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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:39:58 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:34:04 2014. Don't be ridiculous. No analogy is perfect. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:41:47 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:26:29 2014. Don't tell me I need to define the term. It has a plain meaning.You use it overbroadly. Harm it how? Millions of people can move to Ontario, so I find that a bit far-fetched. Increasing the population of the province would depress wages. Some would use more government services than they would provide in exchange to the province. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:43:55 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:29:45 2014. He did not say "that native Americans don't count as people, that white privilege doesn't exist, that racial equality is 'propaganda.'"By the time I dig up all the links, you'll have moved on to a dozen new claims, so I'll just give the most recent one— he claimed racial equality was propaganda here, and if you can dig up the cartoon he's referring to, you'll find the post where he denied white privilege. that white people need to stop feeling guilty about what they've done to other races" is not racist. I'd love to hear your explanation for how (a) segregation wasn't wrong or (b) it doesn't matter that it was. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 18:46:24 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 14 14:47:43 2014. incorrect.racism presents ITSELF..it doesnt need to be called out. too many of you will say something that you either KNOW..or dont know to bigoted..until its PRESENTED to YOU from someone else that such action are considered RACIST. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:47:45 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:29:34 2014. And you can't have unrestricted immigration and an optimal implementation of a welfare state either. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 14 18:47:47 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:43:55 2014. I'd love to hear your explanation for how (a) segregation wasn't wrong or (b) it doesn't matter that it was.I'd give 100 to 1 odds that this was a reading comprehension failure on your part. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:47:54 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 14 18:36:38 2014. You agreed that it's not racist to believe Zimmerman was justified in killing Martin. Justify that claim. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 18:48:42 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 14 15:06:55 2014. He is,however,Right on point over that Chicago fake jew racist attitude towards damn near everyone. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:49:20 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:38:05 2014. That a state has the right to make laws does not imply it has the right to make any law. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 18:50:33 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:29:45 2014. He DID say "white privilege doesn't exist.." |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 18:50:34 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 18:46:24 2014. I'll admit it once you do. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:51:53 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:38:58 2014. So you mean that if any state declares any person to be under their jurisdiction, then that person is a "national" of that state no matter how unenforceable the claim of jurisdiction?IE, are people living in China considered "nationals" of Taiwan? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 18:52:11 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 18:48:42 2014. I am no more a racist than you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:53:06 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:47:54 2014. Because it's not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:56:24 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:43:55 2014. He just didn't read the cartoon and dismissed whatever you had to say because he thinks your ideas aren't valid. That's not good, but it's not racist. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 18:56:30 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by dand124 on Mon Apr 14 17:08:57 2014. so what?because EVERYONE AGREES with something..doesn't mean it is right. look at the current climate going on..with the damn tea baggers..the far right nut jobs, insane left wings.. how about JIM CROW..SLAVERY..THE EXTERMINATION of the NATIVE AMERICANS..? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:56:36 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 14 18:47:47 2014. I like those odds. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:58:06 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:41:47 2014. You use it overbroadly.Fine. "Bigotry" refers to any infringement on the fundamental rights of any person on the basis of inborn or otherwise uncontrollable traits. Increasing the population of the province would depress wages. You're conflating the idea that several million people have the right to move there with the idea that several million people would. Moreover, if the right to travel were unrestricted, the depressed wages in Ontario would cause people to leave in search of higher wages elsewhere, and the market would stabilise. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:58:13 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:49:20 2014. But you have not demonstrated why unlimited travel is an inherent right. Other than you believe it is. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:59:56 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 18:50:33 2014. I don't remember that. It seemed like he was just reflexively dismissing everything Nilet said. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 19:00:34 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 14:39:59 2014. WHAT IS THERE FOR YOU TO FURTHER ADMIT?We already know you are a fucking cowardly yellow dog of a coward bigoted bitch. what more explanation do we need? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 19:00:57 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 14:40:00 2014. you already have. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:00:59 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:51:53 2014. As far as Taiwan is concerned, yes. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:01:14 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:56:36 2014. Then explain what you mean. |
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Posted by dand124 on Mon Apr 14 19:01:31 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 18:58:06 2014. global GDP per capita is about $10,000 a year, is that how much you think the the average American should be payed. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 19:01:43 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 15:03:56 2014. you are terrible at "guessing"..Why do you actually post here? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 19:03:28 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 15:03:56 2014. have you PROVEN that as a matter of FACT,like we've PROVEN factually about YOU? |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:04:44 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 18:50:34 2014. Admit what? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 14 19:04:56 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:01:14 2014. Let's see the link. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:04:59 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by dand124 on Mon Apr 14 19:01:31 2014. Exactly. Millions of people would move to Ontario. Millions of people would not move to Bangladesh. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:05:06 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:47:45 2014. Why not? |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:05:37 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:53:06 2014. I said justify the claim, not reassert it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:05:55 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 18:52:11 2014. How is Edwards a racist? |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:06:40 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:00:59 2014. What relevance does that have to whether your right to live somewhere should be determined by your ancestry? |
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Posted by dand124 on Mon Apr 14 19:08:14 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:47:45 2014. because people who pay into the welfare state would move the areas with the lowest taxes while people who depend on the welfare state would move to the areas with the highest benefits |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 19:08:51 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 19:00:34 2014. You are a hell of a lot more racist than I am. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 19:09:48 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 19:00:57 2014. No I haven't. Your turn to admit it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:10:43 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 14 19:04:56 2014. http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1173946 |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 19:10:48 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 19:01:43 2014. To vent. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:11:45 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by dand124 on Mon Apr 14 19:01:31 2014. Tell me, are you actually an idiot or are you just acting like an idiot? |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:12:05 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 18:58:13 2014. Because it doesn't harm anyone. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:12:27 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 19:08:51 2014. Then link to the post that proves it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:16:51 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:05:37 2014. You made the initial claim. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:18:38 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:16:51 2014. Killing a black kid because he was black is racist.Your turn. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Apr 14 19:19:11 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 14 19:08:51 2014. what YOU call me being "racist" is really ME TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:19:37 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:06:40 2014. Because there is no other reasonable way of doing it. Unlimited migration is not reasonable. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:22:56 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:19:37 2014. Unlimited migration is not reasonable.You have yet to provide evidence of this assertion. Because there is no other reasonable way of doing it. Why is dividing the planet into districts based on historical accident and assigning people to each district based on ancestry any more reasonable than dividing the planet into districts on a grid and assigning people to each district based on the first letter of their last name? If restrictions on migration are required, it seems far more reasonable to partition the planet into districts with roughly equal infrastructure and resources and assign people into districts at random. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:25:28 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:12:05 2014. Yes, it does. |
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Posted by dand124 on Mon Apr 14 19:25:55 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:22:56 2014. the infrastructure was payed for by residents of a country, why should people who didn't pay for it get to use it? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:29:32 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 19:18:38 2014. Who killed a black kid because he was black? I agree that is racist. |
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