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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:35:43 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 10:31:57 2014.

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Fred's response that was not germane to the topic was typical.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:37:02 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 10:31:57 2014.

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Well I read you the wrong way and stand corrected. I won't bring it up again.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:38:06 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:37:02 2014.

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How touching.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:38:45 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:35:43 2014.

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More typical is your missing that it was in my sig and not in the body of the post, which was germane to the topic. LEL

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:40:11 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:38:06 2014.

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you're tetch'd all right


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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:40:57 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:38:45 2014.

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Then please explain how illegal aliens was germane to the topic.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:41:54 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:40:11 2014.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:49:06 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:40:57 2014.

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Here's my complete post:

The accounts say the cop didn't know he was a criminal as he didn't know about the alleged robbery. The way he's dressed in the convenience store video looks like summer wear. Where would he conceal a gun?

Cops are trained in self defense against someone larger than they, otherwise we would only hire large people to be cops. (Using Ben Stein's "his size made him armed" tactic is a fail). There's also calling for backup :)

your pal,
Spic


You and the rest of OTChat can see my post was on the mark.

WACMM

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:52:43 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:49:06 2014.

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OK, perhaps that may have been relevant, but the link with "spic", how was that germane?

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:56:08 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:52:43 2014.

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It's not, but it's in my signature and not in the body of the post. It's like bringing up another topic or an aside, like you know, "by the way, here's where you..."

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:58:58 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:56:08 2014.

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OK, I'm done with it. Keep up your great photography.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 12:48:18 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:56:42 2014.

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bull

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 12:49:47 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:44:19 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 13:02:47 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 08:19:52 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 13:16:49 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 09:25:26 2014.

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Exactly.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 13:20:34 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 10:02:36 2014.

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Nobody said anyone could.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 13:23:06 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 09:24:48 2014.

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LOL! You look like you stole the truck from the factory gate.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 13:24:27 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 09:50:10 2014.

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He still didn't. Why doesn't matter.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 13:57:25 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 09:28:25 2014.

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Quibble with a merchant? Yes. Strong-arm him out of my way so I could leave the store? Never.

Keep digging a deeper hole, bingbong. This is entertaining.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 14:08:27 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 13:57:25 2014.

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Obviously you handled it differently than Michael Brown. Bet you're not near his size.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 14:31:54 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 13:20:34 2014.

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Yet you have no problem saying that Brown was definitely surrendering and just wanted the shooting to stop

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 14:38:51 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 14:31:54 2014.

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According to multiple witnesses, yes.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 14:46:18 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 14:38:51 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 15:15:57 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 09:51:29 2014.

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One of the eye witnesses stated that Michael Brown, was fleeing the officer, turned, raised his hands, yelled "what are you gonna do, shoot me?" and then charged at the officer. That's when he fired.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 15:41:12 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 14:08:27 2014.

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Not even close to his size which is all the more reason why he shouldn't have strong-armed the storeowner.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 16:20:50 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 15:15:57 2014.

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That sounds like an unjustified shooting.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:21:01 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:56:42 2014.

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No bull. At least in my case it's not.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:21:55 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:55:38 2014.

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Thanks. I never knew that. When I mean the Government, I'm talking about elected officials, NOT police, fire, MTA, etc....

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:24:40 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:44:19 2014.

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Why do "guilty" whites ALWAYS cry racism, even when it's not there? Me agreeing with someone has NOTHING to do with racism, race, what color socks he had on.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:28:46 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 08:47:14 2014.

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Just so you know, PDs USED to hire anyone 5'10'' and over. Then the hispanics and women complained, so the balless PC pwers-that-be got rid of the height standard, hence why the PDs across the country are filled with "runts and cunts". To Quote Ben "Bubba" Ward, "We got rid of the height requirements to get more Puerto Ricans on the job, but all we got was a bunch of short, little Italians." You can't make this up.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:31:42 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 10:02:36 2014.

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I've tried playing Devil's Advocate here numerous times. When you point out a different opinion or scenario that directly conflicts with certain other people's views, instead of pondering it objectively, you are thus labeled as wrong, a RWer, a racist, a cop, retarded, stupid, dense, etc....

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:32:59 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 16:20:50 2014.

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IF that was the scenario, it most certainly IS a justified shooting if the cop feared for his life.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:35:00 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 09:16:43 2014.

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The cop, in the heat of the moment, had NO way to know this. If all he sees is Brown rushing towards him, his instinct is to stop him.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:40:14 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:57:57 2014.

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"Closet Racist"? How is it that you can freely label people who you DON'T know in real life a racist, RWer, etc.... JUST because of a different viewpoint.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by alm on Fri Aug 29 18:29:00 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 16:20:50 2014.

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Why?

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 18:44:42 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by alm on Fri Aug 29 18:29:00 2014.

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It doesn't sound that he was reasonably threatening the cop, if that is true.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 18:45:14 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:32:59 2014.

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Doesn't sound like a reasonable person should fear for his life in that scenario.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 18:51:55 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:40:14 2014.

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How is it? Simple, Bill:

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 29 19:17:55 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 18:44:42 2014.

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I don't know. If he was already punched in the eye and possibly not having binocular vision, and a really big guy is charging at him and not stopping, I can see pulling the trigger a few times. Not the ideal response but not clearly criminal either.



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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 19:35:44 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 29 19:17:55 2014.

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OK, that seems more justified.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 20:00:20 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:21:55 2014.

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Who do very little of the actual work of governing, which is implementing the policy. Those career civil servants are there actually doing the work.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 20:06:36 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:24:40 2014.

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It does when it's in lockstep with the racists. Seeing your embracing that POV 100% brings anyone to the conclusion you're one of them. You really need to think about what these attitudes mean to people.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 20:09:45 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:35:00 2014.

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No. Don't but that. After four bullet wounds, there's going to be blood. You're telling me Wilson didn't see the blood? How can you be so sure?

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 20:12:48 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:40:14 2014.

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Look, if you stop promoting the racist views, you wouldn't be considered one. Sound like a RWer, people will think you are. Simple enough.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Aug 29 20:51:44 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 17:40:14 2014.

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"'Closet Racist'? How is it that you can freely label people who you DON'T know in real life a racist, RWer, etc.... JUST because of a different viewpoint."


"If the shoe fits.....wear it"


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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Aug 29 20:52:11 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 20:12:48 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 23:33:26 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 18:51:55 2014.

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I see!

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 29 23:39:41 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Aug 29 20:51:44 2014.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 23:54:47 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 16:20:50 2014.

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That certainly is a justified shooting once the perp is aggressive within the 21 foot circle.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 30 00:01:50 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 20:12:48 2014.

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Are the views pro-police views? Yes.

Could the views be unjust for Mike Brown? Yes.

Are they racist? NOPE!

Can a LW or Centrist have a RW view or 2 and still not be RW? YEP!

Here endth the lesson.

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