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The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 09:03:49 2015

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Good for you Donald. Put him in his place.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 26 09:08:11 2015, in response to The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 09:03:49 2015.

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Good going, Donald. Go right ahead and piss off the entire Latino voter base, by throwing Univision's lead anchor out of your presser, in front of millions of his viewers, for daring to ask an uncomfortable question. Please keep doing things like this, right up through the primaries.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 09:29:33 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 26 09:08:11 2015.

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Except he wasn't asking a question; he was lecturing The Donald.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 09:38:40 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 26 09:08:11 2015.

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You should be more appreciative of Donald.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 13:25:31 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 09:38:40 2015.

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I'm sure he will be if Trump becomes the GOP nominee and the Democrats win the 2016 election in a landslide.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 26 13:34:40 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 13:25:31 2015.

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Unfortunately, Trump seems to poll best among people who don't vote in primaries.



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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 14:02:35 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 26 13:34:40 2015.

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Or for that matter, vote period. Lulz.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 14:26:02 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 13:25:31 2015.

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Not necessarily. Hillary Clinton has extensive baggage and speaks with forked tongue whenever she opens her mouth. Bernie Sanders I think will be in trouble if he has to debate because every question his solution is to fix the underlying social issues. The sad part is that is the best of the lot of the Democrats running. Those two and Donald Trump may be my 3 of my least favorite candidates running (not a fan of Ted Cruz either).

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 14:37:32 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 13:25:31 2015.

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And since you feel that you speak for JayZeeBMT, do you know why he should be more appreciative of the Donald?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 14:38:14 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 14:02:35 2015.

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Klutz.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 14:39:24 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 14:26:02 2015.

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not a fan of Ted Cruz either.


Why?


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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 14:59:14 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 14:37:32 2015.

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Because I assume JayZeeBMT would take any Democrat over Trump.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 14:59:37 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 26 13:34:40 2015.

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I said IF Trump becomes the nominee.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 26 15:03:01 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 14:59:37 2015.

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I know.


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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 17:20:48 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 09:29:33 2015.

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But you guys love it when someone from Faux does that to our President. Does Trump deserve even more respect for his office?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 17:24:48 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 17:20:48 2015.

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Proff?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 17:25:12 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 14:39:24 2015.

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For all of his bluster, he has got nothing done in the Senate. I get that he is steadfast in his positions, but a number of them I think are just plain wrong. We have seen since January 2009 what having a rabble rouser with little track record of getting anything done means for the United States. Give me someone like John Kasich who has shown he can get things done and will put aside partisan politics if it is in the benefit of those he is governing.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 17:28:40 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 17:24:48 2015.

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Hmmmm ... Ever hear of Kevin Corke? Then there's Major Garrett who is now with them as well.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 17:30:10 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 17:25:12 2015.

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Not trying to shut down the government. Again.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 17:48:31 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 17:25:12 2015.

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There are a lot of problems with what Kasich is allowing to get done.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:49:00 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 14:59:14 2015.

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No. Any more guesses?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:50:04 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 17:25:12 2015.

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OK. What about his stand on Israel?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:50:44 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 17:30:10 2015.

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And of course you don't blame obama.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:51:20 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 17:48:31 2015.

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That there is an R in front of his name?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 17:53:16 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:51:20 2015.

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No, look at the legislation he's passed. Lots wrong with it.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 18:00:19 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:50:44 2015.

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For what? He's just trying to do his job. Congressional republicans have been making that impossible since day 1. The country as a result, suffers.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 18:13:08 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:50:44 2015.

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Not for that. Reagan fired the air traffic controllers. Fire the House and the Senate and let's try again.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 18:14:25 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 17:28:40 2015.

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You have links to footage of them lecturing the president? I've heard of Corke but I'm not familiar with Garrett.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 18:16:10 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 18:00:19 2015.

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And Congressional republicans say Obama has been making their job impossible since day 1. Where you stand depends on where you sit.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 18:17:46 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 18:14:25 2015.

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Aw man ... ever hear of this place called "Google?" :)

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 18:24:37 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 18:16:10 2015.

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Problem here is the republicans seek to harm the country, take away rights and hand the wealth to their cronies while everyone else "starves".

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 18:26:01 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:50:04 2015.

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There are more issues than Israel. Not every candidate will see eye to eye with me, but I look as a whole and see which candidate agrees with me on the issues I see as most important.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 18:30:44 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 18:24:37 2015.

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Republicans do not seek to harm this country. They may have different viewpoints on how to best solve issues, but I do not think that their goal is harming this country. Democrats are also good at taking away rights. That is unless you favor taking away freedom to practice one's religion, individual rights under the second amendment or the 10 Amendment

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 18:31:04 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 18:30:44 2015.

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*10th

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Aug 26 18:44:43 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 18:26:01 2015.

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ok. Fair enough.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by The silence on Wed Aug 26 18:46:14 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 26 09:08:11 2015.

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I've heard Ramos' daughter works for Hillary Clinton. If this is true, is there not a risk is a possible conflict of interest for Ramos interacting with any of the other candidates?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Aug 26 18:46:46 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 18:13:08 2015.

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I said obama, not Reagan.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 26 18:50:08 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 17:53:16 2015.

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Such as?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 26 18:52:28 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 18:30:44 2015.

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How are they doing any of those things?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 19:00:16 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Aug 26 18:46:46 2015.

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I know you did. But when it comes to firing, Reagan did it to ATC, time for Obama to fire congress. Hut-hut-hut. :)

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 19:01:15 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Aug 26 18:30:44 2015.

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There are no Democrats or liberals seeking to infringe on any individual's rights to practice their religion. The second amendment mandates regulation of guns at the same time pemits them. The reason for permitting guns is the limit of the right. It is not nor was it ever meant to be unfettered. Last I looked, the 10th amendment is fine, and the Federal government is free to expand its influence with the Consitiutional power assigned to it. It's some of the states that are taking advantage of the Feds, by not properly fulfilling their obligations leaving the rest of us to pay their bills that's the problem.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 19:16:24 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 26 18:50:08 2015.

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Cutting back early voting. Voter ID ( we all know "voter fraud" is a dogwhistle for squashing minority rights). Needless restrictions on reproductive rights. Education cuts.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 19:41:45 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 26 19:01:15 2015.

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There are no Democrats or liberals seeking to infringe on any individual's rights to practice their religion.

Oh?

Hillary and other liberals came out in opposition to the Hobby lobby decision. Remember that one? Where SCOTUS gave a corporation owned and run by evangelicals the right to opt out of a federal regulation requiring the company to provide its employees certain kinds of birth control? Now they're in a tizzy over Indiana and Arkansas' Religious Freedom Restoration Acts.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 19:46:11 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 19:41:45 2015.

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Are they a church? Or are they a business engaged in interstate trade?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 19:54:19 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:50:44 2015.

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Oh by the way, thank you for defending me the other day. NOT!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 19:58:49 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 19:54:19 2015.

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The other day? Sorry, but there's just so much crap here and time is short, I pretty much don't read anything much anymore if it's political. It's the same old harping on the same old shit.

Point me to the offending message and I'll have a look.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 20:06:56 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 26 17:49:00 2015.

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You doubt that to be true?

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Aug 26 20:34:49 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 26 20:06:56 2015.

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No, but that was not my point. Keep guessing.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 22:30:10 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 19:46:11 2015.

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I don't understand your question.

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Re: The Donald vs Ramos

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 26 22:38:18 2015, in response to Re: The Donald vs Ramos, posted by Dave on Wed Aug 26 22:30:10 2015.

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Seems simple enough. Are any of these businesses churches? Or are they engaged in interstate commerce? Do they hold services? Or do they have cash registers? It's not all that difficult a question.

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