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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 28 00:03:41 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 27 23:43:33 2015. You didn't answer my point that if employets could pay women less for the same work, there'd be only women in the workforce. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Fri Aug 28 00:27:47 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 26 09:08:11 2015. Note: I haven't yet read this whole thread.for daring to ask an uncomfortable question.That's not why he was thrown out. Please keep doing things like this, right up through the primaries.What, you're scared he might win? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 28 00:31:22 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 26 09:08:11 2015. If you didn' hate white people so much, you would be worshipping the ground Trump walks on. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 00:32:43 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Fri Aug 28 00:27:47 2015. Ramos was rude and kept interrupting Trump when he called on another person to ask a question and he kept it up until he was asked to leave. That was on him......but Trump is a loaded cannon who is going to screw the Republicans royally unless their stupid voters understand that if they want a winner they can't have someone who insults Hispanics as if they were second classers. There is a better way to explain how illegal immigration hurts the economy without making it seem that every person of Hispanic origin is a lowlife.The sooner my party realizes this and cancels Donald's ticket the better chance they will have in 2016, and they better do it in the next five or six months. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Fri Aug 28 00:45:50 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 00:32:43 2015. The Donald has made very clear that only some illegal immigrants are bad and that all the very good ones would be let back in. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 28 03:23:28 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 00:32:43 2015. The only way the Donald is not the next president would for him to die, or voluntarily leave the race. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 06:02:12 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 28 03:23:28 2015. LOL! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 06:22:47 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 00:32:43 2015. Trump is a loaded cannon who is going to screw the Republicans royally unless their stupid voters understand that if they want a winner they can't have someone who insults Hispanics as if they were second classersFalse citation. There is no evidence of that. And nobody can "screw" the GOP better than the Establishment. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 28 07:06:51 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 06:02:12 2015. I'm glad you think that was funny. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 07:32:21 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Aug 27 22:24:01 2015. That's uncalled for. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 28 07:35:46 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 06:02:12 2015. Yes, this place does provide good entertainment value sometimes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 08:23:42 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 27 23:44:34 2015. What do you expect from a Trump supporter? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 28 08:58:43 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 07:32:21 2015. Totally. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 28 08:59:17 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Aug 27 22:24:01 2015. It's that time of the month.And you wonder why no one wants to #summit with you... |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Aug 28 09:38:38 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Aug 27 16:48:31 2015. Post corrected:Best college marching band EVER! :) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 09:47:58 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 27 22:40:33 2015. What was chicagomotorman doing in Mobile, Alabama?Again, thank you for coming to my aid. NOT!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 09:49:59 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 07:32:21 2015. But her cursing is? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 09:50:20 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 28 08:58:43 2015. Nebbish. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 09:51:22 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 28 08:59:17 2015. So in other words you condone bingbong's vulgarity. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:03:01 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 09:51:22 2015. Denying American citizens their rights is vulgar. Siding with those that do is equally so. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:04:29 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 28 00:03:41 2015. That's a crock of shit and you know it. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:10:11 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:03:01 2015. Exactly. Although you would have no problem denying the rights of American citizens who are business owners of private businesses their freedom of expression of religion by making them accept clients that offend their sincerely held religious beliefs. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 10:12:42 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:10:11 2015. What if your religious beliefs prohibit race mixing and it violates said beliefs to accept clients that are of a different race. Would that be OK? |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:13:18 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 06:02:12 2015. +1 on the lulz. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 10:13:20 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:04:29 2015. No. It’s Economics 101. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:16:06 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 08:23:42 2015. Not much more than that. Bunch of wannabe thugs. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 10:16:07 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 28 07:06:51 2015. I’m unhappy that you think it was serious. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:17:41 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 10:12:42 2015. The Supreme Court has held that racial minorities are a suspect class. They have not extended that to LGBT. Moreover the purpose of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments was to protect racial minorities |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 10:24:10 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:03:01 2015. Whose rights are being denied? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 10:24:34 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:10:11 2015. excellent post. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 28 10:27:09 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:04:29 2015. It's all well and good for YOU to resort to childish insults instead of responding like an adult but you've not proven your point.Why don't you explain why an employer would hire men when he/she could hire women to do the same work for less money. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:29:58 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:10:11 2015. If you open a business,you are seeking public access to your goods and services. If you have a problem with a customer or their expressed ideology, donate their profits to a cause you support. There's laws against denying access and they exist for good reason. That's how civilized people handle it.If you open a club you can do whatever between the people in its membership. That includes who you allow in. But you are forever limited to its membership. That's the price for being exclusionary. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:32:00 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 10:13:20 2015. In economics 101, only men held jobs. That's how they have wanted it to be since day Yog. Reality, OTOH, has always dictated different, and so wage disparity has existed alongside it since. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 10:32:25 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:13:18 2015. Klutz |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 10:33:03 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 28 10:16:07 2015. But you still laughed. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:33:55 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:29:58 2015. It is not just about money. If I am baking a cake for an event it is showing my support for that event even though that event may violate my sincerely held religious beliefs. Civilized people handle it that if one baker won't bake a cake you go onto the next baker, rather than a public shaming on the internet. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 28 10:35:31 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:32:00 2015. And you still claim that New Paltz was a good school? |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:36:54 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:17:41 2015. You believe that only court-recognized groups are minorities? That one has to have a certain physical appearance to be a minority? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 28 10:37:14 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:33:55 2015. Liberal argument #1: What if you are the only baker within a 50 mile radius? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:39:35 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 28 10:37:14 2015. Bakers deliver even beyond 50 miles. Watch an episode of Cake Boss. Buddy makes some pretty far flung deliveries. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 28 10:39:40 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:32:00 2015. And you still claim that New Paltz was a good school? |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:47:39 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 10:24:10 2015. The women who, given a quantifiable economic disadvantage, cannot seek the medical care they and their doctor feels best suits their situation. Limiting what insurance will pay for harms them. When the law mandates the funds come from other sources, it harms a lot more, Ultimately, that's all taxpayers.High price for one's person's prayer, eh? And nobody involved took one iota of that right to pray as they wish away, which is what was meant by practice of religion by our founders. Prayer and worship. That's what the First amendment's about. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:50:03 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 28 10:33:55 2015. No, you are providing a service (baking & decorating, which is what they're actually paying for, just about anyone can bake) and goods (a beautiful, sculptural dessert) for someone else. You aren't endorsing anything beyond lining your own pockets. Get real. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:51:16 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 28 10:35:31 2015. I didn't take economics in college. High School. Walked into college with credits from AP. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:53:25 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 28 10:27:09 2015. Depends who's resume is on file. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 11:07:41 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 28 09:49:59 2015. I commented on that, if you recall. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 11:11:35 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 10:47:39 2015. Except a majority people whose opinion counts on this issue - SCOTUS - disagrees with you. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 11:57:24 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 11:11:35 2015. That's only five people. Easy for a group like that to be wrong. It's up to the rest of us, all of us, to change that. You in, or do you hate women? |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 12:11:22 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 11:57:24 2015. Ah, but it was the five people whose opinion counts! |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 28 12:27:29 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 12:11:22 2015. Not permanently. There already are bills to legislate this away. All we need is |
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