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Posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015 Hello. I wanted to update all of you on why Dan Lawrence has not been on the board lately and barring some minor miracle will not be returning.Some of you may have been contacted by a member who I emailed in the winter - Dan is my father (I'm his older daughter, Karen) - I've lurked here for somewhere in the realm of five years, but this is the first time I've felt it necessary to register to post. In the last year to eighteen months, his physical health and mental state have taken a sharp decline. He is no longer capable of taking care of himself, and has declined enough that my mother is also no longer able to care for him. I'm sorry I can't share more - but I wanted to let everyone know what the situation is. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 19 01:22:12 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. I'm so terribly sorry to hear that, I'm one of his friends and he's always been a real great guy. I was hoping to get down to the museum to see him once again. If you can, please send my love and best wishes to Dan for me? I'll be praying for him. I was wondering what had happened, but that certainly does explain things. Thanks for dropping by and letting us know. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 19 01:24:11 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 19 01:22:12 2015. I should add since you probably don't know, my real name is Kevin, but he knows me best as "Selkirk.' It should get a response from him despite what's going on. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 19 01:40:19 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Karen,Yes, I passed the information on to a limited number of trustworthy members here after you emailed me over the winter. I hope, and believe, that our efforts led to a decrease in the negative attitudes towards Dan in the final months that he was on this forum. As I told you over email, I am very sorry to hear that his health has declined and I am glad that he is now being taken care of by his loving family. |
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Posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 01:47:53 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 19 01:24:11 2015. Thank you - I will pass that on to my mom and sister (I live in California, they're both in Maryland) |
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Posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 01:50:06 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 19 01:40:19 2015. Thank you - I believe it did - at least, the subject of this board seemed to come up fewer times in his more upset and frustrated moments.I also wanted to thank you again for being so decent in regards to what must have been a very strange and abrupt email to get this winter. Thank you. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 19 02:09:14 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 01:47:53 2015. Thanks! Much appreciated. He had mentioned you many times, sorry we had to meet "this way." :(I'll always remember his smiling face at the museum. If he's still responsive, might bring him a smile. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 19 02:15:32 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. My best wishes to Dan and his family and my hope that his condition improves.His posts always came across to me as by someone who is a very decent and caring man. I always liked him and I miss his contributions here. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 19 02:19:54 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. I'm very sorry to hear that. We were hoping his posts were the result of a quirky sense of humor, and it's very sad to hear he's been ill. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 19 02:32:49 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 19 02:19:54 2015. Once upon a time, they were. I've known Dan since around 2003, and he did love to play with those who took things too seriously. I thought that was still the thing. :( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 19 02:41:02 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Very sorry to hear about your dad's troubles. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 19 03:52:09 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Karen, I am so sorry to hear this. This is extremelyvsad news. Thank you for letting us know. Your dad had been a staple hear and am so sorry to learn he's I'll. My thoughts for you and your family....and please let your dad know we are thinking of him and miss him. All the best....AMD let's hope for a miracle. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 19 03:52:29 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. I am so sorry to.hear it. Here's to a speedy recovery. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Apr 19 03:58:10 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. I am so sorry to.hear it. Here's to a speedy recovery. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 19 04:05:54 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 19 02:19:54 2015. Yeah, I was hoping the same.It was too terrible to think of the other alternative. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun Apr 19 05:45:03 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. I did not know Dan Lawrence, but only knew of him as a poster here. This is very sad news to hear.My thoughts are with you and your Dad and family. |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Apr 19 05:54:44 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. I'm so very sorry to hear that and hope there is some improvement in his condition. He was a valued member of this community and a lot of fun to lock horns with on some subjects. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sun Apr 19 07:09:41 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. So sorry to hear this news. Prayers to him and the family. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Apr 19 07:33:55 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Very sorry to hear his health has declined so. Please let him know that Dave wishes him well and hopes to "see" him here on SubChat again. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 19 07:52:25 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 19 04:05:54 2015. Yes....totally agreed. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 19 08:11:16 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. That's too bad. I'm sorry to hear about it. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 19 08:12:01 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 19 02:19:54 2015. Agreed. :-( |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 19 09:04:57 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. My thoughts and prayers go out to him, his wife and children. That is so sad, to become disconnected from life in this way. May he at least have the chance so see his beloved streetcars sometime during his convalescence. Might help his mood. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Apr 19 11:28:01 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015.  Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Apr 19 12:29:37 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. get well soon |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 19 19:48:44 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Thank you for taking the time to update his extended network of friends at subchat. I wish the best to him, to you, and all of his friends here. I will be thinking of him and keep him in my prayers. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Apr 19 20:05:33 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. I sincerely wish Dan well. As this thread attests, he is surrounded and supported by family and friends, which is one in the same, for we are family. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 19 20:48:11 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Dan, please get Well Again Dan Lawrence! |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sun Apr 19 21:39:22 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Terrible news and I am really sorry to hear this. I wish All The Best to Dan and his Family during this troubling time. May all of his health issues get resolved and a Happy And Healthy Life be regained. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Apr 19 22:40:47 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Thanks for letting us know what's going on with Dan.He's in my prayers as are you and the rest of your family. Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 20 01:11:31 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. I'm sorry to hear that. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Apr 20 09:52:34 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Very sorry to hear :( |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 11:12:44 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. 
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Posted by pd11604 on Mon Apr 20 16:09:01 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Very sorry to hear that news. Dan and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers. I went through a similar situation with my mom last year. Hang in there. |
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Posted by FritoKAL on Mon Apr 20 16:37:10 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 11:12:44 2015. Wow, did you really think this was appropriate? I'm in tears that you're using the image used to so often make fun of my father in this thread. He's DYING and you're making fun of him. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 18:09:38 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Mon Apr 20 16:37:10 2015. Actually, I'm one of a couple people here who never did make fun of your father. You should call out some of the hypocrites.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Apr 20 18:39:17 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 18:09:38 2015. A REAL APOLOGY WOULD GO A LONG WAY,FREDDIE. |
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Posted by FritoKAL on Mon Apr 20 18:44:50 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 18:09:38 2015. You posted with no explanation a graphic that has continually been used to mock my father ~in a thread where I have just posted that he is seriously ill~. I would have hoped you would have taken the time to think "Is this going to be received well by someone who has just told us that her father is very seriously ill and is probably super upset about that because it's her DAD?"To answer that question, no, it was not. It was a painful reminder of my father's decline over the last eighteen months. It was not cute, funny or clever, it did not make me laugh and I cannot imagine what on earth would have made you think it was appropriate, especially given that in my post I stated that part of my father's illness has affected his mental health. Everyone else here - regardless of previous behavior - has wished him and/or our family well. I see nothing like that in your comment. Furthermore (in case anyone was worried) I have no intention of calling out anyone for their past behavior. Everyone has the chance for redemption and forgiveness. If people are now taking a moment to think "Oh, maybe I should have stopped and been more patient" - that is entirely up to them, and it is not my job to come in scolding anyone for their previous actions. |
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Posted by DANd124 on Mon Apr 20 18:53:09 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Sorry to hear that, best wishes to your father and the rest of your family. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Apr 20 19:00:03 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. I never met Dan Lawrence, however, I used to enjoy his back & forth banter with other contributors to this forum. All I can say is hang in there, Karen. Im a firm believer in that where there is life, there's hope. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 20 19:44:05 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 11:12:44 2015. You have no class. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 19:45:16 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Mon Apr 20 18:44:50 2015. I posted that as a reminder to the board of how crummy they've been. Sorry you're offended and as for me being civil and courteous to your father while the others were mocking him, you're welcome. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 19:51:10 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Apr 20 18:39:17 2015. There's been no mention on the main board of this and what child of an ill poster would come back and fight? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 20 19:53:55 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 19:51:10 2015. But even though you didn't expect Dan's daughter to see it, and even though you didn't indulge in bad behavior yourself, it was still in bad taste. |
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Posted by FritoKAL on Mon Apr 20 19:54:20 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 19:51:10 2015. "and what child of an ill poster would come back and fight? "One who has spent twenty years on the internet. If you want to further discuss how you do not believe me, please email me at the above address. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 19:54:21 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 20 19:44:05 2015. LOL how would you know? |
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Posted by FritoKAL on Mon Apr 20 20:00:14 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 19:45:16 2015. "sorry you're offended" is a crappy non-apology that doesn't take into account your actions. Not accepted.In addition - no, I did not nor do I thank you. My father before -and from what I can see even during- his decline was perfectly capable of standing up for himself. No reminder was needed or asked for. Had I wanted one, I would have given some dismissive scolding statement in my first post. |
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Posted by FritoKAL on Mon Apr 20 20:03:50 2015, in response to Re: Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 20 19:53:55 2015. Considering I'd already said I'd been lurking here for a while -and- had come back and replied to a few comments, you'd think he'd have realized. |
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Posted by FritoKAL on Mon Apr 20 20:06:14 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Sun Apr 19 00:58:16 2015. Thank you to everyone who has responded and passed on messages and emails of hope and support. I'm a little overwhelmed (in a good way) - there's simply too many to reply to individually but I have read every comment and am passing on those thoughts to my mother and sister as well. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 20 20:11:07 2015, in response to Regarding Dan Lawrence, posted by FritoKAL on Mon Apr 20 20:00:14 2015. No it's a good non-apology.As for Dan, I hope the best for him and I hope he recovers quickly. He's a good man and I've learned a lot from him over the years on the main board. |
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