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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 11:35:20 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 11:24:59 2015.

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Apology accepted.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 12:21:30 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Mar 1 09:07:55 2015.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 1 12:51:28 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 1 08:14:22 2015.

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Presidential elections are different because only a small percentage of the population decides them. IMO race has even less effect on one.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 13:01:49 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 1 12:51:28 2015.

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Indeed.

And since US Blacks predictably vote the Democratic candidate by over 90% regardless of who the nominee is, their influence in the final result is even less notable.

Obama's success with Hispanics is what got him over the top as was the case with George W. Bush in 2004.

His numbers among blacks were not substantially different than what Gore and Kerry got and any bump in black turnout was more than offset by whites who wouldn't vote for a black guy named "Hussein" but would have voted for a Hillary or (pre-scandal) John Edwards.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 1 13:09:35 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 1 01:41:49 2015.

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You are the biggest fraud of all.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 13:36:30 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 1 13:09:35 2015.

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Is your name SelkirkTMO?

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 13:37:58 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 13:01:49 2015.

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There's also CMM's "white liberal guilt" argument. But those are people who would have voted for Clinton or Edwards as well.

The one possible argument I can see is that Obama might not have won the Democratic nomination if he had had exactly the same record and personality and been white. But then we would have had Clinton for the last 6 years, not McCain or Romney.


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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 13:44:37 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 1 08:41:36 2015.

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Exactly what you are attempting to do with me. SMAZ brought it up, and YOU know it. And Salaam? You know exact5ly what he was "IAWITing" to.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 13:45:46 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 1 08:14:22 2015.

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That is correct. Even though over 90% of Black voters voted along racial lines for Obama, enough whites had to also to get Obama elected of course.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 13:48:29 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 13:01:49 2015.

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Hispanics that are assimilated, as they have been, and as they do better and better have often not predictably voted Democraticly, such as Blacks do. Also, if I am not mistaken, Hispanics are a bigger percentage of population than Blacks are.
It's more the poorer Hispanics, that look for handouts, that blindly vote Democratic.

Interestingly, the Democratic elite use the poor as pawns to keep them elected.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 1 14:00:57 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Feb 28 21:22:18 2015.

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Hispanics are 16% of the country buy only 10% of those on food stamps! Luch and CMM claim that immigrants on welfare is major problem

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 14:06:05 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 13:45:46 2015.

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But 90% of black voters voted for Kerry too, and 90% will vote for Hillary in 2016. So what's this about voting along racial lines? It seems to me that blacks are much more likely to vote for someone not of their race than white southerners.





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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 14:11:24 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 28 22:07:26 2015.

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Chris has a degree in Internet psychology. He knows the motivation behind people's posts.



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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 14:14:45 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 13:37:58 2015.

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Hillary lost the 2008 Dem primary because she was consistently wrong on the Iraq War while Barack was prescient.

No other reason.



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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 14:15:05 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 13:44:37 2015.

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What did SMAZ bring up?

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 14:22:15 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 14:14:45 2015.

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BULLSHIT.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps?

Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 1 14:48:26 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps?, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 11:30:29 2015.

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+99.9

Your pal
Fred

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 14:58:11 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 1 07:29:54 2015.

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It's right there in the OP.

Fred G and Selkirk attack me when you started that Colorado thread. You started it because you clearly wanted a certain outcome. You even say so.



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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by Dave on Sun Mar 1 15:05:21 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 11:34:50 2015.

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+1

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 15:15:41 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 1 08:14:22 2015.

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I'll bet nationwide there are enough "Russian" bennies to skew the numbers slightly. And I won't even get into individual vs. household bennies. Leave that to SMAZZA and AlM. Got to be over 1,000,000 "Russian" bennies in this country. That's probably low.

the same way there aren't enough Black people living in the US to influence the outcome of a Presidential election all by themselves.

?

And you are a journalist? One who appears to have issues with white heterosexuals, then you and Fred will gang up on me when I did not even start this thread(or recent threads about the NAACP, Ferguson, Zimmerman).

Without black voters, Obama 2008 would not have won NC, VA and Indiana. Florida would be closer.

That's what Leftists fear in 2016. If somehow the candidate is a white male, black turnout drops and it's tougher fight.




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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 15:18:27 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 13:44:37 2015.

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Italianstallion brought it up in much more detailed fashion.

And this thread is about race. Or race and foodstamps. It certainly isn't about foodstamps alone.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 15:22:23 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 11:34:50 2015.

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They are white.

But for the categorization of food stamp bennies, they really are immigrants, usually Jewish or Muslim. Uzbek, Chechan, and other so-called "Russian" groups.

Did you hear about the "Russians" caught in Brooklyn for plotting an attack in name of allah? I'd love to know if any of them were on food stamps.

All of these asylum bennies should be identified in their own category.



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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 15:24:26 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 14:15:05 2015.

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Lol

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 15:26:28 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 15:18:27 2015.

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Of course not, and everyone knows that....

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 15:27:43 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 1 14:00:57 2015.

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Many Hispanics are considered white

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 15:28:49 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 14:06:05 2015.

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Only because there aren't many black candidates

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 1 15:29:27 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 13:44:37 2015.

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..................................ok

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 15:29:52 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 14:11:24 2015.

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Lol!

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 1 15:36:45 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 1 13:36:30 2015.

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FYCM

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps(by HOUSEHOLD)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 15:49:00 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 1 14:00:57 2015.

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There you go again, dand124.

You are the person I fear most on this board. Therefore I usually try to avoid interacting with you. You did not even comment about SWA grounding planes.

So let's do this.

First of all, this is by HOUSEHOLD. Hispanics tend to have bigger families. According to Nielsen, which gets numbers from the Census, Hispanics represent about 14.5 million of the 113 million households in AMerica.

DO THE MATH. There's a noticeable difference between HOUSEHOLDS as percentage of population and TOTAL POPULATION of the Hispanic demographic.

Hispanics are about 12.8% of US HOUSEHOLDS. And of those, you have to consider multi-generational Hispanics who have been here for a long time. They are much different than the Corona Queens or Brentwood, or Ruskin, Florida households on SNAP.

And in my past blasts on Food Stamps, I've always complained about the "asylum" demographic, rarely about Hispanics on welfare. You assume immigrants = Hispanics?? Not to me.

So thanks for trolling me. Trolling for no reason.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 15:49:17 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 15:28:49 2015.

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That may or may not be true, but is irrelevant. Might it be that there aren't that many black candidates in general elections because even in primaries blacks are more likely to vote for whites than whites for blacks? Not sure, but it's one possibly reason.





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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 16:23:13 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 1 15:49:17 2015.

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Again, its quite relevant

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 16:42:32 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 1 15:18:27 2015.

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I brought it up in response to GP Chris.

Specifically, to this post of his -

"So you agree, that Blacks are disproportionally on it. There are 6 times the amount of whites than blacks in the country.....12% black vs 72% whites....yet whites are only 2.5 times as many blacks on it......they should be SIX times as many on it for it to be proportionate to population. Hats sobering how many blacks are on it vs whites."


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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 16:43:16 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 1 14:00:57 2015.

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There you go again, bringing race into it.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Mar 1 16:48:07 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 1 13:48:29 2015.

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Poor Hispanics don't vote Republicans bc they talk about illegal immigration as if immigrants are barbarians about to knock down the purely gates of the Roman Empire. Many have or someone in their family probably were illegal immigrants at some point.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 17:11:01 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 16:42:32 2015.

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Which is in response to salaams post....and everyone knows what salaam was agreeing with....

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 17:12:36 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 16:43:16 2015.

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How come you aren't telling the leftists the same, specifically the op

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 17:13:28 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Mar 1 16:48:07 2015.

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Lol!!!

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 1 17:19:37 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 17:11:01 2015.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 17:27:43 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 09:59:29 2015.

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Hi, Uncle Leo.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 1 17:31:40 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 1 17:27:43 2015.

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What's doing Mitty.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 17:34:26 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 17:11:01 2015.

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Nah, you never stereotype.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 17:34:59 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 17:12:36 2015.

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Because he never mentioned race - you were the first in the thread to do so.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 17:36:01 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 15:27:43 2015.

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The chart by the USDA specifically categorizes non-Hispanic Whites and Hispanics (any race) as separate.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 17:37:21 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 1 14:00:57 2015.

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One must be a legal resident for 5 or more years to be eligible for SNAP.

Many Hispanic have not been here that long while many others are undocumented and never eligible.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Mar 1 18:03:01 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Feb 28 21:22:18 2015.

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So there are 6 times the amount of whites, as there are Blacks, 12% of the country is Black, vs 72% White....so there are 6 times the amount of whites than Blacks, .yet whites are only 2.5 times the amount of whites on welfare. Thank you for proving Blacks are much more likely than whites to be on such.

The country is 63 percent non-Hispanic white; 72 percent includes Hispanic.

Looking at it a little differently, non-Hispanic whites make up 42 percent of Americans living below the poverty line, while Blacks make up 22 percent. That's a bit closer the distribution of SNAP recipients.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 18:05:23 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 17:34:26 2015.

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Please. We're talking salaam here

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 18:06:10 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 1 17:34:59 2015.

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Uh huh....we all know that's not what smaz was doing.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 1 18:06:51 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 18:05:23 2015.

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Re: Who Gets Food Stamps

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 1 18:07:16 2015, in response to Re: Who Gets Food Stamps, posted by SMAZ on Sun Mar 1 17:36:01 2015.

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Hispanic isn't a race, and many white Hispanics associate as whites.

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