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Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 16 09:27:19 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 15 18:43:52 2018. And that girl telling the police she's been there two hours without buying anything is totally irrelevant to the storyIt's irrelevant to the police conduct, which seems to have been standard. It's not irrelevant to the story, which is that this Starbucks only asked black customers who weren't purchasing anything to leave, not white customers who weren't purchasing anything. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 09:28:46 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by AlM on Mon Apr 16 09:27:19 2018. alm banging the racial war drums |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 09:32:39 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 09:28:46 2018. No he’s giving account of what evidently happened |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 16 09:33:54 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by AlM on Mon Apr 16 09:25:14 2018. Which is the problem, being asked to leave is ok as well if the are asking every person who didnt make a purchase to leave. The explicit bias is the issue here. Thats why Starbucks is scrambling. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 09:43:14 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 09:28:46 2018. No, he is staying the facts. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 16 09:48:43 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 09:20:47 2018. Did I say you made such an assessment sir?You should follow your own advice. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 16 09:51:38 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 09:28:46 2018. Staying a fact is not beating racial war drums,He never made such an assessment, you should improve your reading comprehension skills |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Apr 16 10:30:04 2018, in response to 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Waiting While Black, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 14 12:12:38 2018. Just a thought. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 10:42:37 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 09:32:39 2018. What might have happened! |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 10:43:02 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 09:43:14 2018. Double yawwwwn |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 11:22:13 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 10:42:37 2018. No, what actually did happen. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 11:23:05 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 11:22:13 2018. Double yawwwn |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 12:54:38 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 16 09:33:54 2018. The store manager walked the plank and Starbucks has apologized. They're done and don't let it happen again. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 12:56:45 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 10:42:37 2018. Based on eyewitness testimony, did happen. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Apr 16 13:04:04 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 12:54:38 2018. Yep, it was described as a “mutual decision.”Reality is “you gonna die if you stay here” |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 13:21:13 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 12:56:45 2018. Again, eyewitness accounts in these sort of cases are notoriously unreliable. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 13:29:09 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by AlM on Mon Apr 16 09:27:19 2018. The problem with your statement is we don't know that. Throughout the course of the day they could have told white customers or Asian customers the exact same thing. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 13:44:45 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 11:22:13 2018. No, what might have happened. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 13:47:20 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 12:56:45 2018. Who of course were noting every transaction and person that was there up to the point of when this started. I know of course your average person sits somewhere, just noting everyone buying things, what the bought, and where they went the whole time they are there. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 13:56:46 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 13:29:09 2018. +7 |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:15:41 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Apr 16 13:21:13 2018. Except when they fit your narrative.Triple yawwwn. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 14:17:29 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 13:29:09 2018. That's exactly the case. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 14:18:05 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:15:41 2018. And of course, what you are pushing fits your narrative. Things can be twisted anyway someone wants to depending on their agenda. That's all. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:23:06 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 16 14:18:05 2018. What I am "pushing" are the facts. You seem to think that multiple eyewitnesses, complete strangers all, are conspiring to concoct a version of events that fits some "agenda" you think I have. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:24:57 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 13:29:09 2018. Highly unlikely. We already know of at least one instance, where a white patron, concurrent with the presence of the Black customers in the store, was treated in a completely different way. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 14:27:30 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:24:57 2018. Why is that highly unlikely? We weren't there. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 14:43:46 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:23:06 2018. I "think" you have? No you do have. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 14:44:35 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:24:57 2018. How can you just assume out of the airport, "highly unlikely"???? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:53:02 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 14:44:35 2018. Because, as I said, we already know of at least one concurrent example of a white patron receiving different treatment than the Black patrons. Given that fact, do you really think other white patrons would have been treated the way the Black patrons were? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:04:04 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:53:02 2018. If they caused issues, of course. I have been told all the time that the bathroom key or code is for patrons only. Do you think you just get a free pass for free bathroom yse just being white? Come on, |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 16 15:15:29 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:04:04 2018. At this particular Starbucks? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 15:18:12 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:04:04 2018. White people get a "free pass" for a lot of things in our society, that are regularly denied to other groups, and that is a matter of historical and contemporary fact. Why would eyewitnesses at this particular Starbucks lie about such a thing? How does it benefit them to admit that white privilege was in operation there? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 15:30:58 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 13:44:45 2018. I suppose these other recent incidents of racial profiling around the country, also only "might" have happened, too. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:37:29 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 14:53:02 2018. Jaybong, you are basing your entire string of evidence on some chick who just said she was sitting there. Did she ask to go to the bathroom? Also, who the fuck goes into a restaurant and takes notes of what other people ordered? Especially in a Starbucks. No one, that's cool. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:38:08 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:04:04 2018. I see there are actually people in 2018 that think the world exists from that 1984 Eddie Murphy skit he didn't sign at life where he went undercover as a white guy. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:38:32 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:37:29 2018. Exactly, that's the point. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:39:28 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 15:18:12 2018. It's a white person society that we live in, so we don't even get a pass because Western Civilization is ours and it was tailored for us. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:39:32 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 15:18:12 2018. That's true. You should try it with a German surname 🤯 |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:39:56 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 16 15:18:12 2018. Again, you think just being white means you just get the key without buying anything? Please |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:40:24 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:37:29 2018. Have you been to a Starbucks? You can see everyone from one seat. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:44:27 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:40:24 2018. I understand that, but nobody looks at every table to see what people are eating and drinking or taking inventory if they ordered food or not. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:45:07 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:39:32 2018. What do I get with my German surname? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:47:45 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 13:47:20 2018. If you're in line you watch the person(s) in front of you like a hawk. Besides, people check out other people all the time. We're talking a small store, not a bowling alley.Besides, why would you dispute an eyewitness account that's on record without being there yourself? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:48:44 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:44:27 2018. You can see an empty table or no coffee cup. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:49:18 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:48:44 2018. But who takes note of that or even notices? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:49:32 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:45:07 2018. Dunno but I've got technical profession + surname = win |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:50:12 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:47:45 2018. ????? She didn't say on line, and no, I don't pay attention to what people in front of me are buying. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 16 15:50:36 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:49:18 2018. Nosy people do all the time. Not just at Starbucks but at restaurant and bars. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 16 15:51:39 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 14:43:46 2018. You have an obvious agenda at this point. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Apr 16 15:52:29 2018, in response to Re: 2 Men Arrested In Philly Sbux For Loitering and refusing to leave., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Apr 16 15:49:18 2018. Apparently the white do gooder social justice Warriors. |
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