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Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:17:25 2019

Ironically just finding this out on the 46th anniversary of the Yom Kippur war.

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 9 19:25:18 2019, in response to Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:17:25 2019.

You didn't hear that Nasser was a national socialist?

All of the Arab movements against the state of Israel are based on national socialism.

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:32:12 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 9 19:25:18 2019.

I knew about it. I just never knew he actually wore a swastika. That's bad enough. But the fact that Menachem Begin and Moshe Dayan took pictures with him wearing it disgusts me.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Oct 9 19:37:46 2019, in response to Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:17:25 2019.

Sadat was also an Axis agent during WWII, supplying intelligence to the Germans, Rommel's army in particular.

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:39:22 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Oct 9 19:37:46 2019.

So are you also appalled by the swastika tie?

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Oct 9 19:43:17 2019, in response to Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:17:25 2019.

HE WAS KILLED REMEMBER ?

SHOT

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:44:09 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Oct 9 19:43:17 2019.

No kidding.

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Oct 9 19:46:22 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:39:22 2019.

Yup.

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:47:12 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Oct 9 19:46:22 2019.

I'm pleasantly surprised.

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 9 20:17:02 2019, in response to Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:17:25 2019.



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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 9 20:19:37 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 9 20:17:02 2019.

Sickening.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Oct 9 21:34:09 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:44:09 2019.

YEP

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 9 21:54:59 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Oct 9 21:34:09 2019.

Smh

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Oct 9 22:09:12 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Oct 9 21:54:59 2019.

he was no good to islam either

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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 10 02:17:20 2019, in response to Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:17:25 2019.

Bump

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by SLRT on Thu Oct 10 06:01:39 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 9 20:17:02 2019.

Ultimate wardrobe malfunction.

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 09:23:39 2019, in response to Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:17:25 2019.

That's totally enough for him to be in the top 10 for the Dem primary. Dead or alive.

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 11:24:02 2019, in response to Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:17:25 2019.

bump

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 10 11:48:18 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 11:24:02 2019.

Whether this was his personal assistant's stupid mistake or a deliberate action is now unknowable.



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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 12:20:42 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 9 19:32:12 2019.

No comment.

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 12:23:04 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 10 11:48:18 2019.

If you really think it wasn't deliberate, then I will sell you the Williamsburg Bridge

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 12:24:38 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 12:20:42 2019.

Why? You're not appalled?

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 13:31:30 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 12:24:38 2019.

Oh, there's a lot that goes on in "Jewish" meetings that are appalling. I want to say something about the two leaders you mentioned, but it's not proper.

My only solution is to say No Comment, so that I at least said something. Even though the inference is still just as bad as saying it.

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 13:35:47 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 13:31:30 2019.

Go right ahead. Say what's on your mind.

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 14:07:20 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 13:35:47 2019.

Right after The Holiday?

I'll point out one thing. I have a book where the gentleman tells a story of how he was appalled that church leaders visited Israel I believe decades ago. They wanted to have meetings on the Saturday so as not to interfere with their Sunday plans. They got it!

I just saw a magazine article that was published over the summer. They wanted to do the same thing in New York with the WZO or some other group, I cannot remember. One staffer said no. This was a big deal and I think he was seen as a radical and had to move on. This meeting was to open the archives to learn about activities during the Nazi's.

This goes on with all of these Jewish secularists.

Just because you don't have peyos and don't live in a succah doesn't mean you should bend over backwards to nullify yourself.

Have a spine, take the one day off and pass on the sausages.



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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 14:41:04 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 12:23:04 2019.

Normally I can't stand it when people play The Magic Eye game and insist they see swastika's everywhere, meanwhile ignoring the PLO's headscarf in mainstream media which is the modern day swastika.
But this tie might be the first thing where I can't not see the pattern. It's so bizarre to be random.

I think you're right on this one.

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Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 14:59:20 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 14:41:04 2019.

Thank you. And I agree with you on the headscarf.

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 10 15:21:04 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 14:07:20 2019.

Having a meeting to talk is not a violation of any of the 39 prohibited activities. They wouldn’t be able to take notes or transcribe the meeting.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 15:36:31 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 10 15:21:04 2019.

In the Magazine Article, where now I remember the guy was on the reparations board, someone pointed out to him that they can just walk to the meeting. I don't remember if they mentioned notes or whatever.

I think the issue is still that they are still working. Second, if they are religious, then they have all of that going on, plus family time. Ivanka Trump wrote an article about how much she loves having the guaranteed family time per week. Which is great, because it leads me back to the book in the other example I posted. He has another chapter where he complains about the person who makes up excuses for not hanging out with colleges on Fridays after work by calling it "family time" instead of calling it by name.

There's probably a whole series of conversations here depending on whatever hypothetical you want to use. But really, if you are meeting someone and are representing Jews in some capacity, at least stick to the culture. The church knows that Saturday is the special day; don't give them the satisfaction of the win. The Arab's know what a swastika is. Don't give them a win either. Both of them will fight you tooth and nail over something even symbolically smaller. We're not exactly talking about going to one of those seminars for financial advice for the free dinner here or hanging with colleges instead of going to "family time".

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 10 15:44:49 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 15:36:31 2019.

I think the issue is still that they are still working.

"Work" is not what is prohibited. The Hebrew word for what is prohibited is "Melachah." The Hebrew word for work labor is "Avodah." As the former lacks a corresponding English word, it is often translated as work.

Second, if they are religious, then they have all of that going on, plus family time

There is a lot less going on than on another day given the prohibitions.

Despite that, I agree with your post, especially as the church specifically avoided Sunday because it conflicted with their religion, why would they think that Saturday would not conflict with the hosts' religion. Fucking hypocrites.

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 10 15:46:03 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 10 15:21:04 2019.

That's all you have to say on the subject?

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 16:03:51 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 10 15:44:49 2019.

" especially as the church specifically avoided Sunday because it conflicted with their religion, why would they think that Saturday would not conflict with the hosts' religion. Fucking hypocrites."

Bingo.

Second, if they are religious, then they have all of that going on, plus family time

There is a lot less going on than on another day given the prohibitions.


I mean, if you're religious, or you go somewhere that's religious even if you're not and they're welcoming, it ends up being like all day. The morning will stretch until like 2. And anything else depends upon when sunset is.
And some people joke that it's a mitzvah to nap afterwards. Though it's probably true.

"Work" is not what is prohibited.

Could depend on how stringent you are? I **KNOW** someone else could answer that. All I know is work is work, if you're being paid to do it. The subject isn't up my alley, but I have three places I could hopefully find that addresses this issue, but I can't look until later so I'll have to come back to it.
It's the day He ceases from creation, so if you want to get into technicalities, it stems from creating right there.

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 10 17:41:37 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat Wore A swastika, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 14:41:04 2019.

He is right. The history of national socialism among "pan-Arabists" whether in Egypt or elsewhere cannot be covered up.

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Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 10 17:51:14 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 10 17:41:37 2019.

Yeah, not to mention all the nazi officiers that parachutted in at the end of the war to help them out in their futures.

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"work" Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Oct 11 15:04:33 2019, in response to Re: Anwar Sadat wore a swastika, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 10 15:44:49 2019.

This is "interesting" because you bring up the 39 definitions of working, which has 39 sub-rules, etc. But none of them actually say "work". And I'm sure no one wants an essay nor am I qualified.

"From finding your desires and speaking of matters" Yeshaya 58:13; and Chazal elucidated, "Your desires are forbidden, the desires of the heaven are permitted" (Shabbat 113b).
From here, it says the prohibition of all business is derived, including things that could lead to business.
It doesn't say here, but I would make a guess that this is where "to guard" the Shabbat comes in. (which, now I'm seeing on another page).

I was going to look for two lines I saw earlier about a "day of rest", but I think this will be better.
"Remember the Shabbat and keep it holy" Shmot 20:8
Holy being Kodosh or separate. Lot of the rules deal with separating the mundane-ness of the weekday and not letting it into Saturdays at all.
That's from a book where I evidently do 400 pages of things wrong. But I do hope to find out where the link is between the 39 and the separation and rest on Sunday.


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