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Re: An Article Worth Reading: Why They Hate Israel

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 24 22:09:43 2014, in response to Re: An Article Worth Reading: Why They Hate Israel, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 21 19:18:57 2014.

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Israel places restrictions on who can enter or leave Gaza, which I also disagree with and is not commonplace.


Israel disengaged from Gaza and has created a Palestinian enclave in Gaza. Please explain to me the difference in the crossing between Gaza and Egypt (where Egypt supposedly limits only entry) and Gaza and Israel (where Israel supposedly limits both exits from Gaza and entry in to Israel)? Do you realize that someone who is permitted to leave Gaza but denied entry to Egypt is also being barred from leaving Gaza? It appears YOU are the one who doesn't understand the situation at hand in this circumstance.


At least you're willing to admit that Israel is, in fact, blockading Gaza and that Gaza is, in fact, kept impoverished as a result of this blockade.


Hamas is impoverishing the citizens of Gaza by diverting humanitarian supplies from the civilian population to wage terror attacks on Israel. Israel is merely defending its citizens, as any other nation would. No country is going to allow shipments of weapons in to a territory that it shares a border with so that those shipments can be returned to the first country in the form of missiles and rockets. Again, do you not understand which party is to blame in this instance?

No, but IDF soldiers enter civilian areas, which makes those areas "military targets" by Israel's logic.

When the IDF enter civilian areas to conduct operations in the area bordering Gaza, citizens are evacuated from the military zone. When Hamas sets up shop IN A HOSPITAL, the civilians remain in the same hospital. Exactly how you expect Israel to take out the Hamas operatives when they are nestled among civilians in that manner? Once again, do you not see the difference between how the IDF shields civilians while Hamas hides behind civilians?

So a hospital or a crowded mosque becomes a "military target" by the presence of one dude?

Correct. Collateral damage is an unfortunate cost of waging war. Israel still attempts to minimize such collateral damage. Hamas could care less.


Take a look at the West Bank sometime. If you can't see it, then you're blind.


Most Israelis oppose the establishment of tiny settler outposts that use up significant IDF resources in order to secure those outposts. Most Israelis expect that small settlements (accounting for significant territory in the future Palestinian state) will be evacuated as part of a peace agreement with the Palestinians.

I also recommend you pay attention to current affairs, since you seem to love dredging up ancient history to justify current oppression. What happened in 1947 that justifies the death of someone born in 2002?

I'm trying not to laugh too hard at the fact YOU are telling ME to pay more attention to history when you claim that historical events dating back over three millennia are not relevant to the current conflict. Ancient history is why the Jews stake a claim to modern-day Israel. To deny that history is to deny the Jewish people a right to their homeland.

Fine, you only want Palestinians to be kept in the historical definition of a concentration camp rather than the post-1940s euphemism "concentration camp" which isn't actually much of an improvement.

You'd have to pay far more attention to what I actually say to know what I truly think. You missed the mark by a long shot, however.

If you think Hamas took power by retroactively using the power they had after they took it to coerce people into giving it to them in the first place, then I'd like to take your time machine out for a spin.

If you think Hamas tactics suddenly changed in 2007, you're dead wrong, no pun intended. You seem to have no clue how Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, and other similar organizations operate.

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