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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 13 17:06:35 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jun 13 16:58:08 2019.

... bless you! ( don't know how to spell goesintight!)

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 13 17:10:42 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Jun 13 16:43:27 2019.



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Re: More Catsup (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Dave on Thu Jun 13 18:04:57 2019, in response to Re: More Catsup (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 13 16:58:53 2019.

IAAWTP.

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Re: More Mayonnaise (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Dave on Thu Jun 13 18:09:10 2019, in response to Re: More Mayonnaise (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 13 16:34:03 2019.

My wife got back from Las Vegas last night after presiding over a two-day trial. She had dinner Tuesday at Carnegie Deli at the Mirage and she saw someone order pastrami with mayo. The waiter asked her 3 times was she sure that was what she wanted. When he delivered my wife's sandwich she made a comment and he shrugged, saying they see all kinds of rubes in LV.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jun 14 02:43:08 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 13 16:36:18 2019.



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Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else?

Posted by The Silence on Fri Jun 14 07:04:09 2019, in response to Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else?, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 12 14:21:50 2019.

So... what you're telling us that someone saying "if you're going to do this, don't expect us to help" is the same thing as if they said "I hate Jewish people".



That's a reach if I've ever seen one...


Do you have some compulsive need to play the victim card any time someone has any issues with an action of the Israeli government? help us understand this.

Let's put it this way; this is what we all see in circumstances like this...

Netanyahu "We're going to add Area X to the territory we control."


Someone else "Are you sure that's a good idea? Won't that get people angry?"


YOU "Someone Else' hates jews!"



You see how stupid that looks?


I mean, by your logic, I should be able to do what I want and just shove "you're transphobic" into the face of anyone who disagrees with me.



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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 14 07:46:04 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 13 10:50:52 2019.

I never said Bernie wasn't a Jew. I did say he is a Jew by accident of birth, nothing more. Believe me, Hitler would have sent him to Auschwitz without hesitation.

A self-hating Jew is a Jew who feels that Jews have no worth, does whatever he can to hide the fact that he is Jewish and pokes fun at the Jewish religion whenever he can.

I worked with a woman once who had a Jewish father and a Greek mother. She had a very Jewish name but was raised Greek and had no connection to Judaism at all. She used to laugh at me when I left for Sabbath and the holidays. I loved reminding her that Hitler would have sent her to Auschwitz as quickly as he would have me and that Hitler would not have cared one whit about her Greek upbringing.



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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by AlM on Fri Jun 14 07:53:20 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 14 07:46:04 2019.

A self-hating Jew is a Jew who feels that Jews have no worth, does whatever he can to hide the fact that he is Jewish and pokes fun at the Jewish religion whenever he can.

1. You can do all of the above without hating yourself. You're describing hatred of Judaism, not hatred of self.

2. Does Sanders do any of the above?




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Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 14 08:09:09 2019, in response to Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else?, posted by The Silence on Fri Jun 14 07:04:09 2019.

what you're telling us that someone saying "if you're going to do this, don't expect us to help" is the same thing as if they said "I hate Jewish people"

No, that's not it at all.

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Re: More Horse$#!+ (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 14 09:19:28 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 13 10:50:52 2019.

Only takes a bit of research to determine someone's heritage. Funny that you're a self-proclaimed journalist and do exactly none of that.

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Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 14 09:53:47 2019, in response to Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else?, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 12 14:21:50 2019.

By your logic, you're anti-Russia if you reject the annexation of Crimea.

N.B.: I support the annexation of Crimea, provided the referendum were fair.

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Re: Hillary would have paid for Russian annexation of Crimea

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jun 14 10:10:17 2019, in response to Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 12 10:46:17 2019.

The US pays for it? LOL. What is this, eminent domain?! LOL

Is this something that gets a person out to actually vote??

And this is the group JayzeeBMT wants to hang with?


Like the comments say, you can attack a woman, but you run away from a Black Man. #typicaldemonkkkrat


Oh yea, I should cross post this in the violence of the left thread.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 14 12:07:43 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by AlM on Fri Jun 14 07:53:20 2019.

2. No.

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Re: Palestinian Refugee camps

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jun 16 07:14:19 2019, in response to Palestinian Refugee camps, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 13 09:16:20 2019.

They are permenant. They are concrete multi-story permenant buildings.

You're not talking about tents in Kenya, you're talking cities.


And even furhter along these "southern Syrians" that you are talking about, have an entire country already, as they populate 70% of it.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Jun 16 15:43:21 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jun 13 12:28:56 2019.

Unlike with Christianity apparently, you're either a Jew or you're not. It's pretty clear cut.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jun 16 16:01:42 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Jun 16 15:43:21 2019.

IINM, there is disagreement among the different denominations of Judaism over which of them contains "real" Jews or not.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 16 16:06:03 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Jun 16 15:43:21 2019.

IAWTP

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 16 16:06:23 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jun 16 16:01:42 2019.

No, there isn’t.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Dave on Sun Jun 16 16:45:20 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jun 16 16:01:42 2019.

All flavors of Judaism accept matrillineal descent. Reform Judaism accepts patrillineal descent.


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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 16 16:48:27 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Dave on Sun Jun 16 16:45:20 2019.

What do you think of Jewish men who are spermjacking victims?

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Jun 16 19:10:35 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 16 16:06:23 2019.

I thought there was a controversy where Orthodox rabbis in Israel didn't want to recognize Reform(?) Jews in the US.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 16 19:22:49 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by 3-9 on Sun Jun 16 19:10:35 2019.

But they have no problem recognizing natural-born Jews.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Jun 16 21:49:19 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 16 19:22:49 2019.

So there is a problem between different denominations of Judaism. Unless Reform Jews don't follow the basic rules in the first place, and call themselves Jews anyway?

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 17 01:30:38 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 16 16:48:27 2019.

I think you are an incel.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jun 17 03:35:09 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Dave on Mon Jun 17 01:30:38 2019.

A technical point if I might. At what level of infrequency is one considered to be celibate?

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 05:04:47 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by 3-9 on Sun Jun 16 21:49:19 2019.

The issue is that Orthodox Jews feel that the reform ceremonies are insufficient in that the converters are not taught the right things in their conversion classes. Nothing stops a person who intends to convert to Reform Judaism from undertaking an Orthodox conversion, although he’d have to convince the rabbi his conversion is sincere and “I want to be a reform Jew” might not be.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 17 05:35:12 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jun 17 03:35:09 2019.

Got me by the short hairs on that question!

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jun 17 10:16:52 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 05:04:47 2019.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 17 11:29:51 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 05:04:47 2019.

"The issue is that Orthodox Jews feel that the reform ceremonies are insufficient in..."

Please do not lump all Orthodox Jews into this category. You are referring to the Haredi Jews, aka the ultra-Orthodox crowd and people leaning toward that position. But not all Orthodox Jews feel this way.

I'm an Orthodox Jew from birth (attended a Brooklyn yeshiva for high school) and I couldn't care less if a Jew is Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, Whig or a partridge in a pear tree. I subscribe to the notion of the "pintele yid", that every Jew, no matter how assimilated, has the tiny spark of Judaism in him of her.

I think its asinine for the ultra-Orthodox to try to discourage anyone. Hitler didn't check a Jew's pedigree before gassing him to death. Jews should adopt this attitude but in a positive way - you accept every Jew from every walk of life.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 11:53:40 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 17 11:29:51 2019.

You quoted the main part of my post and yet your response doesn't reflect it. I was talking only of conversions. Surely you'd agree that a non-Jew just waking up one day saying "I'm Jewish now" doesn't make him/her Jewish.

Unless of course they were Jewish all along. A famous example: Ivanka Trump is Jewish now, but she wasn't always.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 17 18:04:04 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 11:53:40 2019.

Judaism doesn't recognize conversions out of the faith. Judaism says if you're born a Jew, you're a Jew all the way. If you try to convert out, you're an apikoris, an apostate, but still a Jew.

By this definition, the late, great John Cardinal O'Connor was in fact Jewish. His mother was Jewish and even though she converted, Judaism considered her Jewish and her son too.

No wonder the guy got along so well with the Jewish community. He was a real mensch.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 18:04:53 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 17 18:04:04 2019.

Did not know that, cool.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 18:05:24 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 17 18:04:53 2019.

I meant the fact about Cardinal O’Connor. I knew the rest.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 17 18:18:09 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 17 18:04:04 2019.

interesting.

Half Irish-Catholic, half Jewish.

I wonder if he liked alcohol.

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Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 18 12:07:53 2019, in response to Re: More Horseshit! (Re: Palestinian Refugee camps), posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 17 18:18:09 2019.

He liked it, but only if it was on sale!

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Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 19 10:03:50 2019, in response to Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 10:49:19 2019.



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Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 19 14:31:03 2019, in response to Re: Pete Buttigieg Is An Anti Semite Your Attention mtk52983 Or Anyone Else, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jun 19 10:03:50 2019.

BINGO!!! SOMEBODY has to tell these people the truth!!

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