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Private Transportation B110
Posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Feb 18 10:47:48 2019 I went out to check the B110 to see if there was anything new. They bought 2501 from Harrisburg Capital Area Transit (CAT), and possibly 2502. The rest of the fleet is made up of ex-Orlando LYNX Gillig Phantoms. 520 - Ex-LYNX 521 521 - Ex-LYNX 525 522 - Ex-LYNX 532 551, 552, 553 kept their LYNX numbers. I wonder if they still have the WMATA Orion V buses, but I did not see them on their tracker. ...Yes, they have a tracker: https://www.wbbpbusco.com/track-bus. Type in "Trackbus" and then "wbp". Also spotted was Monsey 7708, with GO Transit 2202 still visible on the roof.
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Re: Private Transportation B110
Posted by Joe V* on Mon Feb 18 10:58:24 2019, in response to Private Transportation B110, posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Feb 18 10:47:48 2019.* Can the general public ride those buses ?
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Posted by GojiMet86* on Mon Feb 18 11:21:29 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 18 10:58:24 2019.* They should be able to.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Mon Feb 18 12:25:14 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 18 10:58:24 2019.* I always had the impression this route was not open to the general public.
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Mon Feb 18 12:35:33 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 18 12:25:14 2019.* I always had the impression this route was not open to the general public. It is open to the public.
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Re: Private Transportation B110
Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Mon Feb 18 12:38:34 2019, in response to Private Transportation B110, posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Feb 18 10:47:48 2019.* If they're wrapping the buses with brachos, do they have to be buried as shaimos instead of traditional scrapping?
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Posted by Joe V* on Mon Feb 18 13:07:26 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Feb 18 12:35:33 2019.* How do you pay the fare ? Do men and woman have to segregate on it ?
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Mon Feb 18 13:51:24 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 18 13:07:26 2019.* How do you pay the fare ? $3.25, exact change. Don't know if they accept bills. No Metrocards. Do men and woman have to segregate on it ? No, but most passengers prefer to.
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Posted by pragmatist* on Mon Feb 18 14:31:49 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Feb 18 13:51:24 2019.* There was segregation at one time, it was ruled illegal. But the people who ride that bus do it voluntarily, so it is rarely an issue.
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Posted by randyo* on Mon Feb 18 15:01:38 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Feb 18 12:35:33 2019.* That’s similar to the “school trips” operated by NYCT Bus. At one time the school trips which are operated as additional trips on regular routes from schools with heavy dismissal crowds only carried the students. At one point, I believe in the 1980s, the Feds stepped in and ruled that since the MTA was receiving Federal subsidies, the school trips had to accept regular passengers as well. If course I doubt that any passenger in his/her right mind would want to ride in a bus full of screaming high school students, but they were allowed to anyhow.
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Mon Feb 18 15:57:12 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by randyo on Mon Feb 18 15:01:38 2019.* That’s similar to the “school trips” operated by NYCT Bus. At one time the school trips which are operated as additional trips on regular routes from schools with heavy dismissal crowds only carried the students. At one point, I believe in the 1980s, the Feds stepped in and ruled that since the MTA was receiving Federal subsidies, the school trips had to accept regular passengers as well. It isn't similar at all. The B110 has always been open to all, and it has never received any subsidies.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Mon Feb 18 16:08:55 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Feb 18 13:51:24 2019.* If no MetroCards are accepted on this route, it could be inferred that the public is not encouraged to use this service. Just sayin'...
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Re: Private Transportation B110
Posted by randyo* on Mon Feb 18 16:26:36 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Feb 18 15:57:12 2019.* I’m not talking about how it used to be I’m talking about NOW!
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Mon Feb 18 16:29:07 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 18 16:08:55 2019.* FALSE!
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Posted by MTA T* on Mon Feb 18 16:40:32 2019, in response to Private Transportation B110, posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Feb 18 10:47:48 2019.* I assume from this that the B110 operator retired their fleet of Orion 5s?
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Posted by italianstallion* on Mon Feb 18 17:42:19 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 18 10:58:24 2019.* Required to allow all, per city franchise agreement.
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Posted by andy* on Mon Feb 18 18:44:31 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 18 10:58:24 2019.* How come the B-110 doesn't appear on the MTA Brooklyn Bus Map if it's open to all?
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Posted by randyo* on Mon Feb 18 22:10:36 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by italianstallion on Mon Feb 18 17:42:19 2019.* Makes sense!
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Posted by GojiMet86* on Mon Feb 18 23:58:13 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by MTA T on Mon Feb 18 16:40:32 2019.* I think so, might stop by Smith-9th to check it out later.
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Posted by JAzumah* on Tue Feb 19 04:12:18 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by randyo on Mon Feb 18 16:26:36 2019.* The B110 was always open to the public. Finding the bus was an entirely different matter until they started posting its stops.
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Posted by JAzumah* on Tue Feb 19 04:13:24 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by andy on Mon Feb 18 18:44:31 2019.* The MTA controls that map. The B110 was on the NYCDOT bus map.
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Tue Feb 19 08:29:16 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 18 16:08:55 2019.* If no MetroCards are accepted on this route, it could be inferred that the public is not encouraged to use this service. Just sayin'... As much as the public is not encouraged to ride LIRR, Metro North, NJ Transit, etc. Why should the MTA get paid for your ride on an independent operator's bus?
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Posted by pragmatist* on Tue Feb 19 09:32:59 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Feb 19 08:29:16 2019.* They have no tie to the MTA. They are a NYCDOT franchise holder. Most of those ceased to exist when they were bought out in the creation of MTA BUus. Right now, I believe it is just B110 and "The Red Bus" on Roosevelt Island. Red Bus is free, and B110 is unsubsidized.... NetroCard can be used for non MTA applications..NICE Bus, PATH, and JFK Airtrain are prime examples, but they require complex agreements and systems for allocation of revenue, and in the case of NICE, transfers add another layer. Why pay for something you have no real need for.
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Posted by pragmatist* on Tue Feb 19 09:34:30 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by pragmatist on Tue Feb 19 09:32:59 2019.* Time to clean my glasses....and my keyboard
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 19 10:15:07 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Feb 19 08:29:16 2019.* With buses only, you can say the public is not encouraged to ride the City of Long Beach bus, which is smack in the middle of MetroCard territory (NICE).
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Posted by BusMgr* on Tue Feb 19 11:17:53 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by italianstallion on Mon Feb 18 17:42:19 2019.* Better stated the other way around. That is, the franchise was granted in response to the bus company being a common carrier.
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Posted by BusMgr* on Tue Feb 19 11:30:43 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by andy on Mon Feb 18 18:44:31 2019.* Other carriers within the city of New York do not appear on MTA maps. For example, Greyhound Lines operates an unmapped bus route between Brooklyn and Manhattan. NY Waterway operates unmapped bus routes in Manhattan. SNT Bus (Metro-North) operates unmapped bus routes in the Bronx. RIOC operates an unmapped bus route in Manhattan. Golden Touch (Downtown Alliance) operates an unmapped bus route in Manhattan. The decisions by the New York City Transit Authority as to what routes appear on its maps appear to be arbitrary, decided by whim.
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Re: Private Transportation B110
Posted by Joe V* on Tue Feb 19 17:26:29 2019, in response to Re: Private Transportation B110, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 19 10:15:07 2019.* They still call the Point Lookout/Lido Beach bus the N69, even though MSBA got rid of it in the early 1980's by bus massacre by County Exec (Gullota ?).
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