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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 16:09:32 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:34:06 2016. But how would he go around? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:27:53 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 28 15:37:13 2016. Yes, but since I was the first one making the turn, I had to turn into the right hand lane. That was most practicable for me. . I would have no way of knowing if a car behind me also wanted to turn right. But if someone behind me turned into the adjacent lane, he would not have been wrong according to the statute. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:30:51 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:07:05 2016. It does not use the word "lanes" because in some areas you may be required to turn into a shoulder.I am sure they do not expect you to straddle two lanes. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:34:35 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:17:22 2016. I never disputed that many drivers keep excessive distance.I was talking about aggressive drivers going 10 or 15 miles faster than everyone else by switching lanes five times in two seconds. Doing that while leaving only one car length ahead and behind you at 60 or 75 mph is not safe. If you call one car length at that speed "adequate clearance", you are dead wrong. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:36:52 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Wed Sep 28 15:50:13 2016. I certainly know how to make links in my posts and I always do it when starting a new thread.But I am not going to take the extra time here when I get all this flack from you and others especially when I had to post the same URL about ten times. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:38:42 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 16:08:03 2016. As I stated, what was most practicable for me was to turn into the rightmost lane snack I had no idea if there was anyone behind me who also wanted to turn right. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:39:43 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:34:06 2016. Exactly. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:41:50 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:20:01 2016. It also states you must turn into the right most area of the road. As I stated elsewhere, the word "lane" is not used because in some cases you may be required to turn into a shoulder. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 28 18:42:06 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 28 15:37:13 2016. Ok? And? |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 28 18:43:58 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:36:52 2016. What extra time? It takes like 5 seconds if you know how to do it and even less time with plugins.And if you're including the same link multiple times you can just copy and paste!!! |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 28 18:45:29 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 16:08:03 2016. But then....? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 28 18:46:15 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 16:09:32 2016. Not sure what you mean. I may have to draw a diagram. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 28 18:47:33 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:41:50 2016. No it doesn't. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 20:02:18 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:30:51 2016. It doesn't use the word lane because where the right-most (or only) lane is extra wide, one must always turn from the rightmost edge of said lane. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 20:05:29 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:34:35 2016. You were not specific enough. You mentioned a general case so I explained why it is not correct in general.It has nothing to do with length. It is all about time. The faster you are going the greater distance you will need. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 20:07:29 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 18:38:42 2016. Nothing wrong with turning into the right-most lane. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 22:32:42 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 28 18:47:33 2016. IAWTP |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:36:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 20:05:29 2016. The length and time should have been obvious because I was talking about aggressive drivers who never allow adequate safe distances or times when passing. Yet you defended their actions saying there is nothing wrong with frequent lane changes. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:36:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 20:07:29 2016. I believe that is not what you said before, but it could have been someone else. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:38:23 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 22:32:42 2016. So which of my statements do you disagree with? The first one, the second, or both? |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:43:34 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:50:37 2016. You are incorrect on every count and you say I shouldn't be driving. What a joke!! |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blv |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:45:20 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blv, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:53:54 2016. You don't think that everyone who reads a post responds?So what did you say regarding that? |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:47:39 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:56:37 2016. That is what you posted.You said, I should have immediately made the turn and then just kept going once I saw that no one was in the crosswalk although I stated someone started running across the street outside of the crosswalk just after I cleared the nears idle edge of the crosswalk. Changing your story again? |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:49:41 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:16:31 2016. My previous response still stands. No matter how I reply you will always insist you are correct and I am wrong. I am through with this bullshit. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 29 11:54:33 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:36:05 2016. Your implication was that all frequent lane changes are aggressive. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 29 11:55:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:36:54 2016. It may have been your misinterpretation or I may have been unclear. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 29 11:57:02 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:38:23 2016. Both. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:58:06 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 29 11:54:33 2016. They are.Someone who changes lanes five times in ten seconds which was the example I used is most certainly not allowing an adequate safe clearing distance. At sixty mph, it would be impossible to do in ten seconds with adequate clearing distances. One car clearance in front and behnd at 60 mph is not safe. But that is what you defended as being okay. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 29 12:00:34 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:58:06 2016. No, I didn't. Until now, you did not bother to define "frequent." If that is your definition of frequent, then I will have to agree. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 13:34:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 29 11:57:02 2016. But here you agreed there was nothing wrong with turning into the rightmost lane:http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=319096 Now you say you disagree with my statement that you must turn into the rightmost lane by stating you disagree with both statements. So which is it? |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 29 14:24:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 13:34:54 2016. Are you serious?Just because something is acceptable doesn't make it mandatory. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 17:20:51 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:58:06 2016. Ten seconds? You sure? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 17:21:32 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 29 14:24:07 2016. Pwn3d |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 17:22:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 13:34:54 2016. Wow. Just wow. You REALLY can't see the difference???? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 17:23:26 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:43:34 2016. No I'm not. Yes I do. No it's not.You're wrong, and a liar. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 17:23:41 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:50:37 2016. Bump. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blv |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 17:24:35 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blv, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:45:20 2016. Correct.You tell me. You made the false claim that you can't backup. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 17:26:42 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:47:39 2016. No it's not.That's not what you said in the post I replied to. Unlike you, I don't change my story. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 21:48:39 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:49:41 2016. No, your previous response does not still stand, as I have clearly shown. The fact that you have no relevant response speaks volumes about how very wrong you really are. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 29 23:41:53 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:23:46 2016. bump |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 30 01:28:20 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:07:48 2016. I didn't say at that time that he was running because it wasn't relevent until people started asking questions and wanted clarification.Your story may have been technically correct but it was totally implausible before you said someone was running. When you say crossing no one thinks you mean running even though running is a form of crossing. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Sep 30 07:19:18 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Thu Sep 22 13:23:19 2016. Pedestrians not using the crosswalk do not have the right of way. |
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Re: Terrapin does not know how to drive Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Sep 30 07:20:24 2016, in response to Re: Terrapin does not know how to drive Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Sep 19 15:52:36 2016. The car ahead cannot obstruct the intersection. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Sep 30 07:25:35 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 30 01:28:20 2016. What I find implausible is that ALL of the pedestrians were jaywalking north of the 8th Ave crosswalk AND nobody was using the same crosswalk as the light turn green. 20 people were crossing midblock while nobody was using the crosswalk at the start of the green phase at one of the busiest intersections of the world. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Sep 30 07:29:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Mon Sep 26 15:54:10 2016. The pedestrians were crossing midblock, so they didn't have the right of way.But he was careless in his statement that if the pedestrians were in the crosswalk, then he would have rammed about 20 innocent victims and be in the violation of the law for failure in exercising due care as well as the new Vision Zero right of way law. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Sep 30 07:31:13 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Sep 26 14:40:42 2016. No, you said that if the pedestrians were in the crosswalk then you would have not been able to stop.What story of the day are you using - - GauntletBus? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 30 08:14:21 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Sep 30 07:25:35 2016. pwn3d |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 30 08:15:03 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 30 01:28:20 2016. Exactly. BrooklynBus thinks he's a planner yet he doesn't understand the difference between walking and running across a street????????? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 30 09:38:04 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Sep 30 07:25:35 2016. Let's take him at his word that no pedestrian moved for 2 second. So BB moves forward and turns, blocking the crosswalk. Then he comes to a halt because someone is running across 8 Ave in front of him. Now the other 20 people are crossing in front of him, outside the crosswalk.It's at least plausible. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 30 12:28:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 30 09:38:04 2016. No, to be semi-consistent with his earlier posts, you'd have to say that the first guy ran out into the street just outside of the crosswalk when his car was fully within the crosswalk. |
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