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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:28:30 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:22:08 2018.

I see people like that. The Starbucks closest to me has a guy in a suit that sets up with a laptop when they open at 5am. I see him there all day, everyday. I guess that he operates his business from there, but he does buy lots of stuff.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 21:29:22 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:25:53 2018.

You don't understand the mindset of those ruling over you in LA and CA, do you.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:47:42 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 21:13:42 2018.

Free wifi too!

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:47:45 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 21:29:22 2018.

I actually don’t understand. Most people don’t.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:48:31 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:28:30 2018.

Yep.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Dave on Sat May 19 22:20:03 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:07:51 2018.

There's a difference between strong coffee and over-roasted beans.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 22:29:14 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Dave on Sat May 19 22:20:03 2018.

True.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat May 19 22:41:31 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:25:53 2018.

Excellent. The left coast deserves the fine result of what Liberalism has created. Plague is next.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat May 19 22:43:50 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 19 19:06:10 2018.

I do think that Starbucks will start charging for wi-fi, though.

It's pretty slow.

LinkNYC is worth a special trip.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 19 23:24:56 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat May 19 22:41:31 2018.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat May 19 23:44:09 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 21:29:22 2018.

Well, Jerry (Brown) is gone after this year (though if current Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsome is elected, he may be an even bigger idiot that Jerry 2.0. He was anti-Muni when he was mayor of SF, which put him on my shit list). Garcetti, L. A. is stuck with for awhile, not only was he re-elected, but to a longer term (I think L. A. wanted to get the mayorla election in line with either the Presidential or the Gubernatorial elections).

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 20 08:58:22 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 19 19:09:15 2018.

I disagree. As someone who would try and buy the cheapest item available (usually fruit) to avoid argument while I would use the wifi / restroom, having to dispense with that formality will make my Starbucks experience much more pleasant.

Funny thing is whenever I do buy something there intentionally I get it to-go anyway.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 20 09:04:33 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 19 19:06:10 2018.

I do think that Starbucks will start charging for wi-fi, though.

Or they could do some variant to how chick fil a does their bathroom access - print a code on the receipt for wifi. Make them one time use so no sharing, and good for, say, 15 minutes per item purchased. Only way to get a new code is to buy another muffin or something.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun May 20 09:11:42 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 20 09:04:33 2018.

Or keep the password the same but it prints your username on your receipt and the system knows that a specific character in the username represents the number of items purchased.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Easy on Sun May 20 10:21:02 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 20 09:04:33 2018.

That doesn’t make any sense considering that they just announced that their official policy is to allow anyone to use restrooms regardless of whether they purchased anything.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by bingbong on Sun May 20 13:49:35 2018, in response to New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 18:21:39 2018.

LOL! Not. Interesting reverse psychology. I'm sure the guilt many people will feel at not buying something will actually cause them to buy more. Keeping some cinnamon scented candles/oils going will also help in that respect.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 20 14:15:38 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 20:59:33 2018.

That's exactly correct

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 20 14:17:27 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 19 19:13:38 2018.

The whole place will be filled up with loiterors, and no place to sit for actual customers. It won't effect me, as I rarely sat there, usually just buy and leave anyway, but I can see it unpleasant for actual customers.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 20 14:20:14 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 20:15:57 2018.

Exactly! I just said the same thing. How can anyone think this policy won't be unpleasant for actual paying customers?

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 20 14:20:33 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 20:52:51 2018.

Exactly.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 20 14:21:22 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 20 14:17:27 2018.

IAWTP

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 20 16:19:30 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 20 08:58:22 2018.

As someone who would try and buy the cheapest item available (usually fruit) to avoid argument while I would use the wifi / restroom, having to dispense with that formality will make my Starbucks experience much more pleasant

Sure about that? You really convinced that your "company" will not change due to this policy? Think again.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun May 20 16:29:07 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 20 16:19:30 2018.

IAWTP

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 20 17:44:22 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 20 14:20:14 2018.

We live in Bizarro world nowadays, with a hard-working people get punished and the loafers get everything.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Easy on Sun May 20 18:32:53 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 20 14:20:14 2018.

I have plenty other coffee options, but Starbucks is the only one open when I leave for work. And I never hang around inside so hopefully this won’t impact me.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun May 20 19:33:16 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sun May 20 18:32:53 2018.

Yeah I never sit there either. Just buy and leave, but there are plenty that like to buy their stuff and casually enjoy. But if the whole place is filled with people loitering, it can't possibly be pleasant for paying customers with no place to sit.

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Rescinded (New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms…)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 3 17:20:09 2025, in response to New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 18:21:39 2018.

Cable News Network

Starbucks ends its ‘open-door’ policies

Starbucks doesn’t want to be America’s public bathroom anymore.

Starbucks is scrapping a policy that had let anyone hang out at its cafes or use the restrooms without making a purchase. The new rules are part of a larger effort to improve Starbucks’ cafe experience and deter homeless people and non-paying customers who have come to use Starbucks solely for shelter and bathroom access – but they reverse a policy that was put in place after one of the company’s biggest-ever PR disasters.

The new code of conduct, announced to stores Monday, is part of CEO Brian Niccol’s strategy to lure back customers, boost sagging sales and improve worker relations. It applies to all locations in North America and will be displayed on store doors.

The changes are a “practical step that helps us prioritize our paying customers who want to sit and enjoy our cafes or need to use the restroom during their visit,” said a Starbucks spokesperson in a statement. “By setting clear expectations for behavior and use of our spaces, we can create a better environment for everyone.”

Other changes include a ban on panhandling, discrimination, consuming outside alcohol and vaping, according to the policy posted online. Employees will receive training on the new policy.

Starbucks is also trying to incentivize customers to stay in its cafes instead of ordering to-go by giving perks for in-store orders. Beginning January 27, all customers can get one free hot or iced coffee refill served in its ceramic mugs or reusable glasses. Previously, the perk only applied to members of Starbucks’ loyalty program.

Starbucks’ move is a reversal of its on-and-off relationship offering bathroom access to the general public.

Limiting restroom access comes at a time when many US cities and suburbs lack adequate public access to them. That has left private companies like Starbucks, McDonald’s and other chains to fill the void.

Opening restrooms and cafes to the general public has helped Starbucks brand itself as a “third place” between work and home and bring potential customers through the door. However, the policy has created challenges for employees and customers alike.

The open-door policy began in 2018 after two black men were arrested at a Philadelphia location while waiting for a friend. One of the men said he asked to use the restroom shortly after walking in and was told it was only for paying customers. The incident was caught on camera and morphed into a PR disaster for Starbucks.

In 2022, Starbucks’ former CEO Howard Schultz said it might not be able to keep its bathrooms open, blaming a growing mental health problem that poses a threat to its staff and customers. That same year, Starbucks closed more than a dozen locations, primarily located in downtown spots, citing safety concerns.

“This is another example of the complications caused by the lack of public bathrooms in the US, and of Starbucks shifting its tune — benefitting at times from the lack of public infrastructure and being hurt by the same things,” said Bryant Simon, a historian at Temple University who has written a book on Starbucks and is currently working on one about public bathrooms in the United States.

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Re: Rescinded (New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms…)

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Feb 4 00:30:26 2025, in response to Rescinded (New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms…), posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 3 17:20:09 2025.

"The open-door policy began in 2018 after two black men were arrested at a Philadelphia location while waiting for a friend. One of the men said he asked to use the restroom shortly after walking in and was told it was only for paying customers. The incident was caught on camera and morphed into a PR disaster for Starbucks."

I'm amazed that this article actually dared to point out when the policy started!

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Re: Rescinded (New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms…)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 4 01:30:22 2025, in response to Re: Rescinded (New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms…), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Feb 4 00:30:26 2025.

They're still capitalizing "black", so I changed that. Yes, deliberately.

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Re: Rescinded (New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms…)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 19 05:54:37 2025, in response to Rescinded (New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms…), posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 3 17:20:09 2025.

Bump.

JayZee's "waiting while black" is just another lie in a series of nauseating lies he told over the years.

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Re: Rescinded (New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms…)

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 18 14:17:33 2025, in response to Rescinded (New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms…), posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 3 17:20:09 2025.

bump

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