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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 20:23:26 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 25 19:48:27 2019.

I was talking about MY friends. One has a kid with CF, and she had to move out west to Vancouver because that's where the hospital that could take care of her daughter is. Another one had to wait almost a year to get a hernia surgery. They say for routine checkups, it's ok, but if you need something done, they'll pencil you in when they get to it

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 20:24:28 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 20:07:50 2019.

Hey!

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 20:42:21 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 20:23:26 2019.

In America, if you can't afford it, they'll get to you after you're in the grave.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Aug 25 20:54:15 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 25 14:34:51 2019.

Step by step...

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 21:17:25 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 20:42:21 2019.

Yes, that's why you make sure you get insurance.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 25 21:34:18 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 25 20:06:49 2019.

Not a Three Stooges fan, eh?

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 21:59:07 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 16:22:09 2019.

You should go. I was there twice, once as a kid in 1966 and as a bigger kid in 1978. Take the train & enjoy the ride up the Hudson & across New York State while enjoying a few adult beveridges & whatever passes for food on Amtrak these days. Stay on the Canadian side. Soak in everything, then rent a car & make a day trip on the QEW highway to Toronto. Nice scenery on the Canadian side of lake Ontario. Toronto is a nice town & one of the cleanest I've ever been in.
Its a good vacation that won't cost you serious bucks.
Just make sure you get Canadian currency ( and passport) before you leave. I don't know what the exchange rate is but if you buy something there & pay with American greenbacks, your change will be in the form of Canadian paper with Queen portraits which spells ripoff to the low information tourist. Thats discovered when they convert it back to US legal tender.
Its a trip you won't regret.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 00:40:03 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 21:59:07 2019.

Oh yeah, I've been to Canada several times. Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick. I just haven't been to Niagara

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 08:31:36 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 20:24:28 2019.

Eh sorry. I get tired of seeing feet up on dashboards turning from the wrong lane everyday and other stupid garbage. It's starting to spill over.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 08:33:29 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 21:17:25 2019.

In Canada, they won't let you in.

In America, if you're Canadian and want in here, they give you a dozen medical tests in a day. The types that involving a lot of poking and maybe blood.

If you're a dreamer, you can hack up a lung and get politicans to pander to you.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 26 08:56:54 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 17:59:09 2019.

So was The Terror.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 26 09:41:34 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 20:05:54 2019.



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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 26 09:43:05 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Aug 26 09:41:34 2019.

The 3 stooges version was better.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 09:51:43 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 20:08:10 2019.

My only opportunity there was an evening from Buffalo, well Amherst I believe technically. And having been in Florida and the south, yada yada, I'm not into tourist traps anymore. But I did make an exception for Niagara. Beaches and Disney never did it for me.

Don't know if it's relatable, but I liked that I can drive in rush hour and actually get somewhere. I dread going to a store after 11am in the sunbelt for the traffic.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 26 10:31:06 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 16:21:51 2019.

During on of my work episodes in the 1980's, they started to get us ready for the metric system, but it never happened here. IMHO, I like it.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:40:31 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 26 08:56:54 2019.

True, but some of those people got what was coming to them.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:42:45 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 25 20:06:49 2019.

Nobody under a certain age gets the reference or cares.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:43:29 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 09:51:43 2019.

That's what economic decline gets you.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:46:57 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 26 10:31:06 2019.

Everyone who isn't into tradition and who's not resistant to change prefers the metric system.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 26 10:52:36 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:40:31 2019.

Considering the way the factions went back and forth it was a case of "Slice AND be Sliced."

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 10:55:51 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 16:21:51 2019.

That Metric system is a bunch of baloney!

LOL. The US auto industry converted to the metric system decades ago to save money. So have most other manufacturers.

The only thing in favor of the English system is that feet and pounds are more useful measures for everyday life than meters and kilograms.

At the risk of getting on-topic, a key issue in sizing subway car motors is the formula F=ma. Do you even know how to figure out what your mass is in slugs (the English system unit for mass)?







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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 10:58:07 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:46:57 2019.

I would always use the metric system for anything that involved computations. But I see no harm in the English system being used for every day purposes.


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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 26 11:13:15 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Aug 25 17:25:53 2019.

I've been to both. I love keep one particular restaurant on the Canadian side and the Canadians have the ziplines. The Canadian side in general is cleaner but I like US currency and the Casino on the US side.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:13:52 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:46:57 2019.

lol. if you're an illiterate they do.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:14:26 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 10:55:51 2019.

Yes, we're all going to start building cars again like it were 1914.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:14:54 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 25 17:59:09 2019.

And they changed the weights last year again.

Seems consistant and wonderful.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:15:30 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:42:45 2019.

"a certain age"

Must be more of that metric detail.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:17:22 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 10:43:29 2019.

Ric Perry made some great points about that which I'll never forget.

He'd rather have the problems of growth than decline.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:19:59 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 21:59:07 2019.

I decided to get money ahead of time at a bank. Nice 8 or so pip cut off the top.
The rest of the world has exchange booths everywhere. Find a decent looking booth in a crowded highrise, she gave me the full value with zero fee. If it's 1.31 per dollar, I got 1.31.
They say watch out for counterfeit, but you know who looks like a cheat and where it doesn't.

Next time, I'm waiting.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:21:44 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Aug 25 18:53:02 2019.

Metric is for guys who want to pretend to be "bigger", and girls who want to be thinner.
It serves no useful purpose in everyday life. Just ask the lines of people standing in front of any home depot. They know metric, and they can't use it.

and speed limit of 40 on residential streets? gimme a break. Just say 25, you speak english, use it.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 26 11:27:03 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 26 09:43:05 2019.

IVMAWTP.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:29:18 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 10:55:51 2019.

It gets better in Metric. Power is measured in watts. Watts are both newton meters (joules) per second and volt amps. Thus electric supply can be translated directly to energy and force with a formula that a fourth grader can master.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:34:08 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 10:58:07 2019.

Every other country managed to switch over (except for the UK with highway signs, but IMO that is the hardest to change). There's no reason to keep using the English system day to day.

Switching to kilometers might make it clear to more people how unnecessarily low US speed limits are compared to European speed limits.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:35:10 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:29:18 2019.

Yeah, AOC and DiBlassio and their voters look like they understand Joules.

At my summer jobs in High School, all the older people who would ask me what 50% of of a $20 shirt was all came from those Metric countries btw.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:36:20 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:34:08 2019.

Yeah, by calling it 160kph instead of what it is will really prove that point!

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:38:14 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Aug 26 11:13:15 2019.

It's kinda hard to like any currency when you're getting hosed with tourist rates. 20-25 for a garage, 4 dollars for a 9 ounce coke(thanks pig!), so on and so on.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 11:39:28 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:29:18 2019.

Of course, kilowatt hours have that awkward factor of 3600 tossed in. We need metric time keeping! :)

Though amusingly, since a calorie is 4.2 joules, a kilocalorie and a watt-hour are remarkably close to being the same.




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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:39:31 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:14:54 2019.

The change was negligible for day-to-day use.

At some point they'll have to change it again so that 1 mole of Carbon-12 once again has an exact mass of .012 kg.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:40:27 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:17:22 2019.

IAWTP.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:41:04 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 11:19:59 2019.

It's cheaper to use an ATM.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 11:42:53 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:34:08 2019.

Heh. So in the UK it seems like they measure fuel efficiency in miles per litre?



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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:45:12 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 11:39:28 2019.

So they should post nutritional information in Watt Hours.

Interestingly, using Joules for nutrition would allow people to compare the energy consumption of their bodies to other machines. Someday I guarantee you they will invent a way to charge electrical devices (i.e. phones) with your body's energy. People will realize how annoyingly efficient the human body really is.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 26 11:45:27 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:29:18 2019.

WATT ?

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:48:45 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 11:42:53 2019.

Continental Europeans measure fuel efficiency in liters per 100 km, not km/l.

The reciprocal kind of makes sense: Instead of figuring out how far you can drive on one tank of gas, it tells you how many gallons you'll need for a typical drive.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:49:49 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 26 11:45:27 2019.

Significant Figures.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Aug 26 12:19:18 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:49:49 2019.

LOL

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 12:25:14 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:48:45 2019.

"The reciprocal kind of makes sense: Instead of figuring out how far you can drive on one tank of gas,"

A "new" thing they put on the car stickers I thought at the dealership. Range per tank

"it tells you how many gallons you'll need for a typical drive."

Yeah, in MPG, I already do this. Use maybe a gallon a day if I'm commuting downtown.
Guess how many business days it is until I burn 10 gallons. Hint, it doesn't take any conversions.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 12:26:52 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:39:31 2019.

You just told me that the metric system is a sin. Accurate weights and measurements are a commandment. If you can't do it right, I'll keep my english language easy to say system.


I better write to Israel to get them to change this.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 12:27:46 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 26 11:39:28 2019.

They tried to redo the calendar and clocks at the same time they forced metric on people.

There's only so much the people will take.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 12:30:13 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 11:41:04 2019.

True, it's cheaper than using the teller. But you still get some transaction fee of a few cents.

I got the full value with no fee and no percentage at the booth. I'm remembering this woman next time I ever get lucky and see her again.

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