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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 15:52:29 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 15:30:58 2018.

Oops hoops
Here we go again

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 15:54:45 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 16 15:51:39 2018.

Yes and JZ has an agenda too. To seek out "facts" that bolster his claims and ignore & dismiss those that do not!

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:56:22 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:49:32 2018.

If anybody finds out my last name they think I'm a Nazi! LOL

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:57:06 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:56:22 2018.

Ha! been there done that.

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 16:00:09 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:57:06 2018.

I tell them I can nazi the resemblance!

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 16:00:40 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:57:06 2018.

I tell them I can nazi the resemblance!

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 16:00:43 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:57:06 2018.

I tell them I can nazi the resemblance!

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 16:00:43 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:57:06 2018.

I tell them I can nazi the resemblance!

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 16:09:48 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 16:00:40 2018.

That made me führious

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 16:14:55 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 15:54:45 2018.

What "facts" do not support the multiple accounts of the incident, which I have posted throughout this thread?

Inb4 Yawwwn.

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 17:09:02 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:50:36 2018.

Yeah the same type of people that would make stuff up for attention

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 17:09:23 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:52:29 2018.

Attention whores

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 17:14:45 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 16:14:55 2018.

Yawwwn anyway

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 18:19:02 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 17:09:02 2018.

Really, you don’t have any evidence for your argument so you’re relying on projection. I’m more inclined to believe someone who was there.



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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 18:19:57 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 17:09:23 2018.

Yeah they paid attention to what was going on

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 18:30:40 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 18:19:57 2018.

Yes of course, and knew everything that everyone ordered and how long they were there

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 18:44:46 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 18:30:40 2018.

It’s entirely possible that they did. Can you prove that it is an impossibility? No you can’t
Do you have any proof to the opposite? No you don’t

I think we are all seeing your agenda coming through here


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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 16 19:10:09 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 18:44:46 2018.

Fred, he is Mr Centrist I am sure his reasons are totally noble

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 20:14:57 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 16 19:10:09 2018.

Some people believe that the cops are always correct and by extension those who call them are also correct. The idea is that those guys had to have done something wrong. Doesn’t matter what but just something to deserve what they got

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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 21:10:00 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 20:14:57 2018.

??????
I would have been nothing to do withtge could ps either way. They were called.

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New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 18:21:39 2018, in response to 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Waiting While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 14 12:12:38 2018.

Well, maybe libraries will become more user-friendly as a result. (For actual users of the library.) “SBux”, however, is doomed.

AP via ABC News

New Starbucks policy: No purchase needed to sit in its cafés

By Joe Pisani, AP Retail Writer
Nᴇᴡ Yᴏʀᴋ—May 19, 2018, 1:01 PM ET
Starbucks announced a new policy Saturday that allows anyone to sit in its cafés or use its restrooms, even if they don’t buy anything.

The new policy comes five weeks after two black men who hadn’t bought anything were arrested at a Philadelphia Starbucks.

Company executives have said its previous policies were loose and ambiguous, leaving decisions on whether people could sit in its stores or use the restroom up to store managers.

Starbucks said it has told workers to consider anyone who walks into its stores a customer, “regardless of whether they make a purchase.”

The company said anyone can use its cafés, patios or restrooms without buying anything, but it noted workers should still call the police if someone is a safety threat.

“We are committed to creating a culture of warmth and belonging where everyone is welcome,” Starbucks said in a statement.

The two men who were arrested April 12 in Philadelphia were awaiting a third person for a meeting. One of them was denied use of a restroom because he hadn’t bought anything. A worker called police, and the men, Rashon Nelson and Donte Robinson, were arrested. They spent hours in jail before they were released.

The incident, video of which was posted on social media, was a major embarrassment for the coffee chain. Starbucks has long projected itself as a socially conscious company and promoted its stores as a neighborhood gathering place.

In response to the arrests, Starbucks plans to close more than 8,000 of its U.S. stores on the afternoon of May 29 for racial-bias training for its employees.

The men who were arrested settled with Starbucks earlier this month for an undisclosed sum and an offer of a free college education. They also reached a deal with Philadelphia for a symbolic $1 each and a promise from city officials to set up a $200,000 program for young entrepreneurs.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 19 18:22:56 2018, in response to New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 18:21:39 2018.

i usually buy some coffee

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 19 18:51:40 2018, in response to New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 18:21:39 2018.

Sad

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 19 18:59:40 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 19 18:22:56 2018.

Their coffee sucks and too expensive.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 19 19:03:15 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 19 18:59:40 2018.

it is kinda strong

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 19 19:05:30 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 19 18:59:40 2018.

I have a Starbucks gold card and earn rewards out the wazoo. But I only go there about twice a month or so.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 19 19:06:10 2018, in response to New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 18:21:39 2018.

Starbucks is not "doomed" at all. In fact, I believe this policy will actually boost business, especially if the company has the presence of mind to expand their menu with a greater selection of tempting items.

I once got stuck in an airport coming home, because the equipment I was to fly on broke down at its origin. I did what most of my fellow passengers did while the airline tried to get another airplane out to us...I stuffed my face with overpriced airport food. People might come to Starbucks to hang out, but most of them will make purchases while they are there. Even if you plan to spend all day banging away on SubChat with your laptop, you will get hungry or thirsty. You'll buy something.

I do think that Starbucks will start charging for wi-fi, though.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by AlM on Sat May 19 19:08:12 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 19 18:51:40 2018.

Why? It's presumably part of their business model.

Surprising, yes, because it doesn't seem well designed to increase business. But they won't be the first company to ever enact an unwise business policy.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 19 19:09:15 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by AlM on Sat May 19 19:08:12 2018.

I find it sad because I think it will make their stores less pleasant.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 19 19:13:38 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 19 19:09:15 2018.

In what way?

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 20:15:57 2018, in response to New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 18:21:39 2018.

Starbucks in NYC already has an occupancy issue.

People make a purchase and then loiter for hours while on their computers making it hard to impossible for a customer who wants to sit and have a coffee for 10 minutes.

I gave up on Starbucks about 10 years ago.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 20:17:48 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 19 19:09:15 2018.

I did not think their NYC stores could get any more unpleasant.

People already go there and sit for hours in NYC.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 19 20:26:47 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 20:17:48 2018.

IAWTP

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 19 20:27:05 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 19 19:13:38 2018.

See LuchAAA's accurate post.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 20:52:51 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 20:15:57 2018.

I live in an area with a severe homeless/drug addicted population. If they are loitering in Starbucks all day and showering in the bathrooms, regular customers will be avoiding.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 20:57:37 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 20:52:51 2018.

yeah, depending on where you are, Starbucks might be a normal coffee experience or a frustrating one where you vow to never go to Starbucks again.

In some parts of the country they are building stand-alone with drive-thru, and very few people indoors. Mostly vehicle revenue.

Starbucks is now a fast food chain like Dunkin Donuts.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Dave on Sat May 19 20:59:28 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 19 19:03:15 2018.

Charbucks!

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 20:59:33 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by AlM on Sat May 19 19:08:12 2018.

Having it as an unofficial policy made sense. Having it as an official policy will lead to abuse.

I wonder how they will handle smelly, mentally ill or drug addicted hanging out brining in lots of trash and not buying anything?

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 21:03:49 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 20:59:33 2018.

Probably give them a cup of coffee and snack as bribery to leave.

Homeless do that.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:06:22 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 20:57:37 2018.

I have two Starbucks within a 90 second walk. Four within a 5 minute walk. All of those have outdoor seating and at least three of them have problems keeping the outdoor seating from becoming homeless hangouts. I wonder how this policy will play out. Maybe they will be the new drug dens. Like 7-eleven with comfortable seating.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:07:13 2018, in response to New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 19 18:21:39 2018.

Needless pandering...

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:07:51 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Dave on Sat May 19 20:59:28 2018.

I LOVE strong coffee.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:09:03 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 19 19:03:15 2018.

I like my coffee like my men, black and atrong!

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:09:39 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 19 19:03:15 2018.

I like my coffee like my men, black and strong!

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:10:40 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by AlM on Sat May 19 19:08:12 2018.

It's pandering. Business and profits be damned!

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:11:36 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:09:39 2018.

You two get a room, lol

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 21:12:56 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:06:22 2018.

my guess is some homeless will push the envelope and use the bathrooms.

In most of NYC, overcrowding is already severe and signs say "Restrooms for customers only" and I wonder if that will change?

Maybe customers will complain to corporate and threaten to buy coffee elsewhere?

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 21:13:42 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:11:36 2018.

a room?

Under the new policy, they can do it on the sofa a Starbucks.

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 19 21:22:08 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 19 19:06:10 2018.

The wifi charge will get rid of the "shnorers" who hang around all day for the free wifi

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Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required

Posted by Easy on Sat May 19 21:25:53 2018, in response to Re: New Starbucks policy will permit loitering in stores and use of restrooms, no purchase required, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 19 21:12:56 2018.

Starbucks actually closed some restrooms in downtown LA to everyone, even customers, because the homeless issue had gotten so bad. They announced that they were reopening those restrooms a week or two ago.

Unless LA starts to deal with our homeless situation, it may make operating businesses like Starbucks impossible. So far LA has talked about the homeless issue, and we’ve passed a billion dollar bond, but nothing concrete so far.


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