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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 09:26:34 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:19:39 2016.

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But you can't say what it is that the DNC actually did that harmed Sanders.



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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 29 09:29:38 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 09:26:34 2016.

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Considering the lack of integrity of the average DemocRAT, there is no damage noted

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by MTK52983 on Fri Jul 29 09:33:52 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 28 21:29:53 2016.

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Personally I dislike both, but I am scared of Trump more because there is no filter to check his impulsiveness. Clinton is the devil I know (because you will just get the same tired repeat of her husband's policies and Obama's policies) versus Trump as the devil I don't. I am seriously considering the platform of Gary Johnson in this election.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 29 09:41:26 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:08:15 2016.

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And the Republican Party nominated Donald Trump for President.

If so many Americans weren't fucking idiots, the party would have gone the way of the Whigs by now.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 09:42:02 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by MTK52983 on Fri Jul 29 09:33:52 2016.

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Good viewpoint if you can't stand moderately liberal policies a la Clinton/Obama, as long as you don't live in a swing state.

If you live in FL, PA, NH, IA, or NV (I'm assuming CO and VA are OK for Clinton if it's a close race), enough people with your attitude will elect Trump President.



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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:43:55 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 08:51:13 2016.

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It was actually a well thought out and executed work of stagecraft. Not only was it informative, it was entertainig, with all the musical acts interspersed,. Plus the fireworks were so cool.....especially knowing Trump wanted the same but the RNc would not let him do it due to the stage design. Plus it was obviously a smaller arena.

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:46:43 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:04:45 2016.

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She had plenty to say about the programs she's structured, how they will benefit all Americans. Trump, not so much. All he did was talk about how f*cked up everything is. Then he goes and claims that only he alone can fix this? How exactly? Herad nothing but crickets to that one.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:48:07 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 21:58:15 2016.

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Its pathetic the two choices in this election.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:48:51 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 29 09:41:26 2016.

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After this, it just might.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:49:02 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 28 21:55:12 2016.

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That doesn't mean it isn't completely wrong. What if during segregation people LIKE YOU would say, "That's how it is".

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:49:58 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 28 21:38:12 2016.

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The sad truth.

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:50:37 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 29 07:22:42 2016.

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You're the only person even thking that.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 29 09:51:18 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 29 08:56:23 2016.

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That's OK. His "supporters" comforted themselves by "berning" Israeli flags and chanting "Death to the US empire" and such.

The same protesters were also "berning" Sanders posters, so I don't think they were Sanders supporters.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:51:21 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:48:51 2016.

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Not necessarily. The Democratic party also has severe problems right now.

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:52:05 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:43:55 2016.

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LOL!!!!

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:52:21 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:07:19 2016.

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It spoke for itself just fine. That it came off smooth and polished and for the Democrats, orderly is deserving of praise. A flat-out excellent production!

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 29 09:52:57 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:43:55 2016.

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Plus the fireworks were so cool...

The fireworks seemed a little delayed, considering the song that preceded them...

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:53:18 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:50:37 2016.

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NO, actually he's not.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 29 09:54:03 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:49:02 2016.

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My first involvement in politics was at age 8, when I volunteered to hand out literature in Riverdale for Jonathan C Bingham for Congress. My family was as republican as it got, Bingham was a democrat. But we were all tired of the antics of Charles ("Boss") Buckley in the Bronx.

When I got out of school, went straight into reporting politics on the radio. This *IS* how it is, how it always has been, and despite decades of trying to persuade people to get off their asses and DO something about it, it still continues all these years later.

Like I said to the turtle, if it bothers you, then get off your ass and fight it. Crickets continue.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by MTK52983 on Fri Jul 29 09:54:13 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 09:42:02 2016.

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I don't live in any of the states you listed, but there are aspects of Clinton/Obama policies which Hillary will continue that are quite leftist and not in the Olog-hai definition of leftist. We cannot continue to denounce the police and glorify criminals who are dead because they tried to attack police. We cannot continue to curry favor with Communists and Muslim extremists while denouncing our allies. We cannot turn a blind eye to the fact that if you look who is attacking the United States and democracies across the globe, it is Muslim fundamentalists. I disagree with Trump's proposed solution to the problem as it is vastly overreaching, but we cannot just short circuit the vetting process as the Obama administration wants to do. We need sensible gun control legislation, but there is nothing sensible at the solutions put forward by the Democrats which will strip away the rights of law-abiding gun owners who want a gun for self-defense, which is their right under the Constitution. I am not talking about owning military grade weapons or automatic weapons, but if I am a law abiding citizen who can pass all of the necessary background checks I should be able to own a handgun if I want to.

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:55:06 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 09:52:21 2016.

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And as I said, the more people like you feel the need to HAVE to praise, defend, and popup, the lamer and in need of help in reality it was. A good presentation doesn't need the clowns in the background feeling the need to tell everyone how wonderful it was.

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:55:45 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 29 09:52:57 2016.

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AKA, forced.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:56:44 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 29 09:54:03 2016.

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That's wonderful. But as I said, your analogy reminds me of anyone in any time needing change chanting "Well this is how it is and how it always was". How "Conservative" of you.

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 29 10:01:38 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:03:11 2016.

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There's nothing in those emails that is in any way different than what BOTH political parties do every election season.

Basically the e-mails just exposed politics as being dirty, but any sane person would already know that.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 29 10:02:29 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:51:21 2016.

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Not nearly as severe as NOMINATING DONALD TRUMP!

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 29 10:04:10 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:51:21 2016.

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Not really.

They ended their convention as a fairly united front.

The GOP has more issues.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:06:37 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by MTK52983 on Fri Jul 29 09:54:13 2016.

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Obama is waging extensive war against Muslim fundamentalists. It's Trump who is saying we should pull back.

The vetting process for letting refugees into this country is extremely long and detailed. What parts of it do you want strengthened?

What is Clinton proposing in terms of gun control that offends you so much? Do you think that CT and NY laws are so repressive that reasonable people can't defend themselves? She's not asking for anything stronger, and the Supreme Court has upheld those laws by declining to review them.








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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 29 10:06:53 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by R2Chinatown on Thu Jul 28 23:18:40 2016.

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You mean this guy?.



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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 29 10:08:25 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:06:37 2016.

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What's the point in arguing.

He's just going to re-hash the talking points he saw on Fox News, heard from Limbaugh, or read on Breitbart.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 29 10:10:29 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:56:44 2016.

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Take some action then. Get involved politically. Let the powers that be know. Sitting on your ass and whining accomplishes nothing. That was my point.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:10:47 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by R2Chinatown on Thu Jul 28 23:18:40 2016.

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How about her father in law being a criminal?

You don't want to go there. Trump has criminals and members of criminal organizations in his family too.




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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 29 10:11:08 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:51:21 2016.

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Not necessarily. The Democratic party also has severe problems right now.

The Democratic Party's "problem" is it had an Independent candidate running as a Democrat in the primaries, who brought a whole lot of supporters under the Democratic tent who would have otherwise been strictly third party or completely uninterested. As a result, you have a small fraction of those people disillusioned and going home, and a much larger number - including Sanders himself - now supporting the mainstream candidate.

The Republicans nominated a demagogue who now has mainstream voices in the party, including a couple of primary opponents, actively campaigning against him. That's a much yuuuuger problem.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 29 10:11:30 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 28 16:48:34 2016.

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If the DNC had used surreptitious methods to suggest to Southern voters that Sanders was really an atheist, that would have been reprehensible. But they didn't.

Here

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 29 10:11:31 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:55:45 2016.

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AKA, forced.

Huh?

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 29 10:16:01 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 29 10:11:08 2016.

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Exactly.

The Republican governor of the state where the Republican convention was held wouldn't attend the convention.

That's a HUGE problem.

I don't see where there really are major issues for the Democrats.

Most, if not all, of the Sanders supporters that I know are now supporting Hillary as Trump is 100% against everything they believe in.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:16:19 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 29 10:11:30 2016.

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How much did Debbie pay you for that post?


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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by MTK52983 on Fri Jul 29 10:16:29 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:06:37 2016.

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1) Then why is he supporting "Palestinans" and Muslim Brotherhood candidates in Turkey, Egypt, etc.?

2) I think our vetting process is good. Obama/Clinton would short circuit that process to "resettle refugees" notwithstanding the fact that they have been committing crimes in France, Germany, etc.

3) Clinton has promised judges who would overrule Heller and McDonald, which explicitly stated that you cannot ban ordinary weapons for self-defense in the home or otherwise.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 29 10:17:14 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 29 09:54:03 2016.

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So where does being a motorman happen? C

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 29 10:20:47 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:16:19 2016.

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How much did Debbie pay you for that post?

Boris is looking through the e-mails to get your answer.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 29 10:21:11 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:10:47 2016.

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Don't speak for me, weasel. I do want to go there.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 29 10:35:23 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 29 10:21:11 2016.

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I do want to go there.

So let' go there then.

Let's talk about Ivanka's father-in-law.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:36:31 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by MTK52983 on Fri Jul 29 10:16:29 2016.

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1) Huh? There are no good candidates in Turkey and Egypt. Erdogan is an Islamist but the coup supporters were even more of Islamists.

2) Link to a proposal to short circuit the vetting process?

3) Link? I've never seen Clinton saying she wants the Court to overturn Heller. People claim that's what she wants, but that is political posturing.




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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:39:35 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 29 10:35:23 2016.

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And there is also Melania, whose modeling career was made possible by her father's membership in a criminal organization.

If her father had been an ordinary shlub without privileges, she'd still be Melanija Knavs living in Sevnica, Slovenia.



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Re: Trump Commits Treason?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 29 10:40:09 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:03:11 2016.

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pwnt.

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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:42:31 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 29 10:21:11 2016.

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Trump's father-in-law was a member of a corrupt, criminal organization. His membership made Melania's career possible.




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Re: Trump Commits Treason?

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:43:01 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 29 10:40:09 2016.

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LOL.

He doesn't even know what emails he's talking about.



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Re: DNC Night # 3

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jul 29 10:47:16 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # 3, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 29 10:16:19 2016.

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How much did Debbie pay you for that post?

She sent me a check of twenty-seven dollars.

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 11:06:02 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:53:18 2016.

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So know we know there's two zero fun people here. So sad to live so soured for fun. Turtle, I can understand. He has handicapping issues. But you?

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Re: Trump Commits Treason

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 29 11:07:57 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 29 10:01:38 2016.

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And if you believe that the RNC did not try their best to prevent the Trump nomination, I have a bridge to sell you.

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Re: DNC Night # Wow!

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 29 11:08:12 2016, in response to Re: DNC Night # Wow!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 29 09:55:06 2016.

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Nobody's praising the republicans becuse their convention sucked. Face facts.

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