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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 13:52:17 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 13:47:43 2015.

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a piece of junk

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 4 13:53:25 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 4 13:43:04 2015.

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The whole "liberals" thing started in the 80's with hate radio. One needs to consider it as a response to that given that actual unemotional discussion died back then too. Slogans rule! :)

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 13:55:07 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 13:43:42 2015.

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The rate should be zero

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:01:14 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 13:43:42 2015.

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looks like you're posting in the subjunctive mood again.

As for illegals, I think the reason it's going down is because Mexico is getting tough on their southern border again, making it harder for Central Americans.

Thanks.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 14:14:13 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:01:14 2015.

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The bush cradsh had even more o do with it. Even now.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:17:34 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 14:14:13 2015.

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Mexico is cracking down.

There is a lot of anti-Central American attitudes in Mexico. Mexicans don't want any Salvadoreans, Guatawhatevers, or Ecuadoreans getting in.



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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:22:13 2015, in response to How The South Screws America, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 4 10:01:45 2015.

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The racial polarization of the American electorate is exacerbated by the white Southern electorate. In 2012, Barack Obama, the first African-American president, won only 39 percent of the white vote

to that, intelligent people would point out the percentage of the black vote Obama won.

Works both ways.

That's how it works.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 14:26:06 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 13:55:07 2015.

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And you're willing to pay large amounts additional in federal income tax to make it zero?

While we're at it, why don't we take measures to make the automobile accident death rate zero?



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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 14:30:00 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 14:26:06 2015.

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It is the job of the government to protect our borders. Automobile safety isn't listed anywhere in the Constitution as a Federal power so therefore that is the responsibility of the individual states

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:31:12 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 14:26:06 2015.

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i think we can greatly reduce illegal immigration and it would not cost much more.

it's a conspiracy. we let illegals in to do the work others won't do. work = long hours for little pay while making babies.



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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:31:43 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 14:30:00 2015.

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you just beat AlM. Oh shit.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:35:01 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 10:04:57 2015.

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he is prejudiced against southern whites. Some of them must have given him shit in 1986.

I don't much like them. I fucking hate the way they drive and what they drive.



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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 14:35:16 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:01:14 2015.

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No, he's not. If he were posting in the subjunctive mood, I'd know.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:38:45 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 14:35:16 2015.

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ok.

But something should be said about Mexico enforcing it's southern border. The popular view in that angry whites want to keep mestizo Indian immigrants from crossing our southern border. I think border enforcement is a mentality that is found in many countries, but people like to play the race card against whites.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 14:48:01 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 14:30:00 2015.

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Automobile safety isn't listed anywhere in the Constitution as a Federal power so therefore that is the responsibility of the individual states

So federal auto safety laws are unconstitutional?

And you did dodge the question. Do you really want to spend the money necessary to bring illegal immigration down to zero or even a trickle?



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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 14:49:53 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:38:45 2015.

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So if we could cut the number of illegal immigrants in half by doubling our border control budget, would you be happy to pay your share of the cost?



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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:52:34 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 14:49:53 2015.

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i dont' think we would have to 2x the budget.

and I'm saying we don't want to keep people out. who would do the long hours and make babies? Americans are on the internet.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 14:54:01 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 14:49:53 2015.

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The way to curb illegal immigration is to make it too difficult to hire them.

Mandatory e-verify and make it a crime to knowingly hire illegals. If this causes economic troubles, then increase LEGAL immigration. No amnesty because that cheapens the efforts of people who got here legally.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 15:00:14 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 4 14:54:01 2015.

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Mandatory e-verify and make it a crime to knowingly hire illegals.

I really don't understand that issue. My sister-in-law and brother-in-law owned a business until very recently in an industry that is known for its use of illegal aliens. They were scrupulously careful to make sure everyone they hired was a legal resident, I'm pretty sure by using e-verify. They were warned by their lawyer that it could cost them big bucks if they got caught having hired any illegals.

I just don't understand why they were at such risk, yet other business owners evidently seem to think it's no big deal to hire illegals.



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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 15:17:52 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 14:48:01 2015.

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Yes but the costs can be covered by cutting programs and departments that are not the responsibility of the Federal government

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 15:22:39 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 15:17:52 2015.

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start with the defense budget

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 4 15:23:16 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 15:17:52 2015.

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OK. It strikes me as an extraordinary waste of resources.



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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 15:26:54 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 15:22:39 2015.

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Defense is the responsibility of the Feds. EPA is not. Department of Education is not.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:31:01 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 15:17:52 2015.

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Ahem. The Constitution mandates Congress regulate interstate commerce. Cars are sold nationally, and roads go into and out of the states as well. They have every bit a business in regulation of autos, their safety, emissions (the atmosphere does not recognize state boundaries) and roads.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:35:46 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 13:52:17 2015.

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I agree.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:35:47 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 15:26:54 2015.

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EPA is. As I said elsewhere, the atmosphere does not recognize states boundaries. Nor do oceans, rivers and lakes. There is some room for discussion for education, but given how many states fail at public schools (funny how they're concentrated in the.....here we go again!) there's a strong argument for Federal oversight to ensure some standard is reached.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:37:17 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 13:06:27 2015.

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Only when I shave.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 15:39:07 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 15:26:54 2015.

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Department of Education is not?
what do you want ?
a bunch of uneducated americans ?
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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:39:19 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 12:57:58 2015.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:40:19 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 4 13:20:19 2015.

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Excellent post.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 4 15:41:43 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:31:01 2015.

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Ahem. So California should not have its own emissions standards that do not agree with federal standards. Also, should states not ban fracking because there is no federal prohibition on it? Ahem.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:41:53 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 13:24:11 2015.

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proof of what?

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:42:14 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 4 13:27:34 2015.

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lol

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 15:42:54 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:41:53 2015.

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black people drag America down?
proof ?
proff

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:43:12 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:39:19 2015.

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Oh? Let's see proof.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:43:23 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 4 13:53:25 2015.

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hate radio smh

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 15:43:46 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:37:17 2015.

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oh sure
maybe you need to look when you are not shaving
lol

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 15:44:18 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 4 13:53:25 2015.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:44:39 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:31:43 2015.

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Why don't you beat it.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:45:40 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 4 15:41:43 2015.

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They are free to exceed the Federal standards if they wish. Same goes for fracking standards, or fracking itself. There are baselines but they are weak and need work.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 4 15:46:41 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:45:40 2015.

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Why do they need work. Be specific

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:46:43 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:43:23 2015.

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Yeah, hate radio. What do you think they're spewing?

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 15:47:07 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:46:43 2015.

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lol

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:48:14 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 4 14:35:01 2015.

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Excellent post.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 4 15:50:14 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 4 15:26:54 2015.

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Regulatory overreach.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:50:51 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 4 15:46:41 2015.

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I'm no geologist or engineer. But I do know flaming water when I see it, and you can't argue that is okay.

Go Here

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:51:17 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:43:12 2015.

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You're an idiot. Illegal immigration is the worst it has ever been. ALL illegal aliens and their anchor babies must be deported. Only then will the border be secure.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:52:04 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 4 15:42:54 2015.

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I don't believe that.

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:52:53 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 4 15:46:43 2015.

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You're full of hate. BIG TIME!

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Re: How The South Screws America

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jul 4 15:53:29 2015, in response to Re: How The South Screws America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 4 13:53:25 2015.

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