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Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 15:26:00 2014, in response to Re: Ologic, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Apr 15 15:21:10 2014. No, it's not a yes or no question. Stop lying. That's like asking if a country is better off under Communism or under Nazism.What do you think South Africa is being ruled under right now, dandologic? |
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Olog Dodges Simple Question |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 15:29:19 2014, in response to Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 15:16:58 2014. Describe exactly what form of government you would endorse. In more detail than "small." |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 15:32:41 2014, in response to Olog Dodges Simple Question, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 15:29:19 2014. There is no more detail necessary than "small". If you are too lazy to study the history of this country for the answer, then you shouldn't be asking stupid questions like that. The history of the USA is online in several volumes.I already provided part of the answer. No multifarious executive agencies, no welfare state, no oppressive taxation/enforcement regime, no massive surveillance state such as under NSA, no state or federal ownership of any land or any infrastructure . . . lots more than that. Get a clue, couldja? |
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Olog Dodges Simple Question Again |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 15:39:10 2014, in response to Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 15:32:41 2014. It's a very simple question; I don't see why you're unable to answer it.Describe exactly what form of government you would endorse. In more detail than "small." So far, you've dodged, evaded, and when pressed, you offered the word "small" and a few forms of government you don't endorse. Not try answering the actual question: Describe exactly what form of government you would endorse. In more detail than "small." |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:47:40 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 14:55:03 2014. Are you thick or something? You've screamed up and down that the law says your ancestry determines your citizenship and you don't need to provide any justification for that, and now you're claiming it's the exact opposite?Ancestry has nothing to do with it, as any ansestry can become a citizen if they follow the process. If you don't like the law, run for some political office, and if you get enough people as totally bonkers as you, you can win the election, and attempt to change the law. If not, then don't complain to me about the law, as I am explaining it to you. If you don't understand, then that is your problem. YOU are the one that as as thick as a board. You're clearly hysterical. Maybe you should take a nap and calm down a bit and then you'll be able to have a debate like a rational person. You are the one completely irrational. You aren't worth debating with, as you go balistic at people attempting to explain the law to you. I didn't make the laws. And I already explained that I never did any of those things and neither did you. You apparently didn't notice. That is correct, as I am already a citizen of the US, and so are you apparently (god help us). We don't need to become citizens or legal aliens of the US as we already are. That is the law. I didn't write it. But you are too thick to understand it. he point is that there isn't "a" process, there are two processes— an easy one for people of the "right" ancestry and an extremely difficult one for people of the "wrong" ancestry. There is no right or wrong ansestry. Anyone who isn't already a citizen is perfectly able to become a naturalized citizen, or at the least a legal alien. It's open to anyone. You're the one who believes we should revive the Soviet Union and force everybody to live under a Stalinist dictatorship, so you're the real extremist. See how easy it is to spew random bullshit? Bringing up the absurd does nothing to help you extremist irrational cause. Essentially, you need a visa. Yes. That is correct. Glad you understand. |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:53:09 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 14:33:24 2014. This is a really simple point. Exactly how dumb are you that you can't grasp it? Fuck you you piece of garbage, I am not playing your ridiculous game. You know how non citizens can become citizens or legal aliens in this country (and every country has a process. Some don't allow at all. In this country it's more lenient than many others. You argue that an idea is inherently illegitimate unless it already has widespread acceptance. In 1500, no country had democracy. Therefore, by your own argument, democracy is not legitimate. The year 1500 has nothing to do with this discussion (this isn't even a discussion, it's an absurdity). I just explained why that question is irrelevant, but the point sailed right over your head. Nothing sailed anywhere. Your ridiculous ideas luckily are at the far end of extremity, so thus not even a notion of how things work. You can stand on your head with your ridiculous and absurd "think you are witty" bile, but it doesn't make it any more reality outside of your freakish, poor soul mind. OK, that's it. You have spewed this non sequitur one time too many. You now owe me a justification for slavery. Explain how slavery was justified, and explain why it wasn't bigoted. Oh shut the fuck up youabsurd person. Go find someone else to try and be ridiculous with. |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:54:00 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 13:56:37 2014. Read even half of Nilet's posts and you will see the reason. He's completely unreasonable, and not worth the bytes he types his posts with. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 15 15:54:01 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:47:40 2014. You aren't worth debating withHow many responses have you made to Nilet in the last few days? :) |
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Re: I Want To Have A Beer With Selkirk |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:54:50 2014, in response to Re: I Want To Have A Beer With Selkirk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Apr 15 14:06:36 2014. Yes, Selkirk is totally reasonable, as are most of the people here. There's one that's completely nuts, and a few others borderline, but one person needs to be put into Bellevue. |
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Re: I Want To Have A Beer With Selkirk |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:55:38 2014, in response to Re: I Want To Have A Beer With Selkirk, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 15 14:41:16 2014. Hate Heineken. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 15:55:57 2014, in response to Olog Dodges Simple Question Again, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 15:39:10 2014. Sorry, but you got more detail than "small". If that doesn't satisfy your further-left-than-Stalin pea brain, I can't help you there. |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:56:33 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 14:58:15 2014. Bark Bark you fool. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:56:59 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 14:33:48 2014. I dismissed just about any of the nonsense you post. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:57:26 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 14:34:14 2014. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 15:58:24 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:57:26 2014. Not even if it feels good. |
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Re: Nilogic |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:59:16 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 14:36:05 2014. Their bright enough to realize you are totally out of your mind.The more people don't agree with your absurdity, the brighter they are actually. |
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Re: Nilogic |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 16:00:25 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic, posted by 3-9 on Tue Apr 15 14:42:52 2014. His problem is however that he really believes what he says is they way things should be, forget how anyone else believes. He calls you a racist or "not bright" if you don't happen to agree with his absurdities. |
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Re: Nilogic |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 16:02:38 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 15:04:30 2014. Perfect assessment of Nilet. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 16:05:20 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 15 15:54:01 2014. Yeah, I am done. I made this one before realizing he's a total waste of time to respond to. It's not worth anyone's time, that's why no one else is even attempting to participate in this farce. How ridiculous. |
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Re: Nilogic |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 16:06:49 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:59:16 2014. They are |
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Re: Nilogic |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:11:21 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 16:02:38 2014. Yes; he gets there before anyone. |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:19:01 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:47:40 2014. Ancestry has nothing to do with it, as any ansestry can become a citizen if they follow the process.You're just reasserting the same bullshit. The point is that there are two processes— an easy one for people of the "right" ancestry and a nearly impossible one for people of the "wrong" ancestry. This is simple and undisputed fact; I'm not sure why you're too stupid to understand it. If you don't like the law, run for some political office, blah blah blah blah This is irrelevant nonsense. We are debating whether the law should be changed (or at least, I am; you don't seem intelligent enough to have more than a rudimentary understanding of the concepts involved). From your statement, there are a couple possibilities. (a) You don't realise that laws can be changed. (b) You don't realise that people debate politics outside of the legislature. (c) You think all laws are automatically right and just. So which is it? ...you go balistic at people attempting to explain the law to you. I didn't make the laws. OK, I know you're a moron, so let's see if I can explain this in words small enough for you to understand. I know what the law says. It doesn't matter, because we're debating what the law should say. I know you don't make the laws. This doesn't matter either. Every citizen in a democracy should know what laws they would support and be able to debate the merits of that position. That is correct, as I am already a citizen of the US, and so are you apparently (god help us). We don't need to become citizens or legal aliens of the US as we already are. You're dumber than a sack of doorknobs, aren't you? The question is: Why are you entitled to citizenship automatically simply by virtue of being born while other people with different ancestry aren't? That is the law. I didn't write it. If you keep spewing this irrelevant gibberish, then I'm going to assume you endorse every law ever written. There is no right or wrong ansestry. Anyone who isn't already a citizen is perfectly able to become a naturalized citizen, or at the least a legal alien. It's open to anyone. As I stated, neither of us could meet the standards for an American immigration visa. So if American citizenship is equally open to everyone, how come we get to cut in line in front of all the people who do meet the visa requirements? Bringing up the absurd does nothing to help you extremist irrational cause. Heh, you pulled a Terrapin and took everything literally again. No wonder you act like such a moron. Essentially, you need a visa. Yes. That is correct. Glad you understand. You simply ignored the part of the argument you found inconvenient. If a visa is necessary, how come Bob didn't need one? |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:26:34 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:53:09 2014. I am not playing your ridiculous game.Game? I've been making a logical argument and hoping (unreasonably) that you might provide a logical response despite the fact that you can't even understand what I say let alone form a coherent reply. The year 1500 has nothing to do with this discussion (this isn't even a discussion, it's an absurdity). Case in point. I made a logical argument, namely: (a) You claim that the right to travel is invalid because no country grants it. (b) In 1500, no country granted the right to vote, but you claim that is valid. Ergo, (c) you don't really believe (a). Unfortunately, these are concepts which require a certain bare minimum of intelligence to understand, and while you managed to sort of wrap your head around the basics, you just completely forgot anything the minute I started making logical deductions. Nothing sailed anywhere. Your ridiculous ideas blah blah blah blah blah I made the argument I reiterated just above. However, as noted, the point sailed right over your head, so you just spewed a bunch of random gibberish because you didn't know what we were talking about and thought vomiting bile at random might make you look at least slightly intelligent. You poor soul. Oh shut the fuck up youabsurd person. Go find someone else to try and be ridiculous with. OK, so you believe slavery was bigoted, but you support it anyway. Whenever you're prepared to stop taking everything literally, we can resume this debate. |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:27:07 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:54:00 2014. Um, I hate to break it to you, but... |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:27:14 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by AlM on Tue Apr 15 15:54:01 2014. That's what I keep saying! :) |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:27:39 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:56:33 2014. The fuck you talking about? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:28:17 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:56:59 2014. So you believe that racial equality is "nonsense." Thanks for clarifying. Racist. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:29:11 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:57:26 2014. Ironic, given your habit of running away every time you get pwned.So are you ready to explain why racial equality is "propaganda" yet? |
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Re: Nilogic |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:29:52 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 15:59:16 2014. ...says the person who can't understand the simplest of logical arguments. |
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Re: Nilogic |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:32:18 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 16:00:25 2014. His problem is however that he really believes what he says is they way things should be...So you don't actually believe any of the crap you spew? That's a relief. ...forget how anyone else believes Wait, so I'm not supposed to have opinions that disagree with yours? Yeah, that's not how shit works. He calls you a racist or "not bright" if you don't happen to agree with his absurdities. Since you consider racial equality to be "nonsense" and "propaganda," you really shouldn't bristle at being called a racist. And since you can't understand the simplest of logical arguments, I think the phrase "not bright" is apropos. |
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Re: Racism |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:34:10 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:11:21 2014. Yep, the guy who openly favours segregation and the guy who thinks racial equality is "nonsense" both hate me.Thanks for the undorsement(s). |
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Re: Nilogic vs. ologic |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 15 16:34:25 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 16:02:38 2014. i notice you condemn Nilet's insanity while ignoring olog's insanity. why is that? |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:34:43 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 16:05:20 2014. ...and yet you keep coming back.I suspect you simply like getting pwned. :) |
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Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:36:13 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic vs. ologic, posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 15 16:34:25 2014. What insanity? Only you and the pig (and Selkirk and bingbong when "joking") think of it as "insanity". Shows that you guys are the outliers, but not as far out there as Nilet. |
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Re: Racism |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 15 16:36:22 2014, in response to Re: Racism, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:34:10 2014. I don't think racial inequality is nonsense....but I surely think YOU are a joke and anything you have to say is nonsense. |
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Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:37:33 2014, in response to Re: Racism, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:34:10 2014. Lying about what I said ain't going to get you anywhere, Mr. Open Antisemite. |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 15 16:37:42 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:26:34 2014. Yeah....I "support" slavery....you absurd freak. |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:38:37 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 15 16:37:42 2014. Yes you do. You have stated as much.Unless you're willing to stop taking everything literally and actually respond to my points, that is the assumption I will continue to make. |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 15 16:39:19 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:34:43 2014. I said I am done attempting to be logical with you and waste time on adult responses and conversation with you as you are a joke |
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Re: Racism |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:39:44 2014, in response to Re: Racism, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 15 16:36:22 2014. I don't think racial inequality is nonsenseExactly. We know you're a racist. That you think racial equality is nonsense proves it. |
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Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:39:53 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 15 16:37:42 2014. If anyone supports slavery, it's him. Ultra-leftism is all about slavery to the state. |
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Re: Olog Spews More Garbage |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:41:04 2014, in response to Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:37:33 2014. Lying about what you said? You said it RIGHT HERE.Now you owe me a link to where I expressed antisemitism. |
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re: Nilogic vs. ologic |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 15 16:41:04 2014, in response to Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:36:13 2014. most people think it's insanity, alm certainly does |
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Re: Nilogic vs. ologic |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:41:33 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic vs. ologic, posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 15 16:34:25 2014. Because he agrees with Olog's insanity. |
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Re: Olog Spews More Garbage |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:42:32 2014, in response to Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:36:13 2014. How about your advocacy of segregation and repeated rants about "communism?" |
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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:43:16 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Apr 15 16:39:19 2014. You've posted an adult response? Where?Yeah, you need to post a link to that. |
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Re: I Want To Have A Beer With Selkirk |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Apr 15 16:43:50 2014, in response to Re: I Want To Have A Beer With Selkirk, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Apr 15 14:06:36 2014. Gotta wait till Pesach is over as beer is chomitz!! |
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Re: Nilogic vs. ologic |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 15 16:44:01 2014, in response to Re: Nilogic vs. ologic, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:41:33 2014. i don't think he agrees with it he's just blind to any idiocy that comes from the right, be it subchaters or elected officials. |
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Re: Olog Spews More Garbage |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 15 16:44:17 2014, in response to Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:39:53 2014. Ultra-leftism is all about slavery to the state.OK, back to basics. Define "liberal." Define "conservative." |
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Re: Liberal Jeb Bush Says Illegals Should Break The Law |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 15 16:45:53 2014, in response to re: Nilogic vs. ologic, posted by dand124 on Tue Apr 15 16:41:04 2014. He's a leftist. A better-spoken leftist than most, but still a hard ideologue. |
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