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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 00:22:03 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 6 20:17:30 2018.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 00:25:09 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 6 19:09:10 2018.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 00:25:24 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Dec 6 23:12:36 2018.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 7 05:12:15 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Dec 6 23:12:36 2018.

So that's why the city agreed to pay Garner's family a civil settlement of almost six million dollars... because Garner committed "suicide by cop".

Miss me with that bullshit.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 06:56:20 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 7 05:12:15 2018.

The City paid $6,000,000 because it is run by bleeding hearts who think police are all evil. If Bloomberg or Giuliani were mayor they would never have approved the settlement.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 06:58:10 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Dec 6 22:01:04 2018.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner “Chokehold” Heart Attack Death

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 07:01:21 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner “Chokehold” Heart Attack Death, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Dec 6 22:32:14 2018.

IAWTP, but that does not matter to the racist cop haters in the current administration.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by Dave on Fri Dec 7 07:35:50 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 6 22:10:36 2018.

What does my wife's birthday have to do with this?

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 7 08:31:03 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 06:56:20 2018.

If the city had a strong case, it should have taken Garner's family to trial. By choosing to settle for such a large amount instead, the city admits that they wouldn't be able to convince a jury that Garner caused his own death. Their own employee--the Staten Island ME--stated in legal documents that Garner's death was a homicide, making it pretty tough to prove otherwise in court.

The city's Law Department is not full of "bleeding hearts" looking cut checks at the drop of a hat. Many of it's attorneys were there during the tenure of Bloomberg and Giuliani. Diallo's family, and Abner Louima both received huge settlements from the city, just like Garner's family did.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 08:42:37 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 7 08:31:03 2018.

You know damn well that the quality of the case is not the single determining factor in whether a case goes to trial. By going to trial it keeps more coverage on the case, which New York City obviously did not want. There is a reason civil settlements are inadmissible to prove guilt.

The line attorneys in Corporation Counsel office likely have served under multiple administrations, but the final decisions on cases of this magnitude are well above the pay grade of line attorneys. They are made by the political appointees of Mayor “deBlasio”.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 08:46:57 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 08:42:37 2018.

“deBlasio”

???

Why the quotes. Is that not his name?



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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 09:32:47 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 08:46:57 2018.

I am checking to see whether he ever legally changed his name through proper procedures.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 09:42:12 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 09:32:47 2018.

Hmm. If he hadn't, would he be the properly elected mayor? Can one run under an alias?



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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 09:44:25 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 09:42:12 2018.

As a total aside, on the one tax return our fearless leader let leak out, our first lady is listed as Melanija Knavss, not Melania Knauss or Melania Trump. But of course she isn't running for public office.



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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 09:59:05 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 09:44:25 2018.



This is our President?

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Dec 7 10:14:11 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 09:44:25 2018.

What the fuck are you yammering about. This has nothing to do with the current thread. Don't complain about thread hijacking.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Dec 7 10:15:59 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 6 20:17:30 2018.

LOL, JayZero histrionics approaching warp speed

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner “Chokehold” Heart Attack Death

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Dec 7 10:18:04 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner “Chokehold” Heart Attack Death, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 07:01:21 2018.

Or the racist cop hater who posts here.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:26:21 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 6 16:24:39 2018.

You knew who Gardner was before the incident?

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 10:26:35 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Dec 7 10:14:11 2018.

mtk first brought up the use of aliases by public figures, not me.

And I don't complain about thread hijacking. You have me confused with someone else.


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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:30:15 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 00:20:02 2018.

figures

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:31:38 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 06:58:10 2018.

me too

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:31:54 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 00:19:38 2018.

figures

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:32:11 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 00:22:03 2018.

figures

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:32:48 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 00:25:09 2018.

figures

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:33:01 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 00:25:24 2018.

figures

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Dec 7 10:58:04 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 10:26:35 2018.

That would be Olog who complains about thread-jacking. Except when Luch does it, then most of us complain because no one here likes Luch.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Dec 7 11:25:08 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Dec 7 10:58:04 2018.

I never said I didn't like him.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 11:57:02 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Dec 7 11:25:08 2018.

Me neither.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 12:33:39 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 7 08:31:03 2018.

For somebody who was a city employee, you are willfully ignorant on the way it works. The city always pays out! Always! They never fight the case because it's not worth the legal fees and that was probably the settlement that was agreed upon by both parties.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 12:34:30 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 08:46:57 2018.

No, that's not his name. His last name is Wilhelm but, like a perp, he uses AKAs.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 12:37:58 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 12:33:39 2018.

The city doesn't always pay out and will take cases to trial. The lower profile cases like those involving ACS or personal injury/slip and fall in particular they are worse than some insurance carriers. The high profile cases they want to make go away as quickly as possible because they don't want the publicity, not because of guilt.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 7 12:41:57 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 12:33:39 2018.

I beg to differ. I've seen cases where the city flat-out refused to pay, and won at trial.

The defendant doesn't always lose.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 12:47:46 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:26:21 2018.

Fuck yes! He was the number one Criminal of that 10 block radius that he plied his trade. All the store owners used to call up and complain because he was standing from the stores and threaten them if they ever said anything, he would take the license plates off his white SUV and drive around the neighborhood robbing people. The Housing Authority I know all about him too and they were in the process of trying to boot him out ( I don't know if the media ever let that be known to the public, probably not because you cannot tarnish the Saint's image) and I never worked in Staten Island! LOL but his name found his way to Brooklyn and Manhattan and Beyond! As soon as this made the news and I saw his name, I was like holy shit! It's about time this motherfucking died already! And yes Jay-Zee, what I just wrote is all true. In fact, the cops who confronted him was sent there by the commanding officer of the 120 Precinct specifically for him!

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 7 12:50:35 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 12:47:46 2018.

If you "never worked in SI", how do you know that any of your secondhand information is true?

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Non-Chokehold Heart Attack Death

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 7 13:01:05 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 12:47:46 2018.

The Housing Authority knew all about him too and they were in the process of trying to boot him out (I don't know if the media ever let that be known to the public)

If they did, it was probably ten paragraphs into an overly-long NY Slimes article whose first two paragraphs were filled with lies.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 13:25:47 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 7 12:37:58 2018.

Okay, let me clarify, I don't mean each and every single case but for a high-profile case like this, a settlement was made.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 13:25:51 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:31:54 2018.

WHAT

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 13:26:11 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 7 12:41:57 2018.

This was a high-profile case and it needed to go away as fast as possible

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 13:26:24 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:30:15 2018.

WHAT

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 13:26:38 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:32:11 2018.

WHAT

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 13:26:54 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:32:48 2018.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 13:27:03 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 7 12:50:35 2018.

Put your thinking cap on and see if you can figure it out all by yourself!

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 13:27:09 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 10:33:01 2018.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 13:28:05 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Dec 6 16:45:15 2018.

IAWTP

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Non-Chokehold Heart Attack Death

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 13:29:04 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Non-Chokehold Heart Attack Death, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 7 13:01:05 2018.

Put it this way, when Sean Bell was killed in Queens, the NYPD major case Squad had an active narcotics case on him going, which is a reason why Undercovers were at the scene. Once this happened, Ray Kelly himself gave the orders to not let this see the light of day and that case officially got squashed and was to never been talked about again. Shit happens behind closed doors. Unfortunately we live in a society where Optics takes precedence over reality and fact.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 13:33:27 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 13:28:05 2018.

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Non-Chokehold Heart Attack Death

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 7 13:36:27 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Non-Chokehold Heart Attack Death, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Dec 7 13:29:04 2018.

Ray Kelly himself gave the orders to not let this see the light of day

I thought it was only DeBlasio who did this stuff, and not Bloomberg.



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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 13:38:19 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 13:33:27 2018.

idwtp

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Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 7 13:41:08 2018, in response to Re: NYPD Officer Faces May Trial In Eric Garner Chokehold Death, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 7 13:38:19 2018.



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