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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 17:00:52 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 16:55:21 2015.

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You have a wife and got married in a church. Therefore you are a good man in my book and I won't debate with you.



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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 17:19:09 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 16:57:35 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"Yes, it's not discriminatory to show a white person as a burglar, but it is to show a black person as a burglar in let's say a home security system commercial."

I'm surprised why people don't understand why this is so.

Whites are the dominant group in America. They are 77% of the population. Whites are, like it or not, the "default" image of Americans. Showing them is as good is OK; showing them as bad is OK. By showing a burglar to be white, you are not insulting whites or stereotyping them as burgers, you are just indicating the statistical likelihood of reality.

Blacks are 13% of the population, and have been stereotyped as criminals for hundreds of years. By showing a black as a burglar, you are feeding into that negative, and false, stereotype, and confirming the erroneous views of bigots.

As a white person, it does not bother me in the least that whites are shown as burglars in commercials. I am secure enough to realize that, as part of the vast majority, no one will think a white burglar image has any negative effect on me.

But I can certainly understand it if black people, being such a small minority, would be offended by depictions of black people as burglars given the sad history of stereotyping and discrimination.



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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 17:25:53 2015, in response to Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jan 27 23:48:03 2015.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 28 17:48:46 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 17:19:09 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'd say "excellent post," except for the fact that it's all so obvious. Of course, the conservatives will call you a racist and a "WUT."

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 28 17:54:58 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 17:19:09 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But when does this "sad history" finally end? Everybody has to stop harping on the past and move forward. If a white guy is the burglar, like in the Sloman's Shield commercials, so be it. If a black guy is the burglar, so be it also.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 17:58:41 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 28 17:54:58 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It ends when guys like you finally STFU about it.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 18:01:08 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 28 00:10:41 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Advertisement doesn't care about percentage of population. They only see types of customers so to them, Black, White, Yellow are equal. If you want to market to people then show them in a commercial.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jan 28 18:12:36 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jan 28 07:02:27 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They've also learned to be careful about kids lecturing parents. The advertisers thought they were portraying "modern and up-to-date" vs. "old-fashioned"; instead they were alienating their older consumers as they saw "your kids are smarter than you, OLD MAN."

Are you sure? It may depend on the time slot. Saturday morning, for instance, tended to have commercials where kids are more dominant or smarter.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jan 28 18:18:46 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 28 17:00:17 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Maybe part of it has to do with the demographic of the area?

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by SLRT on Wed Jan 28 18:21:19 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jan 28 18:12:36 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Saturday morning, hmmm. Wonder why THAT could be?

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:21:52 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jan 28 18:18:46 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It has nothing to do with that.

Most of the ads are national.

Madison Avenue knows that the Al Sharpton's keep racial scorecard and will cause problems if they don't like the racial makeup on television commercials and print ads.

There is an effort to make sure blacks are maybe overrepresented in commercials. Makes sense. That's the mood in AMerica right now. THIW.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 18:28:58 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:21:52 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope, advertisers just want to market all groups.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jan 28 18:35:16 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 28 17:54:58 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It ends when elderly black people with a legal concealed permit stop being tackled to the ground in a Walmart because people thought he was an armed robber.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:37:33 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 18:28:58 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That is part of it.

There is an effort to avoid problems. No one wants to be accused of racism.

Print ads like to promote interracial black male/white female couples. This will continue until black females get mad about it.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jan 28 18:37:40 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jan 28 18:21:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm just pointing out your statement can't be applied to all commercials on broadcast TV.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:38:59 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 28 17:54:58 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL.

That white guy is so lame in the commercial. It's so funny.

The home invader should be a "teen" named Deonte.



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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 18:40:19 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:37:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, they want to sell products to all demographics. The best way to sell your product is to have someone who looks like your potential customer using or talking about it. That's all.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 18:46:42 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 23:53:00 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There is not percentage of population in advertisement. They want to sell to white, black and yellow people and so they show them in advertisements without regard to proportion of population. The best way to sell you something is to show somebody who looks like you using or talking about the product. It works.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:55:14 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 18:46:42 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They go out of their way not only to overrepresent blacks in number, but in status. Blacks with a nice big home and nice car in an upscale suburb. Blacks in a business suit, when in reality, whites and Asians seem to be the executives these days. Not in the world of television commercials.


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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:00:14 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 18:40:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yep. But we can say this 100 times, the crowd here won't get it.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:01:42 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 28 17:48:46 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sadly, you are right.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:03:48 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 28 17:54:58 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Look, I agree that we need to work towards a world when any group can be portrayed in any way and no one blinks an eye about it. But we are not there yet as long as people still believe false stereotypes.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:05:48 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 18:01:08 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
+1

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 19:06:00 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:55:14 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There are many professional black consumers, enough to warrant that kind of advertising. It's not just executives but doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects, whatever. BMW wants to sell them cars. ReMax wants to sell them houses.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:09:06 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:55:14 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's the blacks with money that can afford the advertised products.

PS, there are quite a few blacks in executive positions. Maybe not in Florida . . . ;-)

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:19:04 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 16:55:21 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, this country worships blacks.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:20:20 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:21:52 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Congrats. You're back in my good graces.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 19:23:04 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:19:04 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Indeed. That is why the average income of blacks is so much higher than that of whites.


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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:25:17 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:19:04 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why are you so insecure about your whiteness?

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 19:26:54 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:20:20 2015.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 28 19:27:32 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 18:38:59 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Actually, if accuracy is what we're looking for, then the burglar should be a meth head called Dwayne Elroy. :)

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:27:48 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:25:17 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Unlike you, I am proud of my whiteness.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:28:52 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 28 19:27:32 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Jorge Mario Bergoglio

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:30:17 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 28 19:27:32 2015.

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So true.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:30:44 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:27:48 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Then stop having a persecution complex.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:36:33 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:30:44 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Can you, or have you ever said, I am proud to be white?

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 28 19:39:08 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 17:58:41 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But the problem is that if ADT or whoever shows a black person as a burglars it wouldn't be "so be it"..... People in your camp would pull out the race card.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 28 19:41:10 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:03:48 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But when 13% of the population demographic does 6 times the crime rate of the 74% demographic that's a real issue.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 19:44:24 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:36:33 2015.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 19:50:24 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 28 19:39:08 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It doesn't bother me that the burglars in commercials are white.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 28 19:51:01 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 19:50:24 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Or that anyone actually sits through ADT commercials. :)

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 28 19:52:48 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 28 19:51:01 2015.

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Jorge Mario Bergoglio

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 28 19:55:17 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 19:50:24 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Me either....but again, if they were black it would be an uproar.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jan 28 20:46:19 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 28 19:23:04 2015.

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+10

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 28 21:46:33 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 18:01:08 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nobody said anything about equality here. but if being "equal" means that white folk can be portrayed as being the silly or goofy or nonsensical in commercials where there is a black person as the more rational or smarter person, then the opposite should also be shown. else it's merely pandering by upper income white folk who really haven't been around many black folk. basically, more racial hijinks by the white devils. i'm reminded of those verses in that pointer sisters' jam: "no smiling faces, lying to the races".

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 28 21:51:36 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:00:14 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
stop hating! damn, that all you do on this board? shameful.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 21:54:44 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 28 21:46:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
White people can be portrayed as goofy for the next 50 years and it will still be a lot easier than what the black race has endured. Blacks had been portrayed as shiftless, lazy dumbasses for much of American media history. Now the shoe is on the other foot (mildly) and you cry like a bitch.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 21:55:37 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jan 28 19:09:06 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
As a man with a wife whom he married in a Catholic church in Astoria, you should not even be around here.

No, there is a very small percentage of blacks in high positions. That may change, but now reality is what it is. Norman Lear could not change that with The Jefferson's and Madison Avenue can't change that today.



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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 21:58:15 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 28 19:06:00 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
there aren't many professional black consumers.

there are some. whites and Asians would dominate that category. and along gender lines, that's changing too.

I think ad agencies are as worried about the mood in AMerica as much as selling product.

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Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 28 21:59:50 2015, in response to Re: Why is it that you never see a black person being the goofy one on tv commercials?, posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 28 21:46:33 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You need to follow Jayman's blog.

In general, black males are Alpha Males. White community produces more George Costanza types than the black community does.



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