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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 17:05:08 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 15:18:51 2019. Good for you! You are a true survivor. Very few went thru what you went thru & made it as far as you did. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 17:24:07 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 14:58:37 2019. The only luck I see is the "luck" of submitting an application when they were (CTA) hiring. Other than that, getting the job, KEEPING the job, earning the respect of your co-workers and supervision, comes from a desire to better your (and family's)quality of life & an inbred sense or responsibility. After all that, the reward is a good pension & deceint medical care. That said, luck has very little, if anything to do with it. And in 2019, that goes for workers of any color or gender. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 17:33:00 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 17:05:08 2019. YES SIRTHE STRUGGLE CONTINUES EVEN TODAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 17:34:46 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 17:24:07 2019. I THINK IF YOU ARE LUCKY YOU GET A SHOT AT ITMAYBE YOU WIN NOT SAYING NOT TO TRY |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 21 18:06:40 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 17:24:07 2019. Very good post. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Sep 21 18:22:01 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 17:24:07 2019. Also not many lucrative jobs like that without a college degree so that is some luck as well. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 21 18:44:57 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 12:11:33 2019. Exactly. Unequal treatment and unequal pay still rule the workday. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 19:11:42 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 21 18:06:40 2019. NOPENOT AT ALL |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 19:12:02 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Sep 21 18:22:01 2019. A LOT OF LUCK |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 21 19:29:36 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 19:11:42 2019. figures |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 21 19:40:51 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 17:24:07 2019. Back when I was considering a job, for summers at least, they didn't accept women into positions that paid well. Plenty of us never got a shot at a job like that. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 21 19:45:05 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 21 15:44:21 2019. LOL! Yeah, Daddy's Will! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 19:58:10 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 21 19:29:36 2019. WHAT ? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 19:58:39 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 21 19:40:51 2019. DAVE WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 21 20:22:36 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 21 15:44:21 2019. Triumph of the Will. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 21:03:45 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 19:11:42 2019. Where am I wrong?? |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 21:17:37 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 21:03:45 2019. ON THE BEING LUCKY THING |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 21:26:30 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Sep 21 18:22:01 2019. Those jobs fortunately out there for those who didn't spend thousands on a college education & spend a third of their working life income paying those loans off. Guys in the trades like welders, plumbers, carpenters etc are pulling down 6 figure salaries without that ball & chain of a student loan around their necks. Luck factors into the equation when it comes to getting a job site long term near home, and getting your union card early.And its all equal opportunity, black, white, yellow, green, male, female, tranny, all have the opportunity to make the big bucks. All the foreman cares about is you showing up sober & staying sober while on the clock , getting the job done...and not getting hurt. Thats the basic bottom line. Luck is a player here, as with everything in life, but not as a deal maker or deal breaker. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 21:50:01 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 21:17:37 2019. Would you say that Lester Holt, as an African American, was "lucky" (as in right place, right time) to get the NBC nightly news gig after lilly white Brian Williams ruined his career by being stupid?How was Holt, being Black, held back from career advancement? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 21 21:51:07 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 21:50:01 2019. Yes, that’s lucky. Holt was the heir apparent, but the luck part was Williams’ downfall. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 21:55:57 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Sep 21 18:22:01 2019. IAWTP |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 21:58:12 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 21 21:50:01 2019. ONE OR TWO HERE AND MAYBE THERE MAKES ITTHE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY ARE NOT SO LUCKY ALWAYS A FEW TOKENS GET IN SOMETIMES |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 21:58:51 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 21 21:51:07 2019. IAWTP |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 21:59:24 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 21 21:51:07 2019. That's not luck. It was lots of hard work to rise to weekend anchor. He was in the right place at the right time when Williams screwed the pooch. Holt worked hard to make what you call "luck." |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 22:02:36 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 21:59:24 2019. IDWTPIN WHITE AMERI-KKK-A IT IS ALWAYS LUCK EVEN AFTER YOU WORK HARD TO GET THERE |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:03:15 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Sep 21 18:22:01 2019. Luck implies random chance. Working hard; showing up on time and not leaving early; offering to go the extra yard when needed...that's how you get yourself noticed so when a position opens up, you've increased the odds of being picked. That's not random chance; that's an example of making your own "luck." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 21 22:03:25 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 21:59:24 2019. “Right place at the right time" is the very definition of luck. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 21 22:04:28 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 15:18:51 2019. Im sorry you had those experiences. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:04:51 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 21 19:40:51 2019. What summer job(s) did you apply for that paid a man a higher wage than a woman with the same amount of experience for the same work? |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:06:25 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 19:58:39 2019. LOLROFL |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:08:21 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 21 22:03:25 2019. FALSE! If I stand on line 36 hours before Best Buy opens before Black Friday so I can get a 4K 60" TV for $100, I worked hard to be in the right place at the right time. It wasn't luck. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 22:10:59 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:03:15 2019. LUCK IS THE TRUTH WHY SOME MAKE IT AND MOST DO NOT AND GET LEFT BEHINDTHIS IS TRUE IN AMERI-KKK-A !! FACT |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 22:11:34 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:06:25 2019. NO DAVE IS A TRUMPANZEE AND CLUELESSFOX |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 22:12:12 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:08:21 2019. WRONG !!IDWTP |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 22:12:51 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 21 22:04:28 2019. THANK YOU SIRTHE STRUGGLE CONTINUES EVEN TODAY THANKS |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 21 22:36:04 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Sep 21 22:12:51 2019. I believe you but at least you have a strong partner and better control. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 21 23:01:51 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 14:43:50 2019. No, it's not luck. But working hard isn't the only thing. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Sep 21 23:11:51 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:03:15 2019. What was luck was that the job became available when it did. Getting in position to obtain and maintain the job was Chicagomotorman’s hard work. What if there had been a prolonged hiring freeze at that very moment? His life could have been entirely different. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Sep 21 23:13:56 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:04:51 2019. When she applied to work for Bernie Sanders |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 21 23:53:17 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Sep 21 23:11:51 2019. Exactly. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Sep 22 06:14:21 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 21 19:40:51 2019. That certainly sounds like more of your bingbong bullshit |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Sep 22 06:27:28 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 22:03:15 2019. I think that there is an element of luck and good timing along with the crystalization of a clearer vision for the future. In April 1980, my father in law died at age 79 while delivering milk on his route. That day, I decided to leave the family business and find a job that would afford me a decent retirement and be in a field that I would love. I pursued opportunities at several tailroad jobs and by November of that year, I chose the one that was most closely aligned with my interests and goals. Of course there was some luck involved too. I married a supportive wife and the governor signed legislation changing my Tier III pension to Tier IV but nice things happen to nice people. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 22 08:32:48 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Dave on Sat Sep 21 21:59:24 2019. Yep. Holt was certainly not yanked off the street to take over for fake-news Brian Williams. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 22 08:46:26 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Sep 21 23:11:51 2019. Because the CTA hadn't hired for years and CMM was lucky that the only day in 10 years CTA was hiring, he happened to walk in...right?You're grasping at straws. Oxford defines luck as, "success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions." CMM put in an application; he met the initial requirements and was interviewed; and then was hired. "Luck" is my meeting my future wife when we were freshmen in college. It wasn't luck but hard work that got me into that college in the first place. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 22 10:12:26 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 21 12:44:44 2019. Amen! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 22 10:13:46 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 21 14:30:10 2019. Cs get degrees! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 22 10:14:54 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Sep 21 14:54:22 2019. That's like me. I take FULL responsibility on how my life turned out |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 22 10:15:56 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 22 10:14:54 2019. Would you still take "full responsibility" for your life if you were currently homeless? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 22 10:22:48 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 21 19:40:51 2019. How much would you expect sandwich makers to earn? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Sep 22 10:27:49 2019, in response to Re: Looking Forward to Retirement is a Thing of the Past, posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 21 18:44:57 2019. The sexes aren't equal. That's Nature. Different, yes. |
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