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Welcome to Texas - what took you so long? |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 08:21:17 2012 58,992 |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 11 08:33:17 2012, in response to Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 08:21:17 2012. Net move of 20,000 out of 30 million. That's 0.067%. Not interesting. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 08:38:47 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 11 08:33:17 2012. Yeah, Nevada and Arizona being right behind Texas are even more impressive. Still it does show that Texas continues to be a popular destination. I hear that your salary goes pretty far in Texas. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 11 08:48:50 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 08:38:47 2012. I hear that your salary goes pretty far in Texas.The only catch is that in return for that you have to live in Texas. |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Dec 11 09:18:12 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 11 08:48:50 2012. With the likes of Dubewe.Need I say more? |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 09:48:23 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 11 08:48:50 2012. That's a positive, not a negative! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 11 10:28:46 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 09:48:23 2012. Tastes differ. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 11 10:30:23 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 09:48:23 2012. Wrong. Oh so wrong. So very very wrong.Texas is among the least desirable places to live in this country. Aside from the assholes, the "government", the ignorance, the bugs are too big.  
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 10:45:41 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 11 10:30:23 2012. I've lived in NY, CT, MA, TN, MO, KS, and TX. I prefer Texas over the other states. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 11 10:54:39 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 08:38:47 2012. i would never live in texass easy !: ) |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 11 10:59:38 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 10:45:41 2012. I prefer to live where my rights are respected. That is NOT Texas. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 11:33:31 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 11 10:54:39 2012. One more reason for others to live here, then....*G* |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 11:33:59 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 11 10:59:38 2012. My rights are respected here so I have no complaints. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 11 12:00:41 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 11:33:59 2012. You're not female. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 12:08:36 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 11 08:48:50 2012. Yeah it's not for me either, but many others find that they like it. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 12:11:26 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 11 10:54:39 2012. I wouldn't say "never" for me, but its not near the top of my list either. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 12:16:42 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 11 10:59:38 2012. A person in Texas might say the same about NY. We all tend to want to live around people like ourselves, and that includes political views. It's a big enough country. Besides like most places Texas is likely becoming more liberal. In a couple of decades Texas will be more like you are now. Of course if the trend holds by then that will be considered moderate or maybe even conservative. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 11 12:29:26 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 12:16:42 2012. Agreed. At the same time, the problem here is this state that uses tax incentives to bring business from other states. Then they have a swelling population with its inherent needs. However, the revenue necessary to meet those needs well, especially in the case of education, does not exist so they head to the Federal government seeking funding....with MY money. I do not want to support their subsidies when I'd be just as happy to see those jobs remain where they were to begin with. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Dec 11 15:24:22 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 11:33:31 2012. One nice thing is that TexASS has good railfans like Dave. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Dec 11 16:45:43 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Dec 11 15:24:22 2012. One nice thing is that TexASS has good railfans like Dave.Unless you're a freight foamer, Texas can get a little boring after a while. In contrast, in the Northeast, you have MBTA, NYCTA, SEPTA, and WMATA, TTC and STM aren't too far away, and LU is only a 7 to 8 hour flight away. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 11 18:16:17 2012, in response to Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 08:21:17 2012. You can't post this. I got chewed out from a fellow subchatter who told me that is wrong, people from California are not moving to Texas and I'm stupid.I think it might have been you, but i'm too tired to look. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 11 18:17:17 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 11 08:33:17 2012. True, it's more fun watching the people flee NY than California.or any solidly blue state. |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Tue Dec 11 19:49:29 2012, in response to Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 08:21:17 2012. Surprised at how many are moving to OR and WA. I don't think this is a Red state/Blue state thing since OR/WA/NV went for Obama twice. Even TX went 40% Obama. |
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Posted by Charles G on Tue Dec 11 21:49:21 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 09:48:23 2012. I don't really get how so many people say they could never live in Texas.Dallas is not McAllen is not Austin is not Lubbock is not Houston is not Amarillo is not Fort Worth. I've spent considerable time in all those cities -- some I could live in, others not so much. I doubt many of the naysayers have not experienced the diversity of Texas. My guess is that some of the naysayers have never actually been there at all. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 22:18:11 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Dec 11 16:45:43 2012. One thing that's interesting is that almost every tiny town has a restored depot that is used as a museum displaying how the railroad helped build the town. More so than many towns and cities up east, towns in the west lived and died by the railroad. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 22:19:18 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 11 18:16:17 2012. I never told you that, OBS. I've known for years about the outward migration from CA to TX. Besides, I never call anyone stupid. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 11 22:24:26 2012, in response to Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 08:21:17 2012. Too bad that figure is just 2011 though, more than that amount is in just one town. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Dec 11 22:32:31 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Tue Dec 11 09:18:12 2012. And this tool |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Dec 11 22:35:07 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Dec 11 15:24:22 2012. I like the DART rail system, wouldn't mind riding it some day. Houston Metrorail...meh. As for Austin, diesel powered light rail sucks. And of course, San Antonio has nothing, rail-wise. :( |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 22:45:55 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by shiznit1987 on Tue Dec 11 19:49:29 2012. Those are the states around California. That's where our productive (and not so productive) residents are fleeing to. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 22:49:38 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Charles G on Tue Dec 11 21:49:21 2012. I've been to Dallas and El Paso plus some smaller towns. Never been to Houston, Austin, or San Antonio. I haven't liked it all that much but I get what you're saying. Texas is a huge state with lots of variety. El Paso is my least favorite city though. I'd rather live in Camden although I've never been there so maybe not. |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Dec 12 01:05:54 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Charles G on Tue Dec 11 21:49:21 2012. It's not particularly different from people who say they could never live in California based on the perception that it's somehow inherently different from their norm. Large states with large, heterogeneous populations defy the stereotyping that we seem to find so comforting in pigeonholing smaller states. California and Texas fulfill the same roles for the opposite ends of the political spectrum when in truth they're not tremendously different. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 01:12:31 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 08:38:47 2012. I hear that your salary goes pretty far in Texas.Especially if you are an undocumented immigrant trying to send money home. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 01:14:53 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Easy on Tue Dec 11 12:16:42 2012. The political view of people in TX and NY are hardly monolitic.Austin is much more liberal than NYC. Upstate NY is much more conservative than Dallas. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 01:17:55 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by WillD on Wed Dec 12 01:05:54 2012. California and Texas fulfill the same roles for the opposite ends of the political spectrum when in truth they're not tremendously different.Except that California has incredible physical and natural beauty and breathtaking cities like San Fran and Monterrey while Texas has none of these things. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 01:20:22 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 22:18:11 2012. One thing that's interesting is that almost every tiny town has a restored depot that is used as a museum displaying how the railroad helped build the town.in NY, we've got LIVING and BREATHING rail museums like Grand Central Terminal. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 12 07:27:38 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 01:14:53 2012. Very true. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 12 07:43:06 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 01:17:55 2012. You've obviously never visited Big Bend Country in West Texas. Much of the area is part of the Chihuahuan Desert. The desert's mountains, valleys and plains offer a rugged beauty that must be seen to be appreciated.The Hill Country region offers rolling hills with beautiful wildflowers. There are plenty of gorgeous lakes and rivers, too, because the state parks are magnificent. I'm partial to the Piney Woods in East Texas. It contains thousands of acres of pine and hardwood forests, and the state's four national forests and five state forests are here. During the fall the colors are breathtaking as the trees turn - we've got sassafras, persimmon, maples, magnolias, sweetgums, dogwoods, elms and oaks. The Rio Grande Valley in the South Texas Plains is one of the best birding and butterfly-watching spots in North America. The San Antonio River Walk is very pretty. Don't knock what you don't know! |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 12 07:44:32 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 01:20:22 2012. Yes, and Boston has South and North Stations, while Chicago has several large terminals and LA has LAUS. So your point is.....? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 08:15:12 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 12 07:43:06 2012. You've obviously never visited Big Bend Country in West Texas. Much of the area is part of the Chihuahuan Desert. The desert's mountains, valleys and plains offer a rugged beauty that must be seen to be appreciated.Yes, I have. Driven through it multiple times. It's the only part of Texas that has any considerable natural beauty. Even then, next door's New Mexico blows it away. it all pales to what most of CA's landscape has to offer. The Hill Country region offers rolling hills with beautiful wildflowers. There are plenty of gorgeous lakes and rivers, too, because the state parks are magnificent. I'm partial to the Piney Woods in East Texas. It contains thousands of acres of pine and hardwood forests, and the state's four national forests and five state forests are here. During the fall the colors are breathtaking as the trees turn - we've got sassafras, persimmon, maples, magnolias, sweetgums, dogwoods, elms and oaks. You can find that and much better anywhere in the US. There is nothing special or unique about it. The Rio Grande Valley in the South Texas Plains is one of the best birding and butterfly-watching spots in North America. The San Antonio River Walk is very pretty. LOL! Wow, the Riverwalk? Butterflies? I hope you realize how desperate that sounds. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 12 09:03:22 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 08:15:12 2012. And for desert, southern and eastern Utah blow away the Big Bend region as well as everything you mentioned. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Dec 12 09:32:27 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 01:14:53 2012. People from Texas that come to California say that Austin is liberal by Texas standards but not nearly as liberal as most of LA or SF. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 12 09:36:55 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by SMAZ on Wed Dec 12 01:14:53 2012. Upstate NY is much more conservative than Dallas.Not so sure. Maybe slightly more conservative. A majority of upstate NY voters voted for Obama in 2012. Unless you meant rural upstate NY. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 12 13:55:36 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 12 09:36:55 2012. The Hudson corridor to Albany is as liberal as San Francisco. The only difference is that we do not suffer fools. Western NY is a bit more conservative, excluding some locales, but they are nothing close to the south. And surely *nothing* like Texas, even its most "liberal" parts. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 12 15:06:00 2012, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 11 10:30:23 2012. I wouldn't live there for jack..gotta friend who does..and she hates it..too many ultra rightwing nut jobs..who know what better for YOU than YOU DO. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 8 21:41:25 2025, in response to Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 08:21:17 2012. bump |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Sep 8 22:35:51 2025, in response to Re: Welcome to Texas! What took you so long?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 8 21:41:25 2025. They're going to love Austin's new logo.Of course many of the people who arrived since 2012 have left. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Sep 9 02:28:48 2025, in response to Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 08:21:17 2012. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Sep 9 02:29:22 2025, in response to Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 08:21:17 2012. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Sep 9 02:29:28 2025, in response to Welcome to Texas - what took you so long?, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 11 08:21:17 2012. |
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