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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 30 10:39:38 2019 This is an interesting thing. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Oct 30 12:04:16 2019, in response to ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 30 10:39:38 2019. Should be interesting when NYPD and FDNY block the bus lane with their personal vehicles, |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Oct 30 13:08:07 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Oct 30 12:04:16 2019. There was a recent report that the new bike lane on 4 Av in Brooklyn has become a parking lot for cops' personal vehicles near the precinct house. And Mayor DeBlasio talks about enhanced enforcement for vision zero. Whose enforcing against the enforcers? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 30 13:54:58 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by gbs on Wed Oct 30 13:08:07 2019. Nobody.There is a firehouse on E.14th near First Ave. On the south side curb of 14th between Second & First the M14 bus lane is taken up by FDNY personal vehicles. As a retired transit worker, I deeply resent this because we don't have parking privileges like NYPD, FDNY and UFT by their schools. |
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Posted by Dan on Wed Oct 30 15:46:18 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 30 13:54:58 2019. Yes but don't many of the TA facilities have employee parking areas? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 30 17:36:25 2019, in response to ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 30 10:39:38 2019. Good to know we have a 5-minute grace period for pickups and dropoffs. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 30 17:39:31 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Dan on Wed Oct 30 15:46:18 2019. The yards do, but there are no dedicated parking spaces near terminals like Euclid or 168 St for employees who report to those locations. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 30 18:40:16 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 30 17:39:31 2019. Even in the yards due to new construction the number of parking spaces are shrinking.Plus CED leaders have had it out for RTO employees for the past several years. For train service employees who may work report to or near yards the TA parking pass means nothing. You also need a special sticker for that particular yard. CED management would rather reserve that for their own people. If an RTO person changes their work location or works vacation relief or extra list they are put at a big disadvantage. |
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Posted by gbs on Thu Oct 31 04:04:04 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 30 13:54:58 2019. Yes, when did free on-site workplace parking get negotiated into the police and fire departments' contracts? I often pass the 110 precinct on 43 Av in Corona, Queens and see the cars parked all over the place: perpendicular, double-parked, in people's driveways or blocking their driveways, in the intersections, on sidewalks, etc. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 31 09:46:16 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by gbs on Thu Oct 31 04:04:04 2019. Preferred parking should only be ok where street signage permits it for NYPD and FDNY.Always no parking at fire hydrants, driveways and crosswalks. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 31 09:50:26 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 30 17:36:25 2019. I'm guessing the grace period is just an unintended consequence since the system needs some small duration to verify that the offender is really stopped/parked. Otherwise, it's more difficult to prove someones stopped with just one photograph taken. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 31 20:20:04 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 30 18:40:16 2019. I though that XL and V/R personnel were allowed all location parking passes. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 31 22:41:13 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 31 20:20:04 2019. Not any more. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Nov 1 03:06:06 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Oct 30 12:04:16 2019. If they do, they will now get ticketed, and the practice should soon stop, since the bus cameras will not give cops the "professional courtesy" they got from their colleagues, and neither will DOT or whoever processes the tickets. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 1 15:55:25 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Nov 1 03:06:06 2019. Are you sure? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Nov 1 18:45:21 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 1 15:55:25 2019. Police defense: Official business. Not only that but emergency vehicles which include police cars are exempt from many traffic regulations. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Nov 1 23:11:56 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Fri Nov 1 18:45:21 2019. Not personal cars.NYPD Restricted Parking placards are valid only for the Precinct they work, and not to park on sidewalks, bus stops, bus/bike lanes, No Standing zones (except truck loading zones), sidewalks a crosswalks and driveways. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Nov 1 23:18:52 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by gbs on Wed Oct 30 13:08:07 2019. Oh yes this story and that is not the only bike lane blocked. Columbus Circle's bike lane is already under siege from Transit Bureau 2 vehicles illegally blocking while Trump International and 15 Central Park West take over with their fake parking placards. Go Google Street view any police Precinct or firehouse and you will see the damage which the world is viewing. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 2 16:14:25 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Nov 1 23:11:56 2019. Some NYPD placards are good for all areas since detectives and other plainclothes officers often have to travel outside their precincts to serve warrants, effect arrests and other police duties. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 2 18:35:46 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 30 17:36:25 2019. I saw video from an MTA board meeting where one of the female board members demanded to know why there was a five minute grace period, instead of a one minute grace period, or a zero tolerance policy.First off, it's still legal to expeditiously stop to pick up or drop someone off. Doesn't matter if it's a bus lane or not. Secondly, if you're dropping off someone who is elderly or disabled, it may take a little longer to safely extract them from the vehicle, and maybe walk them to the front door of the building. Five minutes seems fair. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 2 19:55:31 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 2 18:35:46 2019. Good. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Nov 2 21:14:23 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 2 18:35:46 2019. It's good that they take that into consideration. |
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Posted by davidy on Sat Nov 2 22:46:23 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 2 18:35:46 2019. No Standing does not allow you to leave your drivers seat even to walk a disabled person to the building door. A camera you can get away with it but not a person writing the ticket in person |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 3 01:08:08 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Fri Nov 1 18:45:21 2019. Cameras don't know or care. And back-office DOT employees who process the photos will not be part of the cops' good-ol'-boys culture that prevents other cops from ticketing them. (I'm talking about officers' private cars that don't have legit reasons for parking where they do.) |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 3 01:17:17 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 2 18:35:46 2019. I hope another member explained that to her. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Nov 3 06:57:27 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 2 16:14:25 2019. There are two types of NYPD parking placards, official ones which look like the NY State placards and are good anywhere EXCEPT bike/bus lanes, hydrants (except in actual 911 emergencies or to expeditiously pick up a suspect)Restricted Placards are for a single personal vehicle only valid where they work. Any NYPD MOS or civilian can have one each. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 4 03:03:18 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by davidy on Sat Nov 2 22:46:23 2019. If you are aiding a disabled person ypou might be able to convince a live person with these 3 little letters: ADA!. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 4 03:04:41 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 3 01:08:08 2019. Presenting appropriate evidence at a DOT hearing should take care of that. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Nov 4 07:16:04 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 4 03:04:41 2019. It's actually Department of Finance which conducts the hearings. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Nov 4 07:17:24 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 3 01:08:08 2019. And that's why parking enforcement within NYPD Transport should be returned back to NYC DOT. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Nov 4 14:30:58 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Nov 2 18:35:46 2019. no no no. It's an automated system, you need the computer to have verification that you were - in fact - stopped there illegally.Giving someone a picture of you "standing" in the bus lane by an automated camera doesn't do anything. Did you pull to the side to let a cop pass, etc etc. Did you even stop? 5 minutes, two automated pictures is what gets rid of the question. How do you people get on the board without common sense? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Nov 4 14:32:55 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Fri Nov 1 18:45:21 2019. I heard postal vehicles out-rank all of them. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 4 17:56:45 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Nov 4 14:30:58 2019. You ought to know. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 5 00:03:34 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Nov 4 14:32:55 2019. AFAIK that’s because the postal vehicle are federal and as such not directly answerable to local authorities. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 5 00:13:36 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 5 00:03:34 2019. I just checked the US Govt website and it mentions that Federal Gov’t drivers are required to observe local traffic regulations except when their duties require otherwise. That in effect would seem to mean that if a postal truck were parked in a restricted location in order to pick up or deliver then it would be exempt. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 5 17:15:15 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 5 00:13:36 2019. Even so, I'd like to bet that they'd never pay that bill if cited. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 5 17:15:48 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 4 17:56:45 2019. Here we go again, Jews control the gov't.Sure duder. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Nov 5 20:12:25 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 5 17:15:48 2019. ????? |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 5 20:49:35 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 5 17:15:15 2019. If I can recall from some of my American History courses, local governments are virtually powerless against the Feds. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 5 21:39:44 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 5 20:49:35 2019. The USPS can not be forced to pay fines levied by local government. However, their rules require their employees follow traffic rules and they can and will discipline drivers as necessary. The drivers do not have immunity. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Nov 6 07:18:47 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 5 21:39:44 2019. Seems to be a lack of discipline as many of these USPS employees using personal car have fake parking placards - - many of them the pre-1996 USPS logo. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Nov 6 09:43:42 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Nov 6 07:18:47 2019. Another contingent in the placard parade... There aren't very many USPS employees using personal vehicles in NYC. The only semi legit purpose ID might serve is at a post office where signs reserve parking for USPS vehicles and employees use the spots and the id avoids tickets. Those spots would not be available to the public anyway. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Nov 6 12:12:27 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by pragmatist on Wed Nov 6 09:43:42 2019. It's pathetic when Mayor De Blasio announces at least two crackdowns on this parking placard abuse by almost everyone doing while the rest of us masses have to groan this New Yorker phrase "I can't find a parking spot".I can name over 100 locations across all 5 boroughs. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 13:10:29 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 5 20:49:35 2019. Yet Minneapolis is trying to bill Trump for police?But you're right, there is that whole thing too. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 13:13:36 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 5 21:39:44 2019. "However, their rules require their employees follow traffic rules and they can and will discipline drivers as necessary."Yeah, what does that mean? I complained about one angry mail lady (never in uniform btw) who was driving dangerously enough to actually warrant such a thing. Five years later she's still on route. Then again these freaks I live around refuse to ever complain about anything. I had to get a gas leak fixed after almost a year of smelling it, potholes fixed after 5 years of growth(they came the very next day!), etc etc etc. So really, the only discipline there probably is if you actually get arrested by a cop or killed. Otherwise, like really. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Nov 6 13:21:05 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Nov 6 12:12:27 2019. He (DiBlasio) has not learned the simple rule that if you don't intend to do anything, you are better off shutting up. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Nov 6 13:22:58 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 6 13:13:36 2019. It means the same thing in most large organizations, public or private. We aren't going to any more than that which is absolutely necessary. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 6 14:18:24 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 4 03:03:18 2019. Yup.Five minutes rules. |
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Posted by Dan on Wed Nov 6 17:55:13 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Nov 1 23:18:52 2019. '...and you will see the damage which the world is viewing...'A bit extreme wouldn't you say? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 6 17:56:14 2019, in response to Re: ABLE: stay out of our bus lanes!, posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 5 21:39:44 2019. However, as the clause I quoted mentioned, if a USPS driver has to violate traffic rules in order to perform his/her duties such as mail pickup/delivery, then it is permitted. |
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