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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by Fred G on Sat May 26 03:14:04 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat May 26 01:43:16 2018.

Zimmerman should have complied with the dispatchers request. He escalated the situation by stalking Martin.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by Fred G on Sat May 26 03:15:33 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by WayneJay on Fri May 25 22:57:44 2018.

This isn’t bad enough, in my opinion. Step on the gas, karma

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 03:31:34 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 25 21:32:56 2018.

What


LOL!

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by Fred G on Sat May 26 03:35:20 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat May 26 01:20:58 2018.

Taller yes but Zimmerman was beefier

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat May 26 03:40:25 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by Fred G on Sat May 26 03:15:33 2018.

IAWTP

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 03:41:35 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by WayneJay on Fri May 25 22:57:44 2018.

I haven't weighed in on this thread yet, so here I go. Zimmerman is an unstable piece of shit who deserves to be laying in the ground somewhere. Let's not forget besides this incident, he hits women, he fights the police, he keeps getting in trouble.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 03:47:16 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat May 26 01:32:51 2018.

Everything you said was true, but let's not forget that Zimmerman is a light skin black himself.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 04:24:56 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 03:41:35 2018.

Deserves to be laying in the ground?

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 06:44:27 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 04:24:56 2018.

Have you kept track of what he's been doing since that incident? He beats women, he fights with cops, and he's a well-known Menace. He's obviously not stable in the head.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by AlM on Sat May 26 06:51:54 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 26 02:46:14 2018.

Your thought process is too complicated.



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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?

Posted by AlM on Sat May 26 06:53:08 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 25 21:32:56 2018.

Stop wasting Larry's bandwidth.

You mean Larry might run out of 1s and 0s?


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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 26 08:11:29 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by AlM on Sat May 26 06:51:54 2018.

And people are confused by the fact that we on OTChat know more than the jury did.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by AlM on Sat May 26 08:35:15 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 26 08:11:29 2018.

I never followed the case that closely. What was the jury not told?


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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat May 26 09:21:35 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by Fred G on Sat May 26 03:14:04 2018.

Yes, as I said in a previous post.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 09:54:57 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 06:44:27 2018.

OK, all that maybe true, but do you believe Zimmerman murdered travon?

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 09:56:12 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 25 23:34:36 2018.

lol

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by AlM on Sat May 26 09:58:06 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 09:54:57 2018.

Murder implies intent. I really doubt Zimmerman had any intent to kill anyone. I do think it likely that he acted with reckless disregard for human life.


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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 10:10:53 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by AlM on Sat May 26 09:58:06 2018.



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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 26 10:27:58 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by AlM on Sat May 26 09:58:06 2018.

I think a case can be made that Zimmerman, once he had committed himself to chasing and attacking Martin, was prepared to use deadly force, which he did. Zimmerman also had time to consider his actions, as evidenced by his decision to disregard the police dispatcher's instructions, and take matters into his own hands.

I also believe the DA intentionally threw this case, for political reasons.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat May 26 10:47:17 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 03:31:34 2018.

Figures

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat May 26 10:52:53 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 09:54:57 2018.

My personal opinion is that a jury found him not guilty so that answers that question. Florida’s battery statutes carry substantial penalties, at the highest levels the same penalty as what Zimmerman was charged with. With the facts as they were it should have been an open and shut battery case versus a more difficult murder case.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by AlM on Sat May 26 12:03:39 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by Dave on Fri May 25 12:17:03 2018.

No attorney let's a client run up a fee that large w/o payment.

I'm not convinced.

Some of his attorneys may have thought the notoriety was worth it, and/or if things had turned out differently Zimmerman could have won a civil suit where they could have gotten paid.

It's just one step further than taking a very chancy civil suit on a contingency basis.



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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 26 12:15:43 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt—a whole page of this stupid thread?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 03:31:34 2018.

Logging onto the site and seeing nothing but this thread and a mere two respondents for the whole page is just too much.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:32:49 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 26 02:46:14 2018.

IAWTP

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:33:36 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:32:49 2018.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:33:38 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 09:54:57 2018.

IN COLD BLOOD MURDER

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:33:57 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:33:38 2018.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:34:44 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 26 10:27:58 2018.

IAWTP

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:35:13 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:33:36 2018.

WAKE UP WHITE MAN

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:35:33 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:33:57 2018.

WAKE UP WHITE MAN

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:37:47 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:34:44 2018.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:38:10 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:35:13 2018.

Racist post.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:38:18 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:35:33 2018.

Racist post.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:38:50 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:37:47 2018.

wake up white man

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:39:10 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:38:18 2018.

you are

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:46:28 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:39:10 2018.

No, you're an idiot!

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:47:03 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:35:13 2018.

Figures

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:47:27 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:46:28 2018.

you

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 26 12:47:41 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 12:47:03 2018.

WHAT

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by WayneJay on Sat May 26 13:04:36 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat May 26 01:43:16 2018.

I disagree. No one is saying that Trayvon Martin was a totally innocent. However, in terms of the facts that we know for him at that time... Walking along minding his business... He was very much as innocent as anyone else as he wasn't doing anything wrong. Do I think Zimmerman's actions were motivated by racism?... Absolutely! I realize that it's speculation, but I'd also say that had he been anything other than black (or latino) in the same situation... Nothing takes place. Of course no one can say what would've happened had Zimmerman followed the instruction from the police dispatcher, but as we know Zimmerman chose to ignore the dispatcher's instruction. So my thing is... whatever Zimmerman says about being in danger and so on... He himself is responsible for not standing down as instructed.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by WayneJay on Sat May 26 13:10:42 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 03:47:16 2018.

Agreed, but I've seen plenty of racism against a POC by another POC. An example is the university where I'm employed. Two department directors found that the deputy director of public safety would routinely profile student events that were organized by black or latino students.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat May 26 13:23:25 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 26 10:27:58 2018.

Iawtp. They didn't even want to charge him and only finally did due to the outrage. The fix was in from the very beginning.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 13:50:04 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat May 26 13:23:25 2018.

No, and only finally did due to the race hustlers.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 14:18:34 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by WayneJay on Sat May 26 13:04:36 2018.

Which is surprising because he must be self-hating as a black Hispanic himself. He is an unstable asshole who should be in jail as we speak.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 14:20:30 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by WayneJay on Sat May 26 13:10:42 2018.

That's true, and white people also do the same thing

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by WayneJay on Sat May 26 14:40:07 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 14:18:34 2018.

Agreed!

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by WayneJay on Sat May 26 15:03:08 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 14:20:30 2018.

Agreed! I think MLK said it best in that we all should be judged on the contents of our character. Sadly, his dream hasn't not been realized, and I'm not optimistic that it will be in my lifetime.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 15:03:09 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 14:18:34 2018.



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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 15:08:37 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 15:03:09 2018.

I know you disagree with me on this, but he is unsteady and should have never been allowed to be around firearms in the first place and his behavior before and after the Trayvon Martin incident proves this. He's troubled.

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Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 26 15:12:41 2018, in response to Re: Zimmerman says he's 2.5M in debt, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 26 15:08:37 2018.

John's on Bleeker St, Monday July 23?

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