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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Dan on Wed Nov 6 09:20:31 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 5 22:06:55 2019.

I voted NO on 1, 2, 3, YES on 4, 5.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Dan on Wed Nov 6 09:22:25 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 6 09:09:41 2019.

The cops know the deck is stacked against them now.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 6 09:23:53 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 6 09:10:21 2019.

Word on what street, Western Tpke?

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 6 09:39:35 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 6 09:23:53 2019.

In Lexington for starters.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 6 09:41:01 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 6 09:11:29 2019.

Facts are facts.

Denial is not exclusively a river.

Thta too, is a fact.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 10:45:13 2019, in response to Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 5 21:41:29 2019.

Is that one of them states you refuse to set foot in?

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 11:17:08 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 5 23:57:14 2019.

Some libertarians would have voted D, but I agree it would have broken more for T.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 11:18:01 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 6 01:27:13 2019.

I’ve already responded elsewhere in the thread and also see Henry’s response.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 11:20:12 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Dan on Wed Nov 6 09:20:31 2019.

Why did you vote no on 1? Why are right wingers opposed to ranked choice? Is it because you know that you can’t win majorities?

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 11:21:04 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 6 08:08:15 2019.

Exactly. That’s why I posted it. Not every response to a post has to respond directly to its argument.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 11:22:06 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 06:51:13 2019.

Because a lot of people vote for party instead of person. I do that on the legislative level as I’ve already posted.

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 11:25:05 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 06:52:34 2019.

The voters in Kentucky actually want Medicaid expansion and restoring voting rights for felons.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 6 12:32:25 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 6 04:52:23 2019.

I don't live on Kentucky. I'll deal with it.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 12:36:47 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Nov 5 22:33:52 2019.

He's an idiot.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 12:52:33 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 6 08:46:31 2019.

Lol!!! Not really. A maligned and misanthrope disliked governor, that attacked all sorts of groups, was 15 points behind in the polls, against a well spoken, son of a former governor, is only 4500-5000 votes behind?
Seems more like the opposite of your assumption

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 12:53:39 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 6 09:11:29 2019.

Yes, but it "comforts" them

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 12:55:09 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 6 09:10:21 2019.

Apparently. The misanthropic incumbent was 15 points behind, and wound up loosing by only 4500 votes.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 13:11:25 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 10:45:13 2019.

Kentucky couldn't help that an after asshole was seeking reelection for governor. I know how it goes....my had one in NY State, and an asshole incumbent in NYC too that was running years back. Except, Kentucky seems smarter....their asshole only lost by 4600 votes, while NYers reelected both.....

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 13:13:36 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 11:17:08 2019.

Yes. And while you understand this, the JayZee types will let their guard down for 2020 thinking this 8s a big occorance

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 13:15:02 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 11:22:06 2019.

I never did....till I see what NY Democrats have done. Never again till that changes. They are horrible

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 13:17:36 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 11:25:05 2019.

Rights for felons? Lol.
If Kentucky Democrats do the same mistake as what NY ones did, lmao at your post. In NY, what saves them is that it's a clueless, sheltered, leftist, coastal elites city, that supports such ridiculous legislation

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 13:59:43 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 12:55:09 2019.

What poll was he 15 points behind in? Sounds like cherry picking.

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 14:03:49 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 13:17:36 2019.

They’ve served their sentence, they should have the right to vote. The only reason you oppose this is that most of them vote Democrat. Republicans are less likely to win the more people are allowed to vote. They know this.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 6 14:07:33 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 13:59:43 2019.

What poll was he 15 points behind in? Sounds like cherry picking.

Targoz Market Research had Beshear ahead by 19 points in mid-October. A more recent Trafalgar Group poll had Bevin ahead by 5 points.

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 6 14:08:32 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 13:17:36 2019.

Once a person has finished serving their prison sentence, they are considered "restored to society". That should include the right to vote.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 14:13:33 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 6 14:07:33 2019.

OK. Point taken.

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Nov 6 14:39:25 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 6 14:08:32 2019.

How about the right to own a handgun?

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 14:53:05 2019, in response to Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 05:48:40 2019.

"Kentucky’s Libertarian Party appears to be relishing its role as a potential spoiler in the state’s gubernatorial contest – as incumbent Republican Gov. Matt Bevin trails the state's Democratic attorney general in the results of the closely watched contest Tuesday.

"We are always happy to split the vote in a way that causes delicious tears. Tonight there are plenty of delicious tears from Bevin supporters," the party said in a Facebook post Tuesday night."

Why would anyone vote libertarian if that's their purpose?

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 6 14:53:15 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by mtk52983 on Wed Nov 6 14:39:25 2019.

If the person was convicted of a non-violent crime such as embezzlement, I think that it should be an option.

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 14:55:04 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 14:03:49 2019.

They vote nazi. Get your act together.

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 14:55:29 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 14:53:05 2019.

Correction, Pig-spider and jayzee will still think the Demonazi won on their merits, and not for any other absurd reason.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 6 15:14:07 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Dan on Wed Nov 6 09:22:25 2019.

It's been like that since the late 60s

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 15:19:17 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 14:53:05 2019.

Why would you oppose ranked choice voting?

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 15:19:57 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 14:55:29 2019.

I don’t care. Support ranked choice or suck it.

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 15:39:03 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 14:53:05 2019.

Looks like that's always been the purpose of the Losertarians.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 15:42:55 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 6 14:07:33 2019.

Lol! Mid October was two weeks ago!!

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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 16:01:22 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 13:11:25 2019.

Kentucky couldn't help that an after asshole was seeking reelection for governor

You sure love the fake news, don't you.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 16:15:42 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 15:42:55 2019.

And? He also gives another, more recent poll!

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Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 19:35:18 2019, in response to Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 5 21:41:29 2019.

WLKY, CBS 32, Louisville

Bevin requests recanvass of vote totals asserting there were 'irregularities'

WLKY Digital Team

Republican Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin’s campaign requested a recanvass of vote totals that show him losing his reelection bid.

His campaign sent a statement Wednesday afternoon saying it is doing so due to the close nature of the gubernatorial race and multiple reports of voting irregularities.

“The people of Kentucky deserve a fair and honest election. With reports of irregularities, we are exercising the right to ensure that every lawful vote was counted,” Bevin said in a news release.

In a 5 p.m. news conference on Wednesday, Bevin expanded on the irregularities.

He said thousands of absentee ballots were wrongly counted, people were turned away from polling sites and ballots were placed into boxes instead of ballot machines in Jefferson County. Bevin said his team is corroborating the allegations.

WLKY reached out to the Jefferson County Board of Elections and officials said they are confident that the county’s results are 100% accurate.

Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes said she will forward the request to the State Board of Elections.

She said unofficial vote totals show Bevin with a 5,189-vote deficit to Democrat Andy Beshear. Click here to see vote totals for Kentucky/Indiana races.

County boards of elections will convene at 9 a.m. on Thursday, Nov. 14, to conduct the recanvass. As soon as it is complete, the county boards of elections will file their recanvass reports with the secretary of state.

Grimes said her office should have results within a day.

She called the race Tuesday night for Beshear, who declared victory.

He made a formal announcement about his transition into the governor’s office on Wednesday.

Beshear’s campaign sent the following statement in response to Bevin's recanvass request:
“Last night, the people of Kentucky elected Andy Beshear as their next governor. Today, Governor-Elect Beshear is already working on his transition so that he can best serve the people of Kentucky on day one. We hope that Matt Bevin honors the results of the recanvass, which will show he received fewer votes than Andy Beshear. As has been reported, a ‘recanvassing has never changed the result of a Kentucky election.’”
On Wednesday, Bevin called Grimes’ decision to call the election so quickly “a little suspect.”

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Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 6 19:57:34 2019, in response to Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 19:35:18 2019.

No election in the state of Kentucky has had its outcome changed by a recanvass in at least the past century.

This is exactly what Trump will do next year if he loses a close election--call the results into question. It's what today's Republicans do.

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Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 6 20:01:29 2019, in response to Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 6 19:57:34 2019.

Then we all must ensure next year's elections are not the least bit close.

I wonder who is financing this recanvass......the state charges for this and in Kentucky, the suing candidate (Bevin) pays.

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:21:51 2019, in response to Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 16:15:42 2019.

Yes, in two weeks time he only lost by 4500. And as maligned and unpopular this governor is

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Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:23:15 2019, in response to Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 6 20:01:29 2019.

"we all". Lmao

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Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”

Posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 6 20:43:37 2019, in response to Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:23:15 2019.

Excluding you. I mean real Americans. Those that want to make America American again.

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Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:50:14 2019, in response to Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”, posted by bingbong on Wed Nov 6 20:43:37 2019.

Ah, anyone who disagrees with you is not an American. I see.

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Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 20:51:04 2019, in response to Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:50:14 2019.

Republicans have been saying that for years. They have paved the way for Trump with that.

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Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 21:26:12 2019, in response to Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 20:51:04 2019.

Stop. It's the way of the left

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Re: Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 6 21:26:29 2019, in response to Beshear (D) beats Bevin (T) for Kentucky Governor, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 5 21:41:29 2019.

I resent that remark!

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Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 22:00:44 2019, in response to Re: Bevin calls for recanvass of vote totals, citing “irregularities”, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 21:26:12 2019.

You’re so full of it. Do you not remember Republicans taking about “Real Americans?”

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Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor)

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Nov 6 22:09:08 2019, in response to Re: Still too close to call (Beshear beats Bevin for Kentucky Governor), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 14:03:49 2019.

Following that logic, they should have restored the right to own firearms, and various offender registries w/associated residency restrictions would need to be abolished.

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