response to Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sat Jan 11 15:26:30 2020. Another reason to vote the Democrat's out! This law was brilliant! They are destroying themselves |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 13 19:58:28 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Dave on Mon Jan 13 19:18:21 2020. How do you know they're innocent until there's a trial or the police find they arrested the wrong person?Our founding fathers said that the fact that you don't know is not an excuse for just keeping them locked up until trial. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jan 13 22:22:50 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 13 19:54:37 2020. It really is fantastic that, in an election year where the Democrats on the Federal level need every vote they can get, in two states they push through legislation that "wakes up the sheeple" (dormant Republicans and Independents) who otherwise might have sat things out. Between this and Virginia, I see potential for ordinarily blue congressional seats to flip red. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 01:51:49 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jan 13 22:22:50 2020. I have NEVER felt like this before. All joking aside in the past, once I have seen what uncontrolled and put of control full power Democrats have done in NY, there is no way I can vote for any of them.....and always did depending on the candidate, local position, etc.Between that and the antics nationally, I feel so steamrolled now, that I just can't. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 14 06:19:10 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 01:51:49 2020. I will still look at the platform of each candidate, but I have definitely found myself increasingly turned off by present Democrats. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 14 09:49:09 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 11 15:35:17 2020. Let's see how many of the perps released without bail return on their court date. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 10:09:16 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 14 09:49:09 2020. Let's see how many of the perps released without bail would have languished in jail like Kalief Browder. Or let's not. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 14 10:29:18 2020, in response to "I can't believe they let me out!", posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jan 12 16:03:17 2020. So this is like when Obama did his catch and release for a promise that people would show up to their court dates, and nearly zero people obeyed and went to court?This works how? I can believe I have never gotten an answer to this question by the subchat posse. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:31:55 2020, in response to Re: ''I can't believe they let me out!'', posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 14 10:29:18 2020. You’ll never get an answer either.The only answer is what this monster said, in utter glee. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:38:07 2020, in response to Re: ''I can't believe they let me out!'', posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Jan 13 19:33:45 2020. Wants to be? Nah. He would have voluntarily stayed in if he did. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jan 14 10:42:12 2020, in response to Re: “I can’t believe they let me out!”, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:38:07 2020. I don't think that's how it works. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:48:54 2020, in response to Re: “I can’t believe they let me out!”, posted by Easy on Tue Jan 14 10:42:12 2020. If one wants to stay in, one will stay in. He could have punched the judge instead of committing more crimes on the outside. (Right?) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:52:56 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 10:09:16 2020. Red herring, civilization-hater and liar. Browder was denied bail because he was on probation for something else. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 10:53:05 2020, in response to Re: “I can’t believe they let me out!”, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:48:54 2020. This is some ignorant bullshit. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:53:10 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 10:09:16 2020. Red herring, civilization-hater and liar. Browder was denied bail because he was on probation for something else. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 14 10:54:48 2020, in response to Re: “I can’t believe they let me out!”, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:31:55 2020. It seems like the type of policy you hear but don't believe it applies to you until it happens.I agree with his exclamation. They're going to have to double the size of I-95 to accomdate all the U-hauls that Spaz said people rent for vacations, not for moving. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 10:56:25 2020, in response to Re: “I can’t believe they let me out!”, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:53:10 2020. How does that make a difference? Either way he was remanded for a period way too long and under conditions way too severe for the crime he was charged with.You just hate people and believe that order derives from the authority of the state, and from a god. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 14 10:57:57 2020, in response to Re: “I can’t believe they let me out!”, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 10:53:10 2020. fuck-face, i mean spider pig should just remain #cancelled. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 14 10:59:29 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jan 14 01:51:49 2020. You are taking it all wrong. The democrats are pandering to their base.Criminals and racists. If...IF...you're not one of those two categories, you shouldn't feel too betrayed, you were never in their target market. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 11:06:00 2020, in response to Re: “I can’t believe they let me out!”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 14 10:57:57 2020. People like that will not be mugged by reality when it finally hits them; it’ll be a curb stomp. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 14 11:24:23 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 10:56:25 2020. Browder was held for 961 days. That's longer than the second plea-bargain he was offered in exchange for a guilty plea, which was 2.5 years. Browder never pled guilty to anything, and he was finally released on an ACD.The state's handling of the entire case was just obscene. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 14 11:27:29 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 10:09:16 2020. What does that have to do with the intent of the law? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 14 11:30:15 2020, in response to Re: Serial bank robber freed thanks to NYS bail reform, strikes another bank., posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 14 11:27:29 2020. The intent of the law was to increase the number of people released instead of jailed while awaiting trial. |
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