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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 17 23:10:59 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 13:17:42 2018.

But what percentage of black mean commit crime? Since some police shootings are justified, it may well be that more black men find themselves in situations which result in police shootings and that, by itself, is not racist.

As for the effects of racism on this and other cases, I tend to think that black men are more likely to (unjustifiably) inspire fear in a police officer, leading them to pull the trigger. That's racism.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 00:08:56 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 17 23:10:59 2018.

I can beat you in this thread.



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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 01:02:54 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 22:23:10 2018.

No.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 01:11:20 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 01:02:54 2018.

You don't know what it means to me to see a boyish irishcatholic left wing radical claiming alcohol party was where she was attacked.

I am laughing.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 01:13:06 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 01:11:20 2018.

irishcatholic left wing radical

Oxymoron. You don't know what you're talking about as usual.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 01:21:51 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 01:13:06 2018.

It means a lot to me because I have been educating people about all these topics and now they're headline stories.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 01:30:04 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 01:21:51 2018.

You've been "educating" inside your head and you're seeing things that aren't there. Go eat some Brassica.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 03:07:53 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 01:30:04 2018.

where's AlM?

so much going on in politics and Irish-Catholicism and he's AWOL.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 07:24:24 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 17 23:10:59 2018.

What a naive statement. As an outsider, it might look like racism to you, but it's not racism, it's conditioning that they have, due to the nature of their work, due to who is resisting them, due to who they are arresting. In short, their reactions are based on who was committing the crime and who isn't. All you have to do is look at a police dog and see how they react around certain people. It's just the way it goes.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 07:29:30 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 00:08:56 2018.

That's nice. Now sit in the corner and have a cookie and a juice box.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Sep 18 07:47:32 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 07:24:24 2018.

SS bill strikes again

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 07:53:53 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 07:24:24 2018.

It looks like racism to me because it is.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 08:08:10 2018, in response to The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:01:59 2018.

Thread Hijack:

A more significant example for solely political reasons. The accuser can't remember exactly when. She can't remember exactly where. The accused says it never happened but you cunt liberals are so sure that she's telling the truth and he's lying. You are so willing to take the word of an apparent political operative over that of a man who's served honerably on the circuit Court for 12 years and in the process destroy a man's life, all because you don't believe that you will be served by his politics. And while she's accused him of a grope, some 35 years ago, you faux intellectuals have exaggerated the incident to include attempted rape. Trying to destroy a man's character, his career and his life, not really because of himself but because you hate the man who selected him.

In reality, none of our opinions actually matter in the grand scheme of things. Few if any care what appears on OTChat. But to be honest you liberals have become the mob, chasing the Frankenstein monster with your sticks and torches . Well done.






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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 08:33:07 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 08:08:10 2018.

Start your own thread

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 08:38:51 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 07:29:30 2018.

😂😂

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:04:54 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 07:53:53 2018.

No. Racism is when you do not like another race just based on what they are, or you feel like your race is superior to another race. Having to deal with a certain element day in and day out and day in and day out and arrest that element each and every time and get resistance from that element each and every time is just conditioning to the job that you do. Why do the police dogs on the subway train fire up at a black man in a business suit, and not a white guy with shorts and a t-shirt drinking a 40 oz? It's because the animals are conditioned to dealing with just a certain type of person. It's not racist, it's just the way it is. Just like in the movie The Great Santini, Toomer's dogs in the school bus where he lived, didn't like white folks. Because they were just around black people. It's just the way it goes. Cops and other people here, know who's coming in the crimes and who is not. It doesn't make them prejudiced, it just makes them realists. I know to Layman Outsiders, you guys don't understand that concept, but like Kurt Angle says, it's true, it's damn true!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:06:06 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 08:08:10 2018.

He is going to be our next Supreme Court Judge anyway, the snowflakes can cry and bitch all they want, it's not going to change reality.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:08:43 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 08:08:10 2018.

Ford told her therapist about this incident six years ago, and passed a polygraph test (yes, polygraph tests aren't admissible in court in most states, but still), and she will testify under oath about her detailed description of Kavanaugh's alleged behavior.

That being said to address your shameless smearing of his accuser, I actually oppose Kavanaugh's placement on SCOTUS because of his known positions on various issues, such as his "unitary executive" theory, and, yes, his views on LGBTQ rights. That Kavanaugh may also be a sexual predator, is also deeply problematic.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:17:22 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:08:43 2018.

It's HIGH SCHOOL shens!!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:17:49 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:08:43 2018.

It's HIGH SCHOOL shens!!

What are his views on gay rights?

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:26:24 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:04:54 2018.

Oh, stop with the police dogs bullshit. I had a dog that lived with me in my predominantly Black neighborhood in Queens, and she never had an adverse reaction to the odd white person she encountered. Stella, a border collie, was around Black people all the time, and it didn't affect her reactions to non-Black people at all.

If police dogs are "firing up" at Black men in business suits, but not at "white guys with shorts and T-shirts" drinking forties, that is a cue the dog receives from his handler. During my EMS years, I saw plenty of K9s both during jobs and just by chance, and I never saw any of these dogs react to Black people the way you described. Ever. Do K9s "fire up" around Black cops as opposed to white cops? What about when K9s work subway lines where the vast majority of passengers are Black? They must be in a "fired up" state all through their tour! How stressful that must be for the poor animal!

It's so sad that you actually expect people to believe your garbage.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:30:44 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:17:49 2018.

Kavanaugh has opposed same-sex marriage and follows Alito in opposing the 2003 Lawrence v. Texas decision.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:32:18 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:17:22 2018.

So, if I drunkenly kill someone while I'm a high school student, I get a free pass, because "shens"?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:44:53 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:32:18 2018.

Killing someone and fooling around with a chick are two different things.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:46:04 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:30:44 2018.

Why on Earth would you gays want to get married for? You should observe all of the miserable straights and realize it's not for you! I will never get married again! Never!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:46:07 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:44:53 2018.

Rape is a serious felony. It's not murder, but it isn't something to dismiss as "high school shens", either.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:54:44 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:26:24 2018.

You are comparing pets to a police dog. It's not bullshit, it happens to be the truth. If the truth hurts, change the behaviors!

Guess what? It has nothing to do with getting cues from the handlers when the police dogs fire up. I am specifically talking about the New York City Transit Police Department K9 dogs, Circa 30 years ago. The cop just had to enter the car with the dog and the dog would fire up on black people. Most of the time to the Chagrin of the officer who is handling the canine. It's not bullshit, it's reality. I know you don't want to believe me, but you also know I'm telling the truth. And they would fire up on Black cops as well. Also half of the white cops they fired up on as well also! The irony of my posts are you say things like you have trouble believing all of my garbage, but each and every single thing I say is 100% true. I swear to God, you will the only kid that grew up in the city that hasn't experienced the real life and you are only p a year older than me so we grew up in the same era. I would love to meet up one day over dinner or whatever and you would be eating crow because you would realize that I'm telling you the truth and yes, I have the creds to prove every single thing I say and then you would be like Jackie Gleason going homina homina homina homina and I'll be like it's okay, I accept your apology. I will not tell you what I retired from or what I did, but I will tell you this, I was a member of the New York City Transit Police Department for few years and this comes from my first-hand experiences from what I saw daily in regards to the NYCTPD K9 unit. Every post I make here is based on my reality, not histrionics.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:57:07 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:46:07 2018.

Except he didn't rape anybody. Just admit that this is a strolling and blocking attempt from the lives to try to discredit and impeccable man. The bottom line is he is going to get nominated and I will be sitting here like Nelson from The Simpsons saying haha!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 10:06:02 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:57:07 2018.

You are wasting your time. With JayZero's extremely limited intellect and furtive imagination, I'm surprised that the tale of him putting his hand over her mouth has not morphed into an attempted strangulation murder.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 10:06:33 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:54:44 2018.

Every post I make here is based on my reality, not histrionics.

OMG make it stop please make me stop laughing before I hurt myself oh God this is worse than when I saw Chris Rock live OMG I can't this is too funny I can't breathe I'm gonna die laughing right here in front of my computer Oh sweet Jesus this is too much the neighbors are wondering if I've lost my mind I think I pulled something OMG OMG OMG

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:08:00 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 10:06:33 2018.

Way to stereotype yourself!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:09:21 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 10:06:02 2018.

It will. And she would show the welt on her neck that she still has 35 years later! The bottom line is for the sake of the democratic party, and the fact that she doesn't like Trump, she willingly made herself the sacrificial lamb and put her passed out there and a lame attempt to discredit Kavanaugh.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Sep 18 10:13:23 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 07:29:30 2018.

lol iawtlp

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 10:27:03 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:04:54 2018.

No, racism is when you believe people's actions are affected by their race. It's when you look at a black guy in a suit and a white guy in shorts and a t-shirt drinking a 40 oz and assume that the former is a criminal and the latter is not.

And dogs can be racist too. It's obviously not willful on the dogs' part, they are conditioned like that by their human trainers and companions.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 10:31:42 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 08:08:10 2018.

It's called fighting dirty.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 10:37:00 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 09:08:43 2018.

That Kavanaugh may also be a sexual predator

Are there any other reports of this happening any time since Kavanugh's 17th birthday? If not then how do you draw the conclusion he's a sexual predator?

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 10:40:41 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 08:38:51 2018.

You can't make this stuff up, Fred!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 10:58:09 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 10:37:00 2018.

That's the JayZero intellect or the glaring lack of it. In actuality, he's just a hateful troll.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:00:10 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 10:27:03 2018.

Or when you give that same black guy preference in hiring or in college admissions, by your definition, wouldn't that be racism.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 11:06:24 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:00:10 2018.

Of course it would be racism. Why do you ask?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:06:59 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 10:31:42 2018.

Trying to destroy a man with a wife and two young daughters through the use of unproven sexual assault allegations is a bit more than fighting dirty but what the hell. All's fair in liberal political intrigue.

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:07:32 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 11:06:24 2018.

Thanks

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Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 11:09:43 2018, in response to Re: The Assassination Of Botham Jean by the Coward Amber Guyger, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 10:27:03 2018.

A dog cannot be racist. It only acts on what it experiences. So I do not believe that a dog going after a black guy in a suit is racist. I know I never said that. Since I am a thinking human being, I know that the Savage in that situation is the white guy.

Those canines reacted because of what they experienced, day in and day out and who they had to chase, and who they had to bite.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 11:10:43 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 18 10:31:42 2018.

If people are going to fight dirty, at least they should do it when fighting dirty is giving them a chance to actually win.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 11:11:32 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 10:37:00 2018.

There isn't any, which is why that the Dems are going back to high school. If they didn't find anything in high school, they would go back to the playground days where he pushed his kid into the sand at 6 years old

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 11:16:18 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 10:37:00 2018.

If a person attempts to molest a child when he is 17, that person is branded for life and is closely watched when around kids. Why shouldn't this also be true of an (alleged) would-be rapist like Kavanaugh?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:19:53 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 11:11:32 2018.

Let's not forget that this pervert might have touched his mother's breasts while an infant and may have had her nipples in his mouth. Clearly, this man is not for to walk in polite society.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 11:30:19 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:06:59 2018.

It's to be expected. Like I said, when he gets appointed, I will Like I said, when he gets appointed, I will sit here like Nelson from The Simpsons, pointing my finger, saying haha!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 11:31:52 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:19:53 2018.

And had to pass through his mother's vagina when he was being born!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 11:32:37 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Judge Kavanaugh, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 18 11:16:18 2018.

Wasn't the girl the same age as him? Sorry but the chart reads even. Only a few people here will get my reference.

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