|
|
| Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam (1290607) | |
 |
|
| Home > OTChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
Page 7 of 9 |
||
|
| (1291756) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 07:11:35 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 29 06:44:11 2015. You stumped him again, SMAZ.Way to go, Stumpy! Living up to your potential once again! |
|
|
| (1291762) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Fri May 29 08:03:58 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 07:06:09 2015. I think you've violated his country's laws, if I understand one of his past posts correctly. |
|
|
| (1291763) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 08:13:59 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 08:03:58 2015. As they say in Russia, "Tough shitsky, y'all."Sorry but I'm not bound by the laws of Dumbfuckistan. |
|
|
| (1291764) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 08:14:36 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 28 22:21:09 2015. Stumped again, Stumpy! |
|
|
| (1291765) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 08:15:58 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 08:13:59 2015. That's in south Russia. *G* |
|
|
| (1291768) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 29 08:33:04 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 07:06:09 2015. He told you last night. |
|
|
| (1291770) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 29 08:39:43 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Nilet on Thu May 28 20:20:02 2015. Accessing a website in a manner that violates the posted terms of service is a federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.Not having read the complete Act, I would hope that the "posted terms of service" that you refer to would have to be from the owner/operator of the website and not from a random user. Assuming that is the case, then Dave would not have violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act by not following the terms you included in your post. |
|
|
| (1291772) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Fri May 29 08:46:52 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 29 08:39:43 2015. I think we can be very sure that Nilet is making it up as he goes along. Even if you violate a web site's terms of use, the statute will have some kind of clause about causing financial harm in it. |
|
|
| (1291779) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 09:58:01 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 08:46:52 2015. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act deals with hacking into computers used by a financial institution or the United States Government; or use of any computer when the conduct constituting the offense affects the computer's use by or for the financial institution or the Government; or which is used in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce or communication.IOW, it doesn't apply to OTChat. |
|
|
| (1291780) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 29 10:06:50 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 08:03:58 2015. Actually, I think his claim is that Salaam is not a felon. |
|
|
| (1291781) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Fri May 29 10:06:57 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 09:58:01 2015. IOW, it doesn't apply to OTChat.I am astonished! :) |
|
|
| (1291782) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 10:09:54 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 10:06:57 2015. |
|
|
| (1291785) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Fri May 29 10:47:46 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 29 10:06:50 2015. LinkAccessing a website in a manner that violates the posted terms of service is a federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. So congratulations. You are now just as much of a criminal as Salaam is. Salaam was a felon and I was not. You were not, but you are now. |
|
|
| (1291786) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 11:52:22 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 29 06:44:11 2015. i agree ! |
|
|
| (1291787) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 11:52:48 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 07:11:35 2015. shut up davey from texassssgod hates texass |
|
|
| (1291788) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 11:53:20 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 10:47:46 2015. IAWTP |
|
|
| (1291789) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 11:54:09 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 08:14:36 2015. shut up davey from texasssssgod dont like texasss |
|
|
| (1291790) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 11:55:02 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 10:09:54 2015. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
|
|
| (1291791) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 12:16:15 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 11:52:48 2015. How does He hate Texas and more than the drought in California? In fact, the rain ended a four year extreme drought in Texas. |
|
|
| (1291793) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 12:20:33 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 11:55:02 2015. Aw, what's the matter Stumpy? Can't deal with your troll buddy being proven wrong again? I can understand why you're sleeping. |
|
|
| (1291794) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 12:29:13 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 12:16:15 2015. look at whats going on now ? the floods and tornadoes |
|
|
| (1291795) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 12:29:41 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 12:20:33 2015. shut up davey from texassssss |
|
|
| (1291796) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 12:32:22 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 12:29:13 2015. We get tornadoes here every year, nothing unusual about that. |
|
|
| (1291797) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 12:37:17 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 12:32:22 2015. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
|
|
| (1291798) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 13:21:33 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 12:37:17 2015. 
|
|
|
| (1291799) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 13:50:19 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 13:21:33 2015. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
|
|
| (1291814) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 29 18:31:07 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 09:58:01 2015. This website isn't involved with interstate and/or foreign communication? |
|
|
| (1291815) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 29 18:31:07 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 09:58:01 2015. This website isn't involved with interstate and/or foreign communication? |
|
|
| (1291816) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 29 18:33:12 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 08:46:52 2015. I haven't read the whole act but a quick google search reveals claims that the language of the act is so broad that it encompasses many things that maybe weren't intended or foreseen. |
|
|
| (1291821) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Fri May 29 19:40:30 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 29 18:33:12 2015. True, but not responding to a SubChat post in a way that the prior poster said was unacceptable. :) |
|
|
| (1291826) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 21:46:17 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 29 18:31:07 2015. The offending act has to affect in an unlawful way (e.g., hacking or money laundering) interstate or foreign commerce or communication. |
|
|
| (1291837) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:05 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 29 10:06:50 2015. THANK you. |
|
|
| (1291839) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:15 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 10:47:46 2015. And your point is...?Let me guess, you're taking everything completely literally again? |
|
|
| (1291840) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:18 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 08:13:59 2015. Really? I thought you lived in Texas. You have diplomatic immunity or something? |
|
|
| (1291841) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:22 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 08:03:58 2015. Dave and I live in the same country. |
|
|
| (1291842) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:25 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 07:06:09 2015. Violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act— failure to obey a website's posted terms of service. |
|
|
| (1291843) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:28 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 19:40:30 2015. Actually, posted terms of service are given force of law no matter what they say— violate them and you are a "felon" under the CFAA. |
|
|
| (1291844) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:31 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 29 18:33:12 2015. I haven't read the whole act but a quick google search reveals claims that the language of the act is so broad that it encompasses many things that maybe weren't intended or foreseen.The CFAA predates the internet. It failed to foresee pretty much anything that happened in the last 30 years. |
|
|
| (1291845) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:34 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 21:46:17 2015. The offending act has to affect in an unlawful way (e.g., hacking or money laundering)...And violating the posted terms of service is considered "hacking" under the CFAA. |
|
|
| (1291846) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:37 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 09:58:01 2015. IOW, it doesn't apply to OTChat.Incorrect. It applies to any website. |
|
|
| (1291847) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:42 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by AlM on Fri May 29 08:46:52 2015. Even if you violate a web site's terms of use, the statute will have some kind of clause about causing financial harm in it.Nope! The CFAA doesn't require financial harm— any failure to obey a website's terms of service is a felony. Similarly, the DMCA doesn't require any financial harm, copyright infringement, or other illegal activity; breaking digital restrictions management technology is a felony EVEN if you actually own the copyright to the file you're cracking. Which means that had I bought a later Nikon camera (which encrypts its RAW files) and used open source software released under a very open license to crack the encryption a third party placed on a file I own, I'd still be breaking the law— the digital equivalent of some random company putting their lock on my house without permission and then asking me to pay them for the key and it's still a felony to break the lock. That's normally my go-to example for ridiculous laws, but it's a bit tricky to demonstrate on SubChat. |
|
|
| (1291848) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:48 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 29 08:39:43 2015. Here comes Terrapin to take everything literally and get hopelessly confused! |
|
|
| (1291878) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 29 23:12:33 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:18 2015. lolrofl |
|
|
| (1291891) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Sat May 30 07:24:13 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:25 2015. Sorry, troll, but you Fail. Both the Fourth and Ninth Circuit appellate courts have rejected this argument unless the act involves the unauthorized accessing of a “protected” computer with the intent either (a) to obtain information, (b) to further a fraud, or (c) to damage the computer or its data. There also has to be damages.Don't pout, little boy....one day you'll graduate from elementary school and will be able to play with the big boys. |
|
|
| (1291911) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 30 12:52:09 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Nilet on Fri May 29 22:24:25 2015. IAWTP |
|
|
| (1291921) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Sat May 30 15:38:55 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 30 12:52:09 2015. LOL! You're barely literate; how could you understand the CAFA? |
|
|
| (1291924) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat May 30 15:59:21 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Sat May 30 15:38:55 2015. speak only for you mr mabstoa |
|
|
| (1291978) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Sun May 31 05:32:09 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Sat May 30 15:38:55 2015. You're barely literate; how could you understand the CAFA?It's CFAA. Hashtag irony. |
|
|
| (1291979) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Sun May 31 05:32:52 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Dave on Sat May 30 07:24:13 2015. 1A Both the Fourth and Ninth Circuit appellate courts have rejected this argument unless the act involves the unauthorized accessing of a “protected” computer with the intent either (a) to obtain information, (b) to further a fraud, or (c) to damage the computer or its data. There also has to be damages. Cite the cases or STFU. 1 A |
|
|
| (1292000) | |
Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Sun May 31 07:20:33 2015, in response to Re: Remembering a buddy from high school who died in Vietnam, posted by Nilet on Sun May 31 05:32:52 2015. LOL! You expect me to do your work? The cases are readily available. Since you're on break from school you should have plenty of time to find them. |
|
|
|
Page 7 of 9 |
||