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Posted by R30A on Sat Feb 16 23:44:39 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 16 23:41:13 2013. +15 billion or 4004, your choice. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 16 23:49:03 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by R30A on Sat Feb 16 23:44:39 2013. It's just a useless point of fact that too many people seemingly can't let go. I'm on the +15,000,000 billion side, I just don't care if you're on the 4004 side. I draw the line whenever one wishes to impose one side on everyone else. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 16 23:56:58 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 16 23:43:11 2013. A Windows epiphany ... reflect, repent, reboot. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 00:26:40 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 16 22:52:50 2013. I don't firmly believe that there is no God. I just have no reason whatsoever to believe in God. Since all of my beliefs are based on rational observations, none of which lead to anything remotely resembling a deity. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 17 00:59:30 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 00:26:40 2013. "I don't firmly believe that there is no God."Wouldn't that make you an agnostic?
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 01:02:26 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 16 23:31:27 2013. That science can't explain it is no reason to invent an explanation.What happens when science does provide an explanafion? There will be yet more unexplained things resulting from that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 01:03:52 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 16 23:17:58 2013. LOL! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 01:04:56 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 16 23:32:27 2013. A lot of, but not all. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 01:05:48 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 17 00:59:30 2013. I consider that an adjective. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 08:35:42 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 16 23:41:13 2013. Whether the universe was created 15 billion years ago in a giant explosion or over a 6 day period in the month of October of 4004 BC, it's not worth hating over, or killing over.But it is worth getting into arguments over school curriculums. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 08:40:31 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 01:05:48 2013. You are of course correct. But English gets constantly mangled, and sometimes "wrong" words become permanent. There was a time when stamina was only a plural word. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 08:52:48 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 16 23:25:19 2013. Chris greatly exaggerates the uniformity of mainstream scientific opinions on global warming.I do wish that scientists would seriously address the question of why, if their theories are correct, global temperatures haven't increased from the very high levels they reached in 1998. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 17 09:02:08 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Amanda on Sat Feb 16 15:31:04 2013. Thanks for the corrective to self-righteous insanity. Also, LOL! |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 17 09:07:32 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 16 17:57:52 2013. Yet what was written on the tablets in that apocryphal story codified a great deal of the fabric of multiple societies and was a slap in the face of those who reasoned that, if there were no G-d, then each man was his own god. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 17 09:10:10 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 16 23:31:27 2013. Science is great. Faith in science is not.Amen. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 17 09:32:56 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 16 23:35:48 2013. But most faith-based believers seem to deny that in favor of a literal belief in Genesis.When I was in the Army (and the nearly half-century since), I have talked with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people from many places and many (mostly, but not entirely, Abrahamic faiths) about religion, philosophy, and many other things. I never met a single person who said they believed in a literal creation story. Or claimed any of the ridiculous explanations for dinosaur bones. I'm sure there are such people, but I also believe that Atheists like to make the claim that "most faith-based believers seem to deny that in favor of a literal belief in Genesis" as a method to reject religion out of hand and view themselves as superior. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Feb 17 09:49:01 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 00:26:40 2013. Just beware of unchecked rationalism, which is intrinsically self-contradictory as I've said before. Otherwise I have basic respect for where you're at. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 10:00:35 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 16 23:35:48 2013. The Universe STARTED with a Bing Bong.ROARING |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 17 10:38:00 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 17 09:07:32 2013. Yet what was written on the tablets in that apocryphal story codified a great deal of the fabric of multiple societies and was a slap in the face of those who reasoned that, if there were no G-d, then each man was his own god.
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 17 10:38:42 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 16 09:51:11 2013. agreed.I've always liked him. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 17 10:41:30 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 16 23:15:19 2013. Scientists all scramble for government funding for research, and none of it goes to anti-AGW studies.None of it goes to the Flat Earth Society either. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 17 10:47:36 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 16 23:31:27 2013. Faith is belief specifically with a lack of evidence. They are not mutually exclusive.yes they ARE mutually exclusive. What you describe is anti-science. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 17 11:49:59 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 16 23:22:17 2013. no. my way of thinking is future of GOP.pro-abortion. same sex civil union not a big deal. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 12:02:14 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 17 11:49:59 2013. The social conservatives demand loyalty to their cause in return for their votes. So if the GOP tells them, take it or leave it, this is the new GOP, they're going to need a lot more moderates. What are they going to do to get them? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 12:04:00 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 17 11:49:59 2013. LION is opposed to abortion.LION is even MORE OPPOSED to the factions that this has created in the body politic. This is far more disruptful than a few murders. Heck, we have murders every day. What is the big deal about being or getting dead? Marriage is so much more than 'love" and "sex" and run-amok hormones. Anybody can have love and sex. Marriage is the FOUNDATION of the FAMILY. And the FAMILY is the foundation of CIVILIZATION. Marriage is a commitment between a man and a woman AND THE CHURCH OR COMMUNITY to support the family, and for the family to support the Church and/or community. It is the cement that holds a civilization together. Without this you are no more than a tribe of monkeys or a pride of lions. Besides the Church recognizes many different kinds of marriage. The church may perform only one kind as a sacrament, but she sees and accepts all others. Protestant marriages are seen as valid. Jewish marriages are seen as valid. Islamic marriages are seen as valid. Hindu and Buddhist marriages are seen as valid. Civil marriages are seen as valid. If civil authorities wish to make valid a marriage between a man and a man, or a woman and a woman, that is quite properly their affair. It does not say much for the foundation of family, or even of the stability of society, but there it is. ROAR |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 12:14:55 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 08:35:42 2013. +1 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 12:16:47 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 08:40:31 2013. What I meant was that I don't think that agnostic and atheist are mutually exclusive. One can be both. Agnostic atheism can be distinguished from gnostic atheism. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 12:17:20 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 12:14:55 2013. Thank you. You didn't even comment that "curriculums" isn't a word. :) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 12:18:37 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 12:02:14 2013. We are going to leave the damn moderates in the Republican Party, and start a new CONSERVATIVE PARTY. We can probably win without those toads!ROAR |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 12:20:11 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 17 10:38:00 2013. +1 |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 12:22:01 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 12:16:47 2013. Yeah, the the difference is a secret. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 12:22:30 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 12:18:37 2013. There are no moderates left in the Republican Party. "Susan Collins" is not a plural. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 12:25:38 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 12:04:00 2013. LION is even MORE OPPOSED to the factions that this has created in the body politic. This is far more disruptful than a few murders. Heck, we have murders every day. What is the big deal about being or getting dead?This is why belief in an afterlife is DANGEROUS. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 17 12:30:32 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 12:04:00 2013. who is Broadway Lion? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 12:32:55 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 17 12:30:32 2013. A monk. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 17 13:58:06 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 17 09:32:56 2013. You need to get out into the "real America". You will find many millions of folks who believe in the literal truth of the Genesis account. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 17 14:13:16 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 16 23:41:13 2013. The theory of the Big Bang was originated by a Catholic priest, remember . . . before the red shift observation pointed towards the universe having an origin, "secular" scientists used to believe that the universe was eternal and always existed. Georges Lemaître, originator of Big Bang theory |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 17 14:30:00 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 08:35:42 2013. I don't support the teaching of a religious belief in school. That's a church/state argument, not one over our origins. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 17 14:36:43 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 17 14:13:16 2013. Any athiest is more trustworthy than any Freeper. freepers are shit. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 17 14:41:31 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 17 14:30:00 2013. You must be against the Big Bang theory then. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 17 14:44:02 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 17 14:36:43 2013. Atheists are just as dangerous as fundamentalists, if they take their beliefs too far. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 17 14:47:35 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 08:52:48 2013. Chris greatly exaggerates the uniformity of mainstream scientific opinions on global warming.No, I don't. I repeatedly point out there is IS no uniformity to those who constantly assume there is. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 17 14:48:33 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 17 10:41:30 2013. What if the Earth was flat? Or at least possibly flat? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 17 14:55:38 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 17 08:52:48 2013. No, it's the AGW folk themselves that engage in said exaggeration. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 17 15:01:26 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 17 14:55:38 2013. AGW is real So's the threat from Big Oil. The so-called German threat is false. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Feb 17 15:09:09 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 17 13:58:06 2013. Yup, I have met them. I have also met those who think the Earth is flat.I have also met those who actually believe in Global Warming! ROAR |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 15:23:18 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 17 14:44:02 2013. That's not a function of atheism. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 15:26:00 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 17 14:30:00 2013. I support teaching facts, even if it turns out those facts support a religion. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 17 15:26:15 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 17 14:41:31 2013. LOL! |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 17 15:27:16 2013, in response to Re: Atheism, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 17 14:41:31 2013. Olog ate beans and there was a big bang. |
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