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The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:01:59 2018

Since the fatal shooting of Botham Jean, a young Dallas professional who was killed by a police officer neighbor in his own living room almost two weeks ago, local authorities in that city have spared no effort to smear the victim and shield his killer. While Amber Guyger, the white city cop who claimed to have entered the wrong apartment, shooting Jean squarely

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 09:03:48 2018, in response to The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:01:59 2018.

?

Wasn't she arrested?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:13:47 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 09:03:48 2018.

Yes, for the lowest possible charge. See my full post on this thread about the whole sorry affair.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 09:17:34 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:13:47 2018.

Do you think she was having an affair with him?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:25:35 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 09:17:34 2018.

I wonder about that. Independent witnesses say they heard Guyger pounding on Jean's door, screaming "let me in", followed by gunshots, then a man's voice saying, "Oh my God, why did you do that?"

Both sides, however, vigorously deny that Guyger and Jean knew each other. Still, I think the "I was in the wrong apartment" story is ludicrous. Have you ever broken into an apartment you thought was yours?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 09:30:54 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:25:35 2018.

I suspected she was fucking him but

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 10:06:10 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:13:47 2018.

Manslaughter is not the lowest possible charge.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 10:13:29 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 10:06:10 2018.

Does Texas have a negligent homicide statute which would fit the circumstances of this incident as we know them?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 10:21:07 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 10:13:29 2018.

The cop committed murder, IMO, but she could have been charged with first degree aggravated assault.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 12:17:55 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 09:30:54 2018.

There's your crazy side speaking out again. Suspecting an interracial sexual relationship does not make one racist. Deficiency of Brassica is damaging your thinking.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:41:13 2018, in response to The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:01:59 2018.

You mentioned the cop being white. What does that have to do with anything?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:41:28 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 09:17:34 2018.

Yep!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:43:27 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:25:35 2018.

What did Stephen tell Calvin in Django Unchained?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 12:48:55 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:41:13 2018.

Another white cop kills an innocent Black man, and instead of closely scrutinizing the cop's story, investigators were quick to search the victim's home, looking for anything they could use to demonize him. Par for the course. Her race is a relevant element in this case.

Isn't it strange how this woman is getting kid-glove treatment from the system? An ordinary person of color would have been arrested at the scene and charged with murder, burglary, abd ADW, and you know it.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 12:55:18 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 12:48:55 2018.

LOL

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 12:59:11 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 12:55:18 2018.

Sorry, Train Rude, but I have no interest in anything you have to say.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 13:07:18 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:41:13 2018.

They keep trying to resurrect the "white cops are killing high numbers of unarmed black men" narrative. Last year, cops killed a total of 19 unarmed black males, and that's aside from the content of their character (fleeing from cops will get you shot, for example).

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:12:11 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 12:48:55 2018.

You know, I have a hard time believing that you work for City service. Don't you realize that there's an investigation going on in this very second and they are not going to tell the results and what they are finding out day after day to the general public? You really think this is 1961 Mississippi where a bunch of good old boys are sitting around drinking bourbon shots and smoking cigars talkin about how they have to make sure to protect the female because after all, it's only a worthless black person that got killed. It doesn't work like that! Everything will come out in court! She's done, she's doing jail time, she killed her lover.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 13:17:42 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 13:07:18 2018.

That is false. According to the Police Shootings Database, 48 unarmed Black men were killed by the police in 2017, making up 37% of all unarmed police homicide victims. That is three times the percentage of Black people in the population.

Less than one percent of the cops involved, faced any significant consequences for these killings.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:21:56 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 13:17:42 2018.

Why should they face consequences if they weren't doing anything wrong during the shooting?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 13:22:55 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:12:11 2018.

It is precisely because I worked for an emergency service, that I see things as I do.

"How many cops does it take to push a perp down the stairs?"

"None. He fell."

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:29:06 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 13:22:55 2018.

I heard that joke decades ago! Will guess what? It's not 1960 anymore, it's not even 1990 anymore so right now as we speak, the detectives and the bosses are completing their investigation. They have to see if there's any Witnesses, they have to get the lugs and tolls from cell phone records, landline phone records, check social media, etc etc. Remember, a guy on subchat does know better than they do! And I'm not talking about myself! 😉

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 13:30:38 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:21:56 2018.

How many out of 19 were really innocent bystanders?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:33:55 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 13:30:38 2018.

Probably 2. And before anyone else asked if I look that up, no I did not.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 13:40:58 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:33:55 2018.

I know what the word "probably" means; the libs conveniently forget the meaning when it suits them.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 13:47:46 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:29:06 2018.

The canvass should have been finished over a week ago (all the witnesses are at the exact same location), and a forensic cell phone search takes less than a single afternoon. If the "detectives and bosses" are completing a truly diligent investigation, why haven't they updated the public?

When the tables are turned, the police can't do enough press conferences about the big, bad Black "thugs" they just locked up. When I was in EMS, I saw that firsthand. Remember when that sick child from Baltimore came up to Brooklyn and blasted those two cops in their RMP? My old boss was among the first to arrive on the scene. He told me they did the presser, with chapter and verse, right from the scene with a portable podium. It's not hard to do media relations while preserving the integrity of the investigation.

Those Texas cops are buying time to script the narrative.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 13:52:23 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 13:30:38 2018.

Stop grasping at straws.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 14:22:08 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:29:06 2018.

they have to get the lugs and tolls from cell phone records

LUDs, not Lugs.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 14:28:36 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 12:59:11 2018.

LoL

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 14:34:23 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 13:40:58 2018.

Oh, that statement wasn't meant towards you!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 14:38:14 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 13:47:46 2018.

Det JayZee knows police work better than the law enforcement of Texas! Who are you to say when a homicide investigation should be concluded? Obviously they are crossing the Ts and dotting their Is.

"Sick child"?!?!

At the end of the day you don't know about Everest gave police work nor are you qualified to talk about it as an authority. Unlike certain other people on this board who are

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 14:38:38 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 13:47:46 2018.

Det JayZee knows police work better than the law enforcement of Texas! Who are you to say when a homicide investigation should be concluded? Obviously they are crossing the Ts and dotting their Is.

"Sick child"?!?!

At the end of the day you don't know about investigative police work nor are you qualified to talk about it as an authority. Unlike certain other people on this board who are

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 14:39:16 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 14:22:08 2018.

Talk to text. Just assume if I say or spell anything that's not grammatically correct, it's because it's the talk to text and I just pressed send without reviewing it first.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 14:40:05 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 14:38:38 2018.

Well of course he does. He still has his DICK Tracy decoder watch.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 14:46:38 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 14:38:14 2018.

I never said I was an "authority" on police work. However, there is too much about this case that just doesn't add up, based on what we do know so far. I'm pointing out the very obvious inconsistencies between the way this case is being handled, and the way it would get handled if no cop was involved.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 15:41:07 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 14:46:38 2018.

My whole point is that nothing is told to the public yet, so you are just assuming things and guessing!

That's one of the perks of the job! You look out for your own unless it's absolutely necessary that you can't. That goes with every job.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Sep 17 16:49:59 2018, in response to The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 09:01:59 2018.

Yup saw that sounds about right. I don't understand how they issued a search warrant for the VICTIM'S apartment... Well let me clarify I understand but don't see the 'justification' they used for it.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Sep 17 16:51:14 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 09:30:54 2018.

Why? I also suspect there to be something more to the story she isn't telling with that being a possibility.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Sep 17 17:00:38 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 15:41:07 2018.

Untrue what was told to the public is a smear to the victim. I guess they're banking on weed being found in his apt will makehim the bad guy...

Did they even search the her apartment? And if so why publicize the findings from his apt and not hers?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 18:24:32 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Sep 17 17:00:38 2018.

That's a bit of a stretch to make him seem like a bad guy because he had weed in his own house. As for everything else, we weren't there so we don't know the facts as they are at the present moment, but I guarantee they know each other! I bet you he was her secret side piece of dick.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 18:26:16 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 18:24:32 2018.

But why try to dirty Jean up with the public, then?

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 18:33:59 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 18:26:16 2018.

Ask the media

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 21:39:45 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 18:26:16 2018.

because cops stick together. Even when they are wrong they stick together.

She was probably fucking this guy and he just wanted to use her as a white cum dump and on to the next black cock hungry white bitch.

Feeling superior to him because of her race, gender, and her status as a LEO, when she realized he just wanted to pump and dump, she became enraged and shot him.



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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 21:55:26 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 21:39:45 2018.

You can't get girls because you talk like that about them. Besides, you probably like dudes when you have that kind of outlook.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Sep 17 21:57:08 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 14:39:16 2018.

Type your posts like the rest of us, ya lazy bum! :)

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 22:00:59 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Sep 17 21:57:08 2018.

I took typing classes in high school, on the old Smith-Corona electrics. Computer keyboards still seem too easy by comparison.

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 22:01:28 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 21:55:26 2018.

her name is "Amber". that's like the ultimate trailer park amateur porn BBC queen name.

As for your attack on me, you can't debate my insights, so you attack me.

I like starting off the week with a w1n(in addition to Irish-Catholic party).

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 22:23:10 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 22:00:59 2018.

Did you go to booze parties with kids from typing class?



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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 22:38:10 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Sep 17 21:57:08 2018.

Sometimes I do!

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Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Sep 17 23:01:42 2018, in response to Re: The Character Assassination Of Botham Jean?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 22:00:59 2018.

My class had Underwood-Olevetti. Great little machines that could take the pounding the little hunt peckers could bang out.

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