|
|
| Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature (1177081) | |
 |
|
| Home > OTChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
Page 2 of 4 |
||
|
| (1181288) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 13:13:28 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Wed May 7 13:06:07 2014. I see the Confederate flag every single day. I see who displays it. That shapes my opinion. Seeing these people in person. |
|
|
| (1181300) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 13:45:50 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 13:13:28 2014. Which only allows for the most superficial of analyses of these people, what you overhear on their car audio, what they drive, how they dress, any other stickers or ornaments on the vehicle. Doesn't really get into their thinking or motivation one iota.Kinda makes your analysis a bit invalid, ya think? |
|
|
| (1181310) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 14:31:43 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 13:45:50 2014. Thanks for attacking.Of course I've had a few conversations with such people. Remember that thread about the Confederate flag on s/b I-75 @ e/b I-4? Well they changed the flag. Still confederate but not "The KKK version" as Spider-Pig says. When I get back from the beach I'll do a google search to find the version now on display. It's mostly white with union jack in corner. Do you feel better now that you lost 35 pounds? Do you measure body fat percentage? |
|
|
| (1181311) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 14:37:28 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 14:31:43 2014. You're welcome.It is impossible to consider that anyone that would associate themselves with the confederacy doesn't concur with the hate and racism from which it was formed. I do feel better but I do not believe in BMI, it's found to be a flawed measurement and indicates nothing of general health. |
|
|
| (1181312) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 14:41:34 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 14:37:28 2014. BMI is different from bf%.BF% is accurate. On my end, I'm going to aim to drop 3% points of pure fat by the end of July. One waist size. That would be good. I won't argue about the confederate flag. |
|
|
| (1181318) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 14:58:52 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 14:41:34 2014. Getting an accurate measure of that is a elaborate process. I don't think it's necessary, nor does it really help to determine overall health.Losing size involves building muscle in lieu of fat, it won't change and many actually add to weight. Good luck with that. One bit of advice...don't try to rush it. I've had excellent success in mountain trail hiking for building bone. No osteoporosis in the hips anymore, with no biophosphanes! Need to find a way to get similar results for the spine. It's a concern for women especially, but also happens to men as they age. |
|
|
| (1181324) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 15:04:34 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 14:58:52 2014. Losing a waist size does not indicate losing muscle mass. But I do think it's impossible to lose only fat. If you lose a large amount of fat, you'll lose some muscle mass too. That's why I think weight lifting is so important.Glad the hikes have helped. I loved "hiking" in Forest Park in October and November when I lived in Queens. I still think you hate men. |
|
|
| (1181327) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Wed May 7 15:09:25 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 14:37:28 2014. I do feel better but I do not believe in BMI, it's found to be a flawed measurement and indicates nothing of general health.You're telling me! For some reason. my doctor insists on telling my BMI measurements during every annual checkup. When I went in last year, I had lost enough weight to be seriously scrawny and for the first time the BMI pronounced me "not overweight." Now that I'm back up to a healthy weight I'd probably measure as "obese." |
|
|
| (1181328) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 15:15:48 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 15:04:34 2014. You are right on that. I don't see how you could lose waist size without loss of oth. Or how weightlifting wuld really help in that respect.If you hike, you need some serious (over 30 degrees) inclines. Going down is just as important as going up. Both work different muscle groups, as well as jarring bones. That's what did it apparently. Still a pleasant surprise. Also gives the legs great muscle tone. You can't get all those muscles with weights. |
|
|
| (1181334) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 15:25:27 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Wed May 7 15:09:25 2014. Yep. It's bullshit. Even body fat percentage is bullshit. More shit they want you to worry about.. |
|
|
| (1181336) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 15:26:31 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 15:25:27 2014. body fat percentage is not bullshit. it's when you obsess over "getting abs" or whatever that it becomes unhealthy. |
|
|
| (1181337) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 15:28:28 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 15:26:31 2014. Yes it is. People with 30% body fat have been proven to be perfectly healthy. It's all about the individual. |
|
|
| (1181338) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 15:30:42 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Wed May 7 15:09:25 2014. For some reason. my doctor insists on telling my BMI measurements during every annual checkup. When I went in last year, I had lost enough weight to be seriously scrawny and for the first time the BMI pronounced me "not overweight." Now that I'm back up to a healthy weight I'd probably measure as "obese."I weighed 214 this morning. Following the advice of Jason Ferruggia. If I can get down to 210 for the summer that would be good. Lose pure fat. Thinking about doing deadlifts 2xwk for now. Cardio sprints? Too hot. Later in year. |
|
|
| (1181340) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 15:32:26 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by bingbong on Wed May 7 15:28:28 2014. Oh. I know. You can have 30% bf but have good bp and RHR. But carrying that weight ain't good for your joints.It's unattractive. Gets in the way of good sex too. |
|
|
| (1181372) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Wed May 7 16:57:15 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 15:32:26 2014. But carrying that weight ain't good for your joints.Citation needed. It's unattractive. Citation needed. Gets in the way of good sex too. Citation very needed. |
|
|
| (1181405) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 7 18:26:38 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 7 13:13:28 2014. For a brief moment, I thought I saw "seeing these people in prison." :) |
|
|
| (1181406) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 7 18:28:54 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Wed May 7 16:57:15 2014. TMI!TMI! WTFMTMI! :) |
|
|
| (1181458) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 00:37:00 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Wed May 7 07:54:56 2014. LOL! If you take Streetcarman seriously, you're just fucked up. |
|
|
| (1181496) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 09:33:27 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 00:37:00 2014. +1 |
|
|
| (1181497) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 09:35:43 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 00:37:00 2014. No, it was about which people take me seriously.
|
|
|
| (1181500) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 09:39:00 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 09:33:27 2014. -7 |
|
|
| (1181503) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 09:47:51 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Wed May 7 07:54:56 2014. I'm asking this: of all the people on OTChat who don't share your extremely liberal and otherwise odd non-transit-related views, who does take you seriously? I don't need any certain length of list. I just want to know who here are the non-morons, etc., according to you. |
|
|
| (1181506) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 09:57:10 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 09:47:51 2014. I'm asking this: of all the people on OTChat who don't share your extremely liberal and otherwise odd non-transit-related views, who does take you seriously?Extremely liberal? Seriously? Try "moderate liberal" or "mainstream liberal." Just because OTChat is filled with right-wing extremists who can't tell the difference between far left and center-right doesn't make me "extremely" liberal by any meaningful standard. |
|
|
| (1181508) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 10:27:15 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 09:57:10 2014. I described it how I see it and that is my opinion. It doesn't affect the question I posed. What is your answer? |
|
|
| (1181509) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 10:36:21 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 10:27:15 2014. I already answered. |
|
|
| (1181510) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 10:42:01 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 09:35:43 2014. Oops. My bad. |
|
|
| (1181511) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 11:01:58 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 09:47:51 2014. I don't consider his views to be odd or extremely liberal. |
|
|
| (1181512) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 11:20:35 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 10:36:21 2014. No you didn't. The answer you gave was overly complicated. I'm looking for a simple answer to a simple question. Do you need further clarification? |
|
|
| (1181513) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 11:22:06 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 11:01:58 2014. That's just my opinion of his views. If you delete that description the question remains the same. |
|
|
| (1181522) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 12:12:07 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 11:20:35 2014. blowing up another good thread? |
|
|
| (1181524) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 12:16:20 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 09:35:43 2014. Categorizing me with Edwards! was a blow to my ego. |
|
|
| (1181533) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 12:39:23 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 12:12:07 2014. Yes! |
|
|
| (1181545) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 13:06:43 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 12:16:20 2014. I actually didn't. I placed you in a category of your own. I only put you in the same sentence as Edwards! which will hopefully leave your ego intact. |
|
|
| (1181547) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 13:09:48 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 8 11:20:35 2014. No you didn't.Yes I did. Right here. The answer you gave was overly complicated. Right, so now you notice that I did answer, it's just that my answer is too complex for you to comprehend. I'm looking for a simple answer to a simple question. My apologies. I will endeavour to be more respectful of your inability to understand nuance, context, and complexity in the future. Do you need further clarification? It would help, given that a good deal of the complexity of my answer derived from the fact that you were vague as to who, specifically, qualifies for the list. |
|
|
| (1181570) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 8 14:57:56 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 12:12:07 2014. Nilet is yes. He really believes his views aren't radically extreme liberal. Terrapin is correct. |
|
|
| (1181571) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 8 15:01:12 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 11:01:58 2014. He considers himself "moderate" and believes Clinton and even Obama are rightists. His perception of "center" is highly distorted. |
|
|
| (1181574) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 15:07:45 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 8 14:57:56 2014. What bothers me about Nilet is he equated me to Edwards! who is a joke. |
|
|
| (1181585) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 15:54:43 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 8 15:01:12 2014. Nilet appears to be a centrist. I think I confused him with scrabbleship on some matters. I confuse handles from time-to-time.Took for forever to figure out Fred G is not SeabeachFred. Any handle with "concourse" I'll confuse, but now I got them straight. |
|
|
| (1181593) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 16:02:31 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 8 15:01:12 2014. No, it's not. America doesn't have a real left wing anymore. |
|
|
| (1181595) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 16:04:50 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 16:02:31 2014. Why do you say that?We're more Leftist as a nation than ever. |
|
|
| (1181596) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 16:10:11 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 16:04:50 2014. Absolutely False. Compare FDR and Truman with every president since.Hell, look at Johnson's Great Society. Anyone who proposed something like that now would be derided as a communist and yet Johnson was able to do it when communism was still a threat. |
|
|
| (1181606) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 16:22:54 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 16:10:11 2014. as a nation, we're far more Left compared to when I was a kid.Same-sex marriage is now cool. Mainstream. Single-parenthood destigmatized. I suspect Church attendance is down. Cursing in public is the norm. Congratulations Spider-Pig(and others here). Your side as won. |
|
|
| (1181609) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 16:31:56 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 16:22:54 2014. Except for same-sex marriage, which is just a natural evolution for society, we're apparently only left wing when it comes to useless bullshit and not real liberal policies.Welfare reform is not liberal. ObamaCare is not liberal. |
|
|
| (1181621) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 16:58:56 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 16:31:56 2014. Same-sex marriage is a very liberal policy. So is ABORTION.Affirmative action? Welfare is liberal. Welfare reform is conservative. ObamaCare is liberal. This nation is far more Left than 30 years ago. And it's going to continue to tilt Left. |
|
|
| (1181658) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Fred G on Thu May 8 18:17:21 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 16:10:11 2014. When you think about it, America's "Greatest Generation" embraced socialism, or at least socialist policies added to a capitalist system.your pal, Fred |
|
|
| (1181661) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 18:24:19 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 8 14:57:56 2014. He really believes his views aren't radically extreme liberal.For all of your bluster that I hold "radically extreme liberal" views, you've never actually been able to name one. |
|
|
| (1181662) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Fred G on Thu May 8 18:24:39 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 8 11:01:58 2014. Nilet's views are not extremely liberal. He's correct that Clinton is right of center. Obama is an old school centrist if not a bit right of center as well. The righties believe their own propaganda so that even Reagan would be considered an impure conservative nowadays.your pal, Fred |
|
|
| (1181664) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Fred G on Thu May 8 18:26:01 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 15:54:43 2014. Well if I'm gonna be mixed up with somebody, being mixed up with SBFred is ok. He's a good guy.your pal, Fred |
|
|
| (1181665) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 18:26:16 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by Fred G on Thu May 8 18:24:39 2014. I'm pretty sure Reagan was the last president to raise taxes (not counting Obama's willingness to let temporary tax cuts end when they were explicitly intended to). |
|
|
| (1181670) | |
Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature |
|
|
Posted by Fred G on Thu May 8 18:28:35 2014, in response to Re: GMO Labeling Bill Passes VT Legislature, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 8 16:58:56 2014. It did move right a bunch in the 80's so the pendulum is swinging backyour pal, Fred |
|
|
|
Page 2 of 4 |
||