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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 22:35:44 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 28 22:00:13 2014.

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Well, it appears that, IF TRUE, his actions made sure he didn't go to college after all.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 22:37:41 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 28 22:02:43 2014.

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If the LW say stuff, I wouldn't look into it either. I never knew that you had to do research before reporting something on Subchat, even when you state that it's only speculation.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 22:38:57 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Aug 28 22:10:03 2014.

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^^^ IAWTAP

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 28 23:16:11 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Aug 28 22:25:28 2014.

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he did not have a altercation with anybody

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 28 23:17:28 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 28 22:00:13 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 28 23:26:18 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 22:38:57 2014.

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right winger

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 00:50:38 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 28 23:26:18 2014.

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RW is a political preference. It has NOTHING to do with this..

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 03:06:09 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 28 22:00:13 2014.

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You mean that he was never caught.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 03:10:32 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 20:13:48 2014.

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Precisely.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 04:21:50 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 00:50:38 2014.

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yeah sure

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 04:23:49 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 20:13:48 2014.

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blocking traffic ?
wtf ?

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 05:55:52 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 04:21:50 2014.

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Can you please explain to me how it is?

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 05:57:53 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 05:55:52 2014.

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your agreement with '' Jeff Rosen''

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:00:27 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 04:23:49 2014.

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Walking in the middle of the road is blocking vehicular traffic as cars have to swerve around them to make sure they don't get hit.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Aug 29 06:01:04 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Aug 28 23:16:11 2014.

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Whatever

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:01:35 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 05:57:53 2014.

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THAT'S the definition of a RWer? Agreeing with another man's opinion?

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 06:04:33 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:00:27 2014.

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so give him the death penality on the spot and shoot to kill

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 06:05:04 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:01:35 2014.

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seems RW to me

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:56:42 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 06:05:04 2014.

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Being RW or LW has nothing to do how one feels about the goings-on of everyday life events. They are a political ideology having to do with the government.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:57:40 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 29 06:04:33 2014.

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Nooooo....

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:44:19 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:01:35 2014.

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No, it's more like the racism. It's the rush to protect a bad cop, like I've been trying to tell you. Common sense dictates that whne you're the only one with a gun and your targe is in the process of surrender, you first stop shooting. Michael Brown died of a bullet through his skull, as he held his head down trying to hold his hands up. WTF was this guy trying to prove here?

Then, to give everyone a clue as to the content of these guys' character......

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:45:40 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Aug 28 22:25:28 2014.

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The same video the cops claim show him stealing them show him buying them.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:55:38 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Aug 29 06:56:42 2014.

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LOL! As if the policies of the government have nothing to do with everyday life?

Protip: Cops are government employees. Each and every one of them. They're called security if they aren't.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:57:57 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 28 22:37:41 2014.

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It's the selectiveness that's telling. Don't you get it? If you had once mentioned "speculation" as you see it from the left, there'd be some substance to our rap. The proof of your empty words make them just empty words of a closet racist.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:59:38 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 03:06:09 2014.

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That would make him among the millions of kids of all descriptions that "got away with it". No doubt you included.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 08:16:06 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:45:40 2014.

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Then why did he strong-arm the storeowner?

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 08:19:52 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 08:16:06 2014.

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Probably an argument ver prices? Did the price of cigars suddenly go up?

Remember the store owner did NOT press charges. Nor did he call the cops, another customer did.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 08:36:39 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:44:19 2014.

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1) Cop had no way of knowing at the time Michael Brown did not have a gun unless cops are now supposed to trust criminals to be truthful

2) Brown was much larger than the cop. He could have used that size advantage to tackle the cop to the pavement and start wailing on him

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 08:47:14 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 08:36:39 2014.

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The accounts say the cop didn't know he was a criminal as he didn't know about the alleged robbery. The way he's dressed in the convenience store video looks like summer wear. Where would he conceal a gun?

Cops are trained in self defense against someone larger than they, otherwise we would only hire large people to be cops. (Using Ben Stein's "his size made him armed" tactic is a fail). There's also calling for backup :)

your pal,
Spic

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 08:59:31 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 08:19:52 2014.

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Probably an argument ver prices?

ROTFL! Did you actually have a straight face on when you typed that? Talk about straining credibility!

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 29 09:06:48 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 08:47:14 2014.

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On the other hand, if Brown did punch Wilson in the eye, and was now charging him and not slowing down even after being shot a few times, Wilson might have overreacted in a slightly imprudent but not criminal way.

We don't know enough yet, and may never know enough if two totally incompatible eyewitness version continue to be maintained.



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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 09:07:07 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:55:38 2014.

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Private railroads and universities have police departments as well.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 09:10:55 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 29 09:06:48 2014.

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I agree, but some posters seem to be making some concrete announcements based on assumption and extrapolation of events.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 29 09:11:30 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 09:07:07 2014.

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But that is really a misnomer. They aren't police. They are security guards.

NYU has a Department of Public Safety, which always makes me think of the French Revolution.


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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 09:16:43 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 08:36:39 2014.

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1.) granted. However, by that point in time Mr Brown had taken four bullets in his right arm, which left him at a severe disadvantage WRt streetfighting.

2.) see #1.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 09:17:58 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 29 09:06:48 2014.

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He had his hand(s) UP. He was surrendering. He just wanted to shooting to stop.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 09:21:22 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 09:10:55 2014.

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Mostly thems what think Mr. Brown is an innocent victim


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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 09:24:48 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 07:59:38 2014.

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Look, just because you may have shoplifted a few dozen doughnuts in your past, don't assume everyone else is a fat criminal.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 09:25:26 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 09:21:22 2014.

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About even I'd say. We don't know 100% that there was a robbery or not, don't know if there was an attack on the cop or not. Other than "I'll wait until the facts come out" there are wrong answers on both sides of the argument.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 09:28:25 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 08:59:31 2014.

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No, that's far more likely. Ever quibble with a merchant? Do realize the store owner didn't press charges.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 29 09:49:13 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 29 09:11:30 2014.

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It depends on the state.

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 09:50:10 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 09:28:25 2014.

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There are a number of valid reasons why a store owner would not press charges in such a case that don't necessarily mean no crime took place:

1) Legal status of employees
2) Not wanting to be involved with the time/paperwork for what will likely be plead out to a fine
3) Fear of retaliation
4) Wanting to cut the kid a break over a minor crime (while it is a felony, if nobody got hurt as a result of the force used the store owner might not realize it is still a felony)

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 09:51:29 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by bingbong on Fri Aug 29 09:17:58 2014.

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Were you there? Were you reading his mind? How do you know that is what he wanted versus trying to trick the police officer into lowering his weapon so he can blitz attack the officer?

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 09:58:29 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 09:51:29 2014.

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LOL, I smell desperation.

Were you there, reading the cop's mind? Too easy...

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 10:02:36 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 09:58:29 2014.

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That post was a bit of devil's advocate to be honest. I really do not like the posts that speculate on motives because unless you were actually in the person's mind you cannot know what their reasoning was. From what I have seen so far there appears to be a breakdown in proper police procedure for handling this sort of scenario, but I do not believe that all of the elements of Murder can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt based on the evidence that has been shown so far

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 10:08:09 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 10:02:36 2014.

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I agree and it's these murky scenarios that inspire conspiracy theory level conjecture.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:20:47 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Fred G on Fri Aug 29 08:47:14 2014.

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Spic?

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 10:31:57 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:20:47 2014.

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He is pointing to my use of "Spic" in a sarcastic manner (as I was commenting based on what the writer would probably say not my own viewpoint). It was a bad attempt at sarcasm on point and in hindsight I probably should have phrased it better

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 29 10:32:39 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 29 08:59:31 2014.

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iawtlp

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Re: I Applaud This Couple

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 29 10:33:19 2014, in response to Re: I Applaud This Couple, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Aug 29 09:50:10 2014.

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I thought there was uncertainty over whether it is a felony or 2 separate misdemeanors.


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