Home · Maps · About

Home > OTChat

[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]

[1 2 3 4 5 6]

< Previous Page  

Page 4 of 6

Next Page >  

(1377808)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 11:23:53 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 8 10:57:58 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Statistics don't "prove" a particular POV, they demonstrate information that can be interpreted along with other information.

Anyway, the statistics (2003) show that blacks killed by police are about 35% of the blacks & whites combined killed by police. Blacks are something around 12% of the population.

But ... (same 2003 FBI info) the overall number of blacks murdered (2,491) vs. whites murdered (3,005) means that more than 45% of murder victims are black.

And ... of the perpetrators of the murders (total 5,499 B & W) 2,654 (48%) were black yet 35% of those killed by police were black.

So now what do the statistics "prove"?

And why do you find the police shooting statistics as "basis for all of the anger and the #blacklivesmatter movement."

What it shows me once again is that police shooting of blacks are the only shooting of blacks that "matter" to the movement.

Post a New Response

(1377809)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 8 11:37:50 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 11:23:53 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It shows me that in terms of total population, blacks are killed by police at a significantly higher rate than whites.

Post a New Response

(1377810)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 11:41:24 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 8 11:37:50 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That would be significant if you assume that police just go around shooting people randomly but prefer to shoot blacks.


Post a New Response

(1377812)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 11:43:23 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 11:41:24 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
A certain percentage of police officers appear to get so frightened when they meet someone with dark skin that they lose common sense.



Post a New Response

(1377813)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 11:46:41 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 08:37:01 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
yeah

Post a New Response

(1377814)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 11:46:59 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 09:14:35 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
iawtp

Post a New Response

(1377815)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 11:48:29 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 8 09:13:07 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Fuck you asshole

Post a New Response

(1377816)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 11:52:56 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jul 8 10:07:20 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
wtf ?
wtf are you talking about

Post a New Response

(1377817)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 11:54:16 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 11:43:23 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And therfore we need to fund necessary psychologists to examine police recruits and weed out those that would become rogues short term; in addition to in the long term raise children not to exhibit the attitudes that bring about this behaviors.

Post a New Response

(1377818)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 11:56:18 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:43:14 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
When you realize that black people are about 12% of the population, that number s shockingly high.

Post a New Response

(1377819)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 12:02:20 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 8 11:06:25 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Who are my buddies toni? More significantly, who are yours? The guys who cheer cop killing?

Post a New Response

(1377820)

view threaded

Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 12:06:06 2016, in response to Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ, posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 8 10:59:08 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Are you still stocking shelves for a living? Amazing waste of such genius

Post a New Response

(1377821)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 8 12:11:31 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 8 09:13:07 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
IAWTLP

Post a New Response

(1377822)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 12:11:39 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 11:43:23 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If that were true it would be show a severe error in selection and training of officers.

Post a New Response

(1377823)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 12:14:00 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 8 12:11:31 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
SMBBD

Post a New Response

(1377824)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 12:15:06 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 8 09:13:07 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
SMBBD

Post a New Response

(1377826)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 8 12:18:14 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 12:14:00 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's nasty.

Post a New Response

(1377828)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 12:21:31 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 8 12:18:14 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
stop attacking me

Post a New Response

(1377832)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 8 12:33:11 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 09:07:58 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What epidemic?

Post a New Response

(1377836)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 12:41:07 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 12:11:39 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ras As as an inability to, or ignorance driven abscence of desire to follow up with officers on their patrols as to attitudes and experiences encountered and their attitudes about them. That's something seen in a lot of cops, and they have to way to disperse and undestnd that negativity, so they harbor it and we end up seeing behaviors such as we see in Baton Rouge and MN.

Post a New Response

(1377837)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Jul 8 12:50:00 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 12:11:39 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I think that's 100% true. IMO there's a lot of cops out there who shouldn't be cops. Officer's who are scared of ppl who don't look like them or only perception they have of ppl of color bf joining is what they see on tv (if it bleeds it leads) and they take that into these neighborhoods. Many of these types of cops are probably correct they feared for their life but really its not hard to fear for your life dealing with people you are already afraid of due to preconceived prejudices to begin with.

Post a New Response

(1377838)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Jul 8 12:55:12 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 10:23:29 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bravo couldn't have said it any better myself.

Post a New Response

(1377840)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 12:58:11 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 12:11:39 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Indeed.

Why do unarmed blacks get shot at a much higher rate than unarmed whites?

One explanation would be deliberate racial prejudice. But I don't see the evidence for that.

What would your explanation be?




Post a New Response

(1377844)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 8 13:04:02 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 12:58:11 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Simple. Blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes. As a result black males are greater threat to everyone.

If not for all the drama people would not be so on edge dealing with blacks.


Post a New Response

(1377845)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 13:08:15 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 12:58:11 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why do unarmed blacks get shot at a much higher rate than unarmed whites?

Can you back that up statistically? The shooting of unarmed blacks is now readily reported and emphasized; shooting an unarmed white is not considered interesting. AFAIK there is no organization that complains when an unarmed white is shot; and, if there were, it would be called out as racist.

Post a New Response

(1377846)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 8 13:10:18 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 13:08:15 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Alton Sterling was armed.

Post a New Response

(1377848)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:15:29 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 8 13:04:02 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
me too lurchAAA ? i go out everyday & do all the crime ?

Post a New Response

(1377849)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:16:16 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 8 13:10:18 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
you know that for a fact ?

Post a New Response

(1377850)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 8 13:18:49 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:15:29 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No

Post a New Response

(1377851)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 13:18:59 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:15:29 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I think you're close to my age, salaam. I just don't have the energy any more to go out everyday and do all the crime. Do you?

Post a New Response

(1377852)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:24:25 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 13:18:59 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
hell i am 64 i want to live in peace (salaam)

Post a New Response

(1377853)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 13:28:57 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:24:25 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
iawtp

Post a New Response

(1377854)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 13:31:07 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:16:16 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, he did.. At the same time, there's no evidnce he had it out during the police encounter that ended his life. It was found on his body. The full encounter, of less than a minute, is on two videos.

The gentleman in Minnesota was apparently shot at close range while he was in the drives seat of his car, in a seatbelt. There is video of his body as he died, and surrounding events taken by a passenger who witnessed the entire encounter. The man was shot when he reached for his wallet with license and registration.

Post a New Response

(1377855)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:32:56 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 13:28:57 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
thanks

Post a New Response

(1377856)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:34:27 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 13:31:07 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
sure it was not ''planted'' on him ?
you know they do that
one day the police/sheriffs will shoot me and plant a gun on my body

Post a New Response

(1377857)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 13:50:36 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:34:27 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's hard to say, which is why I havn' said anything beyond that a gun was found in his pants pocket. I do not recall any word that it was out during the lethal encounter. From what I saw, they came up to the guy, pinned hin to the ground and shot him five times. I do not know what was said.. It looks just like the "mob hits" you see in the movies. Except a man lost his life, and it appears very unjustified.

Post a New Response

(1377858)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:53:46 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 13:50:36 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
yes unjustified 100%

Post a New Response

(1377859)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Allan on Fri Jul 8 14:28:02 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Easy on Thu Jul 7 23:36:16 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Doubtful. If anything it will put cops more on edge.

Picture this - a peaceful march in a notable city - all the cops in full riot gear, lots of helicopters flying above. I'll bet that you'll see that soon.

Post a New Response

(1377862)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 14:37:44 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 13:50:36 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The witness who called 911 told the operator that Sterling lifted his shirt; showed the witness a gun; and told the witness to leave him (Sterling) alone. I haven't seen or heard anything that said Sterling pulled his gun on the cops.

I'm surprised the cops didn't Tase him.

Post a New Response

(1377864)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 14:53:01 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 13:53:46 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It certainly looks more like that. I know there's a witness to the MN shooting. The only question there is did the driver state he was getting or was he asked / ordered to provide his license and registration? If that's the case (the video here began after Mr Castile was shot when he reached for his wallet, while he was still in his seatbelt) then this is nothing beyond a cold blooded murder.

I will say the powers that be are handling it much better, with a quick and quite transparent investigation that is addressing concerns. We don't hear or see anything of the sort out of Baton Rouge. In fact, it seems as if they're busy attempting to cover it all up anyway they can find.

Post a New Response

(1377865)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 14:55:47 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 14:37:44 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
All the reports I read stated the gun was in a pants pocket.

Post a New Response

(1377866)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 15:08:24 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 14:55:47 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's what I read as well.

Post a New Response

(1377867)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by OCTD 2039 on Fri Jul 8 15:17:40 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Dave on Thu Jul 7 23:33:38 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The perpetrator has been found as of today. A robot was used to blow up and kill Johnson to end this once and for all! He gets used to it.

Post a New Response

(1377868)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 8 15:18:10 2016, in response to SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 7 23:27:20 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d


Post a New Response

(1377869)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by ftgreeneg on Fri Jul 8 15:21:10 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 09:52:47 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Basically hope the media make some effort to say this man was innocent bc they sure had his face plastered everywhere as a person pf interest. I can only imagine the backlash he's receiving.

Post a New Response

(1377871)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 15:24:14 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 14:53:01 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
yeah i have to go out today
will i come home alive ?

Post a New Response

(1377872)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jul 8 15:24:31 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 14:53:01 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
When it comes to official corruption and cover ups, nobody beats Louisiana!

Post a New Response

(1377873)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 15:25:16 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 8 15:18:10 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
there is no war on any police

Post a New Response

(1377874)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 15:26:28 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 15:24:14 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ........................

Post a New Response

(1377875)

view threaded

Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 15:30:03 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 15:25:16 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh?

“The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.”

His profile photo on Facebook shows him in a dashiki, holding a clenched fist in the air. Johnson’s cover photos are a black liberation flag and a black power fist.



Post a New Response

[1 2 3 4 5 6]

< Previous Page  

Page 4 of 6

Next Page >  


[ Return to the Message Index ]