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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Thu Sep 3 22:33:23 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 21:38:49 2015.

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But when the deputy clerk issues the licenses, is he signing his name or the clerks's name?

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Thu Sep 3 22:33:38 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 3 21:41:47 2015.

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bingo

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Thu Sep 3 22:34:09 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 3 21:40:09 2015.

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You're not that bright, are you?

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 3 22:58:24 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Thu Sep 3 22:34:09 2015.

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First they came for the Christians . . .

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 3 23:16:32 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Sep 3 22:08:44 2015.

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If a Mussulmanic government official refused to issue licenses to same sex couples, what would CMM and the other right wing theocrats say then?

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Second Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 3 23:29:09 2015, in response to Kentucky County Clerk, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 2 09:46:24 2015.

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WFIE, NBC 14, Evansville IN

Another KY clerk vows to not issue same sex marriage licenses

Posted: Sep 01, 2015 3:33 PM EDT
Updated: Sep 02, 2015 2:08 PM EDT
By Natalia Martinez
Two clerks, one message.

Casey County Clerk, Casey Davis, vows to join his now famous colleague from Rowan County, Kim Davis.

'I'm trying to help a woman that does not deserve to go to jail,” Casey Davis said. “This woman has done nothing wrong."

Using vacation time, he will cross the state on a 400-mile bike trip from Pikeville to Paducah to protest against what he considers a public prosecution of a Christian. This as Kim Davis is confronted by the very people she turned away.

"Is this what you want to remember?” yelled David Moore, one of the gay men trying to get a marriage license from Kim Davis Tuesday. “That you stood up for this? That your children have to look at you and realize that you’re a bigot, and you discriminated against people?”

Kim Davis asked them to leave. She did not issue any marriage licenses even after a Supreme Court Ruling.

"You're telling us that we don't deserve the same rights as you do, that you have, that you've enjoyed your entire life?” Moore asked.

“Would you do this to an interracial couple?" he asked her.

"A man and a woman?” Kim replied. “No."

Despite the pressure, Casey Davis says he won't issue any same sex marriage licenses either.

"I want to be as free as they want to be," Casey said of LGBT couples.

The couple at the center of the video inside the Rowan County Clerk’s office says the clerks are already free, just outside of their jobs.

"I think that narrative is pretty far from the truth,” David Ermold, Moore’s partner said. “This is really, truly just about someone doing their job."

Casey plans on reaching Paducah Friday evening. What he doesn't plan on doing is stepping down and thinks Kim Davis shouldn't have to either.

"This is the job I was elected to,” Casey said. “If the people of my county my constituents don't want me to have this job when I run again, they'll tell me that."

Casey Davis proposes having the person officiating the wedding issue the marriage license. He says he's got some support from other state leaders.


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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 3 23:29:18 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 3 22:58:24 2015.

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It's about time!

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 00:09:18 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 3 22:06:28 2015.

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Klutz.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 00:13:34 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Thu Sep 3 22:34:09 2015.

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You do know that homosexuality is a torah sin?

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 4 00:44:22 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 00:13:34 2015.

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Torah link

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 4 02:05:01 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 3 19:28:40 2015.

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You don't know persecution.

An uncle of mine ended up dying as an indirect consequence of quitting a job when he was assigned new duties that he felt he could not morally accept. That's persecution.

Ms. Davis will just have to find another job. No different than an observant but not orthodox Jew who might have to quit his job as a chef if his employer decided to start serving pork dishes. Her life and even livelihood are not at risk.



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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 4 02:06:42 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Sep 3 22:08:44 2015.

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She could have claimed Sharia Law forbade her from doing her job and the result would be the same.

That's exactly what she did claim, except substituting her religious principles for Sharia.


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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 05:52:09 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Thu Sep 3 22:25:55 2015.

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Actually, he is, because by not dealing with the problem and letting her continue disobeying the court, you're giving her the signal it's OK to continue doing what she's doing.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 05:57:32 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 21:32:13 2015.

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Why should a couple tolerate unlawful discrimination by a government official?

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 06:44:29 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 00:13:34 2015.

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The Torah is not the law of the land. The Constitution is.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 4 06:44:35 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 00:13:34 2015.

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So is not keeping kosher or wearing garments of two different materials, yet you violate that all the time

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 4 06:49:37 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 06:44:29 2015.

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+1

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:12:56 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 3 22:58:24 2015.

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That'll be the day.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:16:23 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 4 06:44:35 2015.

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Owned!!!!

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:17:27 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 00:13:34 2015.

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News to me. I thought only homosexual acts were forbidden. That said, it's irrelevant to this situation.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:20:31 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 05:57:32 2015.

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He didn't say they should. You are misunderstanding.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:22:08 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 05:52:09 2015.

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Nope. I'm right from the beginning and you are wrong. Dave did not say they should ignore the situation and let her continue. Reread his posts!!! It's there in plain English!

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 07:41:17 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:20:31 2015.

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No, he did say that, by saying they should just go to another clerk. That's tolerating the situation.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 07:52:35 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:22:08 2015.

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OK, he did say that they should let the suit continue, though it was pointed out there may be a standing/mootness issue.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 4 08:08:58 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 07:41:17 2015.

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No, he did say that, by saying they should just go to another clerk. That's tolerating the situation.
He did NOT say that. Unbelievable. He said to go to another clerk AND STILL SUE THE PANTS OFF THAT DAVIS WOMAN!

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 4 08:09:51 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 07:52:35 2015.

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Finally! Thank you!!! See how a misunderstanding results in tons of unnecessary back and forth posts!??!??

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:00:45 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 4 06:49:37 2015.

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+2. Which BTW,is the reason she's in prison.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 09:04:12 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 4 08:09:51 2015.

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6 posts is not "tons".

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:05:56 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 4 02:06:42 2015.

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Exactly....what makes you think there's any space between Sharia orthodoxy and BAC orthodoxy? Protip: there isn't.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:08:06 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 4 00:44:22 2015.

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Olog-hai, you are a mensch.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:11:48 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:00:45 2015.

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Is she actually in prison as opposed to jail?

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:14:38 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:05:56 2015.

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Sure there is. Born again Christianity is righteous and the United States is a Christian nation, while sharia law is evil. Of course Obama is a secret Muslim communist atheist who was born in Kenya and is the son of Satan.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:15:14 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:08:06 2015.

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No, he's not.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:18:40 2015, in response to Kentucky County Clerk, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 2 09:46:24 2015.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:19:57 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:11:48 2015.

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I don't know, just a figure of speech. She's in Federal custody and they typically don't do "jail". In this case, I'd bet she's not being held in a local jail, so it's within reason to say they shipped her off to Leavenworth, for all anyone knows they did.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:20:09 2015, in response to Kentucky County Clerk, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 2 09:46:24 2015.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:21:54 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:14:38 2015.

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Lulz. Spoken like a true RWer.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:21:58 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:15:14 2015.

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You are too. Sometimes.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:22:21 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:21:54 2015.

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Klutz.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 4 09:25:01 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:18:40 2015.

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She ignored a Court order and that is why she was jailed

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 4 09:25:21 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:20:09 2015.

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Neither is courageous

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:33:32 2015, in response to Kentucky County Clerk, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 2 09:46:24 2015.

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Here is someone who also defied what was also felt as unjust.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:38:01 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:20:09 2015.

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Why do you cast your lot with the Christian Fundamentalists? They are NOT your friends!

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:38:29 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:21:54 2015.

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Thanks

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:39:17 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:21:58 2015.

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I am a mensch more often than Olog-hai. In that any positive number is greater than zero.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:40:21 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 4 09:33:32 2015.

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The bus company was the County Clerk and Ms. Parks was the gay couples in that analogy.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Fri Sep 4 09:56:35 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Sep 2 15:56:38 2015.

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To be fair, her twins were conceived during her first marriage

Begotten by her third husband...

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 4 09:58:19 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 4 09:04:12 2015.

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There were others too.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 4 09:58:50 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:38:29 2015.

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Unbelievable.

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Re: Kentucky County Clerk

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 4 09:59:08 2015, in response to Re: Kentucky County Clerk, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 4 09:39:17 2015.

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+667

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