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Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Dec 22 17:48:18 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 17:39:15 2014. Now, now. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 22 17:48:24 2014, in response to #handsup; Black Democrat shoots 2 cops..., posted by orange blossom special on Mon Dec 22 16:17:24 2014. Corrected further |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 17:49:34 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Dec 22 17:48:18 2014. We can disagree and still be friends.I'll still buy him a bologna sandwich. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 22 17:57:51 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Dec 22 17:48:18 2014. lol |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 18:05:25 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 16:34:33 2014.  your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 18:34:24 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 17:24:24 2014. Howard University was long one of the few places where southern blacks could get an education. There were all-black colleges because those were the only ones blacks could attend. Dinkins attended Howard when segregation was still in full force. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 18:43:37 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 18:34:24 2014. Tuskegee was another. Those schools are legitimate seats of learning and just carried through their "blackness" into recent times. They could of course be more integrated through affirmative action I guess.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Dec 22 19:10:07 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 18:05:25 2014. That picture is becoming so appropriate around here, it should be stored on site. :-) |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 19:13:13 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by 3-9 on Mon Dec 22 19:10:07 2014. We do have a Jacket Club and SMAZ announces the winners every year.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Dec 22 19:32:24 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by 3-9 on Mon Dec 22 16:27:01 2014. +1. At the very least police dept's can listen to communities have a discussions community meetings etc about concerns in these communities I mean ACT like they care would go a long way. Having community events, in impoverished communities listening to sugestions from residents would go a long way to smoothing over relationships in these communities. In a Instead most police dept's esp in NYC are very dismissive and just not caring for concerns of these communities. Stop and Frisk of course didn't help. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Dec 22 19:42:41 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 16:16:35 2014. That's what I would have expected. I only met him once...o.n a MOD trip over 10 years ago. Nice guy in person. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 19:53:21 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 16:13:34 2014. Then you should admit that your theater metaphor was misplaced. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 20:04:02 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 16:50:15 2014. Please explain "The Talk"???How would it have save Michael Brown? "Son, when you go into a store with your friends to rob and assault people and fight cops who wrongfully respond.............", Fill me in. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 20:05:21 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Dec 22 17:15:57 2014. LOL.#irrelevant2theElement |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Dec 22 20:05:25 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 18:43:37 2014. That's assuming they're getting a lot of white (or at least non-African-American) applicants. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 20:06:38 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Dec 22 17:24:56 2014. LOL.Yeah. And the he paid for the items in the store and never assaulted the clerk. Totally innocent. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 20:06:50 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 20:04:02 2014. Stop goading. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 20:15:03 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 20:06:50 2014. #irrelevant2theElementI'm making sense. That's something many black people and white liberals want to avoid when talking about these topics. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 20:17:29 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 20:06:38 2014. Actually, here's the store's surveillance video, which shows Brown paying for the cigars, and it's only after the clerk has the money (you can see the clerk with Brown's cash in hand at 0:36), does there appear to be any kind of "shoving".The store owner's lawyer says no one from the store actually called the police; that was done by a customer who thought he witnessed a robbery. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 21:03:48 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by 3-9 on Mon Dec 22 16:27:01 2014. EXCELLENT POST! Watch the "centrists" here call you a racist. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 21:44:46 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by 3-9 on Mon Dec 22 20:05:25 2014. I dunno, sounds kind of like a guy applying to Vassar or another thematic college.your pal, fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 21:51:40 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 20:17:29 2014. Is that the hood version?Where's the part where he leaves the store and the clerk confronts him and gets shoved? Oh, your element can't watch that part. The fact you pick the shorter version is evidence of element. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Dec 22 22:02:32 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 22 19:53:21 2014. But its not. Its just as dangerous |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Dec 22 22:05:17 2014, in response to #evidenceoftheElement(Re: 2 COPS SHOT), posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 21:51:40 2014. WowThe journalist posted the short version so as not to get the full story. Wow...just wow. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Dec 22 22:42:54 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 17:24:24 2014. Howard is an Historically black college. They exist bc when they were created blacks weren't allowed to go to other ones. Do u have any evidence Howard is rejecting kids bc they are not black? Have any stats on how many whites apply to Howard and how many meeting the schools standards are rejected? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 22 22:59:46 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Dec 20 18:33:45 2014. I think Wilson and Pantaleo should both be rotting in jail for what they didThere were you are, once AGAIN, wrong. It's one thing to think that maybe they should have been indicted and had their day in court. But to think that not only did they commit a crime but that they should also rot in jail, without there even having been a trial yet, is just plain wrong. It makes you look incredibly shallow, stupid, and biased. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 23:18:44 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 22 22:59:46 2014. OK, I think they should have been tried, convicted, and rotting in jail.You knew full well what I was saying. More word humping from the turtle. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 23:19:23 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 18:34:24 2014. And what is its excuse now for being a bastion of racist learning? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 23:23:53 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 23:18:44 2014. How bout stopping at "tried". That's the only objective choice.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 23:25:02 2014, in response to Re: #evidenceoftheElement(Re: 2 COPS SHOT), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Dec 22 22:05:17 2014. I noticed that the clerk was so impressed that Michael Brown paid for those items that he actually came out from behind the counter to thank him, too. Well that certainly changes my mind. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 23:27:25 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by 3-9 on Mon Dec 22 16:27:01 2014. I guess that you were unimpressed with the statistics that I posted yesterday. 123 black men killed while being apprehended in 2013 out of 12 million arrests, 324 of all other groups during the same time. Hmmmm. What percentage was that, again? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 23:28:32 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by FtGreeneG on Mon Dec 22 22:42:54 2014. So now what is their excuse for maintaining their racist hiring and admissions policies? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 22 23:31:11 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 23:23:53 2014. ding ding ding -- we have a winner |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 22 23:32:00 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 23:18:44 2014. That's just as bad. No word humping. Just you being completely wrong. I thought you were supposed to be a journalist. How can you say stuff like this then? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 22 23:33:53 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 22 22:59:46 2014. There were you are...Oh man, that should have said: "That's where you are...". |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 23:34:56 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 23:19:23 2014. Please show me examples from Howard University's curriculum that make the school a "bastion of racist learning". What you're implying, is that the HU faculty can't objectively teach their students. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 23:49:11 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 22 23:34:56 2014. The fact that they have a student body that's 92.7% black and a faculty that's 73.2% black when blacks make up only 12%of the population is a pretty strong indicator. Where is there affirmative action policy to recruit white students and white faculty? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 23 00:41:42 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 13:59:17 2014. If you had a son from a black woman, he'd look like Dante or Trayvon.Only an irresponsible parent would not thoroughly educate that child about the everyday perils of pervasive prejudice. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Dec 23 00:42:39 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 23:28:32 2014. An interesting article I actually read a vouples wks ago about this. The whole article here [url]http://time.com/2907332/historically-black-colleges-increasingly-serve-white-students/[\url]'Historically Black Colleges Are Becoming More White An average of one in four students at traditionally black schools in the U.S. is a different race than the one the college was intended to serve When junior Brandon Kirby brought home an award from a national biomedical conference, it was a nice boost for his small college in a dying coal town in the heart of Appalachia.It also seemed incongruous, given that the conference was for minorities, the college is historically black — and Kirby is white.So are 82 percent of the students at West Virginia’s Bluefield State College, which nonetheless qualifies for a share of the more than a quarter of a billion dollars a year in special funding thefederal government set asidefor historically black colleges and universities in 2011, the last year for which figures are available. These schools, known as HBCUs, can also apply for federal loans through the Historically Black College and University Capital Financing Program. Last year, they got $303 million from that program, on top of $1.1 billion in previously approved loans.The HBCU designation was created by Congress in 1965 to refer to any accredited school “established prior to 1964, whose principal mission was, and is, the education of black Americans.”HBCU’s have always enrolled students of all races, but they are increasingly becoming less black. At some, like Bluefield, blacks now comprise less than half of the student body. At Lincoln University in Missouri, African-Americans account for 40 percent of enrollment while at Alabama’s Gadsden State Community College, 71 percent of the students are white and just 21 percent are black. The enrollment at St. Philip’s College in Texas is half Hispanic and 13 percent black, according to 2011 enrollment data from the U.S. Department of Education. Nationwide, an average of one in four HBCU students is a different race than the one the school was intended to serve, according toresearch conducted at the University of Pennsylvania’s Graduate School of Education.Many HBCUs were started under segregation to provide African-Americans with higher education opportunities. After integration, they became seen as places for black students to overcome economic and educational inequities. Indeed, HBCUs have been instrumental in developing the black middle class, graduating substantial numbers of teachers, engineers and other professionals. But as schools that had been predominantly white opened their doors to other races, black students became scarcer at historically black colleges. To survive, the universities have had to market themselves to all students.But George Cooper, the executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs, says such wild demographic swings are a testament to the modern-day flexibility of HBCUs. These schools still are, and always will be, legally considered historically black, he said.“The definition is a federal definition,” Cooper says. “They’re living up to it.”Congress has never stipulated whether an institution could continue to be considered historically black if it became mostly white. The legislation that gives the schools their largest pool of money says only that they have “contributed significantly to the effort to attain equal opportunity through postsecondary education for black, low-income, and educationally disadvantaged Americans.”Not everyone agrees. Economist Richard Vedder favors eliminating special funding for HBCU’s on the grounds that all schools should receive money based on present realities, not historic mission. “If you’re going to give subsidies for institutions, you shouldn’t give it on the basis of some sort of historical [legacy],” says Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity.At Bluefield, officials and students contend they haven’t strayed from their original mission for the same reason Kirby and his classmates are allowed to participate in the biomedical conference.“We’re all considered minorities because we’re in a poverty state,” Kirby says, referring to West Virginia.' |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 23 00:45:56 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 14:53:23 2014. He went to Howard because the color of his skin would not have allowed him anywhere else. Either that or become an actual washroom attendant.But of course as an SDS member in good standing you probably already knew that. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 23 00:49:03 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 16:18:00 2014. Today's History Question for Train Dude:Who made Howard U into a race-based institution and why? Why was it set up that way? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:16 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 14:11:46 2014. No I didn't.And I did. Case closed. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:33 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 14:10:17 2014. How can you be more of a NYer than someone who is born here in the city?You may have been born here, but you certainly don't act like it. Real New Yorkers don't act like racist scum. Oh big deal, I misspelled a word! Yes, but you have to appreciate the irony of misspelling the word "erroneous" while accusing me of misspelling something that I actually spelled correctly. YOU were the one complaining about getting stopped there by the police! No, I haven't. You made up some run-in I supposedly had at Broad Channel that never happened, with a "buddy" you made up, where I had a NJ or PA license I don't have. You mentioned this supposed run-in with the police— when was it? Who was this "buddy" I supposedly had with me? Where did I post this? The lst comment certainly did NOT go over my head, it was just nonsense that did not have anything to do what we were talking about. That you don't understand it proves it went over your head. That's kind of what the phrase means. And you can't even admit that you're a foreigner! I can't "admit" it because it's not true. I'm a New Yorker who has never lived anywhere else. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:35 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 14:20:04 2014. Ooh, close(r) but no cigar! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:38 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 14:31:51 2014. Wrong again, Bill! Why do you keep being wrong? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:40 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 22 14:56:48 2014. 
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 23 00:54:41 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 22 14:20:04 2014. LOL! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 23 00:55:36 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Dec 22 15:50:06 2014. lots of white anarchists. Nowadays they prefer the term "Tea Partiers". |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 23 00:56:35 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 22 18:05:25 2014. HAHA! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 01:28:39 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by The Silence on Mon Dec 22 16:39:36 2014. Nope. No bells.Sorry, it never happened. |
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