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XPrivacy

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 05:04:02 2014

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Selkirk, have you ever heard of the XPrivacy app? It purports to be an Android app that will feed blank or false data to apps which demand excessive permissions (so that flashlight app can report to its master that you're on Christmas Island and all of your contacts are cartoon characters).

Of course, it requires root access to make this work, but XDA seems to think it's legit.

Let me guess, iOS has this feature by default and KNOS doesn't need it because no apps can demand excessive permissions anyway? :)

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KNOS For Phones

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 05:06:30 2014, in response to XPrivacy, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 05:04:02 2014.

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So how's a touchscreen-friendly KNOS for ARM coming along? Tizen and Ubuntu phones are dead and Android is becoming less friendly so this is the perfect time for the Selkirk Special™ phone to be released now with super-secure KNOS!

Or did Apple make you sign a noncompete agreement? :(

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Re: XPrivacy

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 24 08:39:34 2014, in response to XPrivacy, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 05:04:02 2014.

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LOL! So you want your apps to be free but you don't want to give up anything in exchange?! Same goes for apps you pay for. Why not simply NOT install the apps that demand too many permissions??????

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Re: XPrivacy

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 08:44:13 2014, in response to Re: XPrivacy, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 24 08:39:34 2014.

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LOL! So you want your apps to be free but you don't want to give up anything in exchange?!

I said that where? Oh right, Errapin Stati just made it up. That's another lie. Maybe I should be making a list.

Same goes for apps you pay for.

Well if I pay for it, aren't I giving up money in exchange?

Why not simply NOT install the apps that demand too many permissions??????

Because I want to use them?

Honestly, that's like responding to someone asking about security software by saying: "Why not simply NOT use the internet?" With superfluous question marks, of course.

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Re: XPrivacy

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 13:34:56 2014, in response to XPrivacy, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 05:04:02 2014.

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Vaguely remember hearing some PR about it the other day on a security forum after they kinda overplayed their hand. I don't do Android as I never much cared for their idea of security, and google (who does the OS) isn't exactly the first thought I'd have as to privacy protection.

That said, their PR thing didn't show anything particularly threatening about all except for one of the apps mentioned. However there have been numerous OTHER alleged "flashlight apps" that have turned out to be banking trojans, password stealers and worse. There's even botnets now which eat up your cellular data minutes so that ISIS can surf porn on your dime. :)

iOS has a flashlight app built into the OS so that there's no need for something that needs to manipulate the hardware flashlight, that's why they did it as this was a serious issue years ago. And in KNOS, we call the flashlight app your display. You're welcome to crank up the brightness all you want. Heh.

In all seriousness though, any app that can detect and alert on excess and inappropriate system permissions itself is quite useful. But any such app would ALSO require system permissions to do that as well, so the question would be do you trust THESE guys?

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Re: KNOS For Phones

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 13:39:33 2014, in response to KNOS For Phones, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 05:06:30 2014.

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Actually they did, so I had to step away from KNOS and leave it in bingbong's hands plus my old posse. We HAVE looked into it though, and each manufacturer runs entirely different hardware inside. The phone side of the equation is an entirely separate system. So although this CAN be done (BSD has ARM code available) it would be a logistical nightmare unless a manufacturer was willing to build enough units to make a KNOS build worth the development investment.

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Re: KNOS For Phones

Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Oct 24 19:28:12 2014, in response to Re: KNOS For Phones, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 13:39:33 2014.

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I didn't know you worked for the Fruit Farm.

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Re: KNOS For Phones

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 21:11:29 2014, in response to Re: KNOS For Phones, posted by RockParkMan on Fri Oct 24 19:28:12 2014.

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Yeah, almost two years now. You can blame me for iOS 7 and 8 if you want. :)

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Re: KNOS For Phones

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 18:14:47 2014, in response to Re: KNOS For Phones, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 13:39:33 2014.

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Actually they did...

Awww. :(

So although this CAN be done (BSD has ARM code available) it would be a logistical nightmare unless a manufacturer was willing to build enough units to make a KNOS build worth the development investment.

I'll be sure to launch a kickstarter to build a KNOSphone.

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Re: XPrivacy

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 18:14:48 2014, in response to Re: XPrivacy, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 13:34:56 2014.

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From what I've seen it's apparently open source.

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Re: KNOS For Phones

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 18:14:49 2014, in response to Re: KNOS For Phones, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Oct 24 21:11:29 2014.

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I BLAME YOU! :)

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Re: KNOS For Phones

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 20:24:03 2014, in response to Re: KNOS For Phones, posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 18:14:47 2014.

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It's gonna have to be a bigger amount than they usually do. 4-1/2 million already in KNOS for peecees of up front costs, I figure making ARM chips work will be roughly similar. There are also some new 8A's out that code will need to be written for from scratch.

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Re: KNOS For Phones

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 20:25:43 2014, in response to Re: KNOS For Phones, posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 18:14:49 2014.

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Cool! :)

When it goes in right, it's actually marvelous. Just don't try it on a 4S, that shit's too old.

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Re: XPrivacy

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 25 20:30:15 2014, in response to Re: XPrivacy, posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 18:14:48 2014.

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That may be, but the PR work on it still is sorta on the level of turning on FOX News.

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