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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 22:58:43 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 20:09:02 2019.

Racist post.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 22:59:32 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 12 22:13:42 2019.

Almost certainly too much.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 23:00:23 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 22:34:05 2019.

I WOULD DO EVERYTHING TO KEEP MY CHILDREN AND THE WORLD DISEASE FREE

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 23:06:56 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 12 22:43:55 2019.

FIRST I WOULD TRY TO GET THEM EXEMPT FROM A DOCTOR

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 23:07:05 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 22:55:29 2019.

NAH

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 23:07:39 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 22:58:43 2019.

NOPE BLACK CHILDREN ARE AFFECTED THE MOST
FACT

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 23:07:54 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 22:59:32 2019.

NOPE

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 23:08:22 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 23:00:23 2019.

YOU DONT NEED TO INJECT YOUR CHILDREN WITH DRUGS

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 23:29:22 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 22:36:00 2019.

Millions of children (including myself, and probably you too) have had vaccines and not gotten ill from them. And that's not worth it?

So many kids were suffering from polio and measles that parents couldn't get their kids vaccinated fast enough, and you think they were overreacting?

Ever seen the results of someone crippled by polio?

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 00:07:57 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 23:29:22 2019.

I HAVE HEARD OF IT
BUT I TRUST VACCINES MUCH MORE
SORRY
NO FLU SHOT FOR ME

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 00:08:42 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 12 23:29:22 2019.

I HAVE HEARD OF IT
BUT I DONT TRUST VACCINES MUCH MORE
SORRY
NO FLU SHOT FOR ME
CORRECTION

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:41:03 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 23:08:22 2019.

Yes, you do.

Drugs that treat and cure disease are humanityís gift to itself.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:41:31 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 23:07:39 2019.

FALSE!

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 00:44:08 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:41:03 2019.

INJECT MY CHILD WITH DRUGS ??
NO

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 00:44:20 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:41:31 2019.

NOPE

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:47:17 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 00:44:08 2019.

YES!

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 00:49:47 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:47:17 2019.

OH HELL NO

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 00:51:37 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 00:49:47 2019.

OH HELL YES!

I trust doctors and scientists. I do not trust god and nature.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 00:59:44 2019, in response to SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 15:30:23 2019.

I've a bit more nuanced opinion than most.

The state forcing something into your body is intrusive. So I am against requiring vaccines simply as requisite to exist in this country.

However, I'm ok with the child being allowed to override the parent and make their own decision to vaccinate if they're old enough (maybe 13? the minimum age to get accounts with various internet services).

I'm also ok with requiring the most important vaccines to attend public schools so long as another option is available, but those vaccines must be specified in the law (so they can't make the annual flu shot required, for example). If someone is objecting to vaccines for religious reasons, there should hopefully be a private/religious school available that will allow it. Maybe it will create demand and new religious schools will crop up. There's always homeschooling as well.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 01:03:57 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 00:59:44 2019.

If you donít want to be responsible for vaccinating another person, donít have children.

Why is it not wrong to impose religion on children?

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 01:22:35 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 00:59:44 2019.

WOW
OVERIDE THE PARENT ?
I DONT KNOW ABOUT THAT


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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 01:22:50 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 01:03:57 2019.

WELL

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:35:21 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 01:03:57 2019.

1. Some popular religions also have a directive to go forth and multiply.
2. The 1st amendment combined with the fact that minors aren't allowed to make decisions on their own. If the religion truly believes that vaccines will damn the person's soul to hell, forcing it onto someone violates freedom of religion.

Now, I also understand herd immunity, and on a personal level I think vaccinations are good and important, but government force is too authoritarian for me to stomach. It opens the door to government force on putting other things into your body (subcutaneous implants for tracking?).

It's kinda my stance on abortion. I personally think it's morally abhorrent in many cases (recently I learned there's people with a "breeding fetish" who will intentionally get pregnant, play along with the pregnancy stage even going so far as to learn the sex of the child, then abort at the latest it's legally allowed). But, I don't trust the government to get my list of exceptions right, and there's something to be said about the government forcing a person to be the host of another being, so I have to side with some level of pro-choice.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 01:43:18 2019, in response to SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 15:30:23 2019.

You're such a "right-winger" on this subject, lol.

Since the hard left that runs CA has done this, it hands the argument to the "anti-vaxxers" as they're called. But you're right: the decision should be up to the family and not the government, but it has to be an informed decision and not one fueled by hysteria.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 01:46:04 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:35:21 2019.

ok

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 01:47:32 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 01:43:18 2019.

right winger ?
woah nelly
i am family choice and not the state forcing you to do something wrong

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:49:05 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 01:22:35 2019.

I knew I'd get negative reactions from both sides, thus the nuance is achieved.

I read a lot on reddit. There's people who grow up in anti-vax households (for a variety of reasons) who would secretly get them anyway when they were teenagers. Depending on the country, this could get the doctor/nurse/etc in trouble, and at the very least the medical records will be inaccurate if keeping the secret is desired, which could cause more problems down the line.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 01:49:17 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:35:21 2019.

there's something to be said about the government forcing a person to be the host of another being

That's a ridiculous notion, especially since the other being is a human being and you're denying that being's rights by siding with abortion. Government exists to protect people's rights, and to equate natural motherhood with parasitism (parasites kill and eat the host) is what is false and abhorrent, never mind not defining unborn people as non-human and thus having no rights.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 01:50:25 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 01:47:32 2019.

That's a right-wing position. Welcome to the "right".

The left wants to abolish family, private property, religion and national borders. Don't side with them unless you want the government to force you to give up all of those.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 01:53:02 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 01:49:17 2019.

Your god is a parasite.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:55:13 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 01:49:17 2019.

Whether or not the other being is a person/human or not is an opinion, for now. I hold that opinion but others do not, and no scientist has come out with irrefutable proof one way or the other. If they did the abortion debate would be over by now.

Now, most late term abortions should be abhorrent to anyone, since simply extracting the baby and putting it in an incubator instead will often result in perfectly healthy human.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 01:55:29 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:35:21 2019.

1. I donít care.
2. Good point about freedom of religion and children making decisions. But at the same time, as they are incapable of making decisions, they are not really members of the religion because they lack the capacity to consent to join it.

I disagree about vaccines. A certain level of government coercion is normal.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 01:57:41 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:55:13 2019.

Itís only a matter of opinion due to definition. It has nothing to do with proof one way or another. The way I see it as that in order for it to be a human being with rights superior to the preference of its host (if applicable) is for it to have characteristics that make it human and not some other, expendable, animal.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 02:03:46 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 01:43:18 2019.

The decision should be up to the government and to licensed doctors, and not to uninformed idiots.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 02:04:05 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 01:47:32 2019.

I am anti-choice.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 02:06:56 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 13 01:55:29 2019.

at the same time, as they are incapable of making decisions, they are not really members of the religion because they lack the capacity to consent to join it.

I don't know about other religions but Catholicism somewhat rectified this by moving confirmation to something like 7th grade. I remember religion teachers and clergy framing it as a choice whether or not to continue being Catholic. There was some work to be done (had to find a saint to take their name as our middle/confirmation name and write a paper that would not be graded on them) which could be skipped if not getting confirmed, adding an incentive for lazy folk to opt out.

That said, Catholicism, after having been burned by the Galileo scandal, has been pro-science ever since and has no problem with vaccination, evolution, big bang theory, etc.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 02:15:45 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 12 18:30:30 2019.

I'll voluntarily grab any vaccine that seems useful. Heck I get the flu shot every year after learning about the bird flu which was missed in that year's vaccine but anyone who had gotten a 1956(?) flu shot was fine - figured I'd start to collect them all in case it happens again. But forcing everyone to do so, I do not like.

I'll concede that anyone who works with children (who are not their own) should have to get vaccines, or even requiring it of government employees as a whole, but there should always be a path for someone to opt out.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 02:27:32 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 01:43:18 2019.

Anti-vax is definitely not a left or right thing, it's its own world.

A friend is anti-vax because her 2nd child had a really bad reaction to one. Far left political leanings for the most part. Marianne Williamson level spiritual leanings.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 13 02:31:21 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 02:06:56 2019.

Well Catholics were forced to be more open minded and intellectual.

Protestant movement was intellectual and Judaism also intellectual. Us Catholics had to keep up as much as we could.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 02:38:25 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 13 02:31:21 2019.

Many Protestants doubled down on anti-science though. All the creationists / earth is 6800 years old folk are Protestants. The Vatican banned creationists ("intelligent design") from an evolution thing they were holding a decade ago, during Benedict II's reign (the most conservative Pope for the past 70ish years).

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 13 02:45:31 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE VACCINES ON YOUR CHILDREN ?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 02:38:25 2019.

Protestant countries and cultures are the most well educated. Ironically they are anti God anti family anti borders anti property.

Germany England and Sweden are good examples.

England is more Catholic than protestant now. Things would be worse without Catholicism there.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 13 04:54:04 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:55:13 2019.

Whether or not the other being is a person/human or not is an opinion

Slippery slope to dehumanizing any human being no matter the stage of development. Get your head out of the leftist propaganda.

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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 13 06:13:00 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:55:13 2019.

Now, most late term abortions should be abhorrent to anyone, since simply extracting the baby and putting it in an incubator instead will often result in perfectly healthy human.

That assumes the late term abortion is to get rid of a perfectly healthy baby if it were to be born normally. But what about if the baby is severely deformed? What about if the mother's life is threatened?

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 13 06:29:32 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 00:44:20 2019.



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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 13 07:19:55 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Sep 12 23:06:56 2019.

You wouldn't want your kids seeing a doctor? That's what you posted.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Sep 13 07:20:58 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 02:15:45 2019.

We don't let people with active TB run amok in the streets, because we recognize the state's compelling interest in ensuring public health. Likewise, the state does have a legitimate interest in making sure children aren't exposed to preventable communicable diseases. The perceived right of parents to opt out of having their kids inoculated isn't superior of the community's collective right to have their kids be safe from horrifying illnesses that medical science knows how to prevent.

I cannot think of too many things worse than being a mother or father watching their child die horribly from a disease we conquered long ago, because of a decision made for the child that was clearly not in their best interest. If too many parents choose not to have their children vaccinated, we might see a resurgence of maladies we thought eradicated. Mandatory vaccinations are a right and proper application of municipal authority.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 13 07:23:52 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 13 00:44:08 2019.

In some states (NY, for example), NOT vaccinating your child is considered child abuse or child neglect and you could be prosecuted.

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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 13 07:38:27 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 02:15:45 2019.

there should always be a path for someone to opt out

And what if their opting out cripples a different child for life? Remember that some kids can't be immunized because they have other medical conditions, and babies can't be immunized.






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Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 13 07:39:48 2019, in response to Re: Should your state force vaccines on your children?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 13 01:55:13 2019.

Now, most late term abortions should be abhorrent to anyone, since simply extracting the baby and putting it in an incubator instead will often result in perfectly healthy human.

Where on earth is the jurisdiction that allows late term abortions of healthy fetuses?



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Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 13 07:41:02 2019, in response to Re: SHOULD YOUR STATE FORCE NEGLIGENT PARENTS TO STOP INFECTING YOUR CHILDREN?, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 13 07:23:52 2019.

As it should be. It's like not giving aspirin to a kid with a fever of 105. Sure, things might turn out all right, but ...


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