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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:18:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:01:24 2016.

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Yes there is. You sat on yo ass when the light turned green. Turn in your license now !!!

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:19:51 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:02:05 2016.

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Wrong. I was right to doubt you. You now admitted you're not really sure what was behind you looking to turn.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:21:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:05:16 2016.

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No, you are wrong, on all counts.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:23:46 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:07:48 2016.

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Wrong. It was completely relevant since walking and running are two different things.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:24:42 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:16:33 2016.

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Yep

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:25:09 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:47:46 2016.

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And we already told you that's not a valid reason.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:29:22 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:12:05 2016.

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Wrong, it's like I just said. Dick.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:32:01 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:15:31 2016.

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I never said you didn't clear the intersection. WTF? Read back up the thread you lonely swashbuckler.

Yes Stephem most certainly did say something to dispute that. Pay attention.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:33:17 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:18:31 2016.

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Nope. We all already told you that what you did was wrong. Damn wrong.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:34:23 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:20:47 2016.

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Wrong. LOL! You're so wrong Donald Trump would marry your sister!!

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:36:12 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:15:08 2016.

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Exactly.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:36:59 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:46:54 2016.

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You're an idiot. Really. There's no other explanation unless you are trolling like a moron.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:37:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:12:48 2016.

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Exactly.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:38:33 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:08:45 2016.

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Owned.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:38:55 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:11:12 2016.

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Right.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:39:37 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Sep 27 23:08:19 2016.

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LOLOLOLOLOL

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by R30A on Wed Sep 28 01:26:12 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:10:48 2016.

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But they didn't. Unless they wave you on, they are not forfeiting their right of way.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 28 07:49:00 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:10:48 2016.

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No, it wasnt because you were being nice. It was because you are ignorant and wrong. In fact you were being mean in light of the rules of the road.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 09:19:42 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:12:48 2016.

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Many big suburban streets have right lane must turn right, next lane may turn right. So suburban drivers shouldn't get into the habit of turning into anything except the right-most lane unless they're sure.



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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:21:22 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:12:48 2016.

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Sorry, but the drivers manual is for all drivers.

I suppose "experienced" drivers should not cone to a complete stop at stop signs, make wide turns, cut off pedestrians, break the speed limit, drive aggressively, etc.

CUT UP YOUR LICENSE NOW AND STOP ENDANGERNG ALL OF US.



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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:21:41 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:37:54 2016.

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Same advice to you.

Sorry, but the drivers manual is for all drivers.

I suppose "experienced" drivers should not cone to a complete stop at stop signs, make wide turns, cut off pedestrians, break the speed limit, drive aggressively, etc.

CUT UP YOUR LICENSE NOW AND STOP ENDANGERNG ALL OF US.



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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:23:01 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:08:45 2016.

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And I suppose that statute advises drivers to make wide turns at ntersection S like 42nd and 8th?

Prove it!

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:23:56 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:11:12 2016.

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The manual does not say it is legal either.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:24:56 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:15:08 2016.

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No it was red and Terrapin said I should not have waited for ANY reason.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:25:47 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:36:59 2016.

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Just acting like you and giving you your own medcine. How do you like it?

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:26:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:16:33 2016.

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And as others stated, since no one was crossing the street, there was no reason to stop again 25 feet later at the near edge of the crosswalk.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:32:24 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:21:22 2016.

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I suppose "experienced" drivers should not cone to a complete stop at stop signs, make wide turns, cut off pedestrians, break the speed limit, drive aggressively, etc.
Way to miss the point. Is there a law/statutue about any of those items? If so, then they must be followed. If not, then Spider-Pig's advice re: the turning lanes would apply to them as well. Use your brain. Why do we need to tell you this???

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:32:59 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:21:41 2016.

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Same advice to you.
Way to miss the point. Is there a law/statutue about any of those items? If so, then they must be followed. If not, then Spider-Pig's advice re: the turning lanes would apply to them as well. Use your brain. Why do we need to tell you this???

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:33:16 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:23:01 2016.

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Wow. Just...wow.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:33:46 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:23:56 2016.

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The state doesn't say being an idiot is legal either.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:34:44 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:24:56 2016.

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No it was red and Terrapin said I should not have waited for ANY reason.
No, it was green and I said you should not have waited for NO reason. How did you screw that up so bad????

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:35:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:25:47 2016.

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No you're not. You're acting in the complete opposite of me. I'm giving you correct advice and you're responding with complete stupidity.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 28 09:36:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:11:12 2016.

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You claimed that turning otherwise into the closest lane is illegal. It isn't.

§ 1160. Required position and method of turning at intersections. The driver of a vehicle intending to turn at an intersection shall do so as follows:

(a) Right turns. Both the approach for a right turn and a right turn shall be made as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway or, where travel on the shoulder or slope has been authorized, from the shoulder or slope.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:36:10 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:22:40 2016.

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Thanks for your admission in the third paragraph.

But your other two paragraphs convince me that you are a HORRIBLE driver.

FREQUENT LANE CHANGES ARE ALWAYS DANGEROUS.

They assume that everyone else will cntunue traveling at the speed they are currently going. If so, there won't be any accidents. However, IF EVEN ONE DRIVER HAPPENS TO CHANGE HIS SPEED, like deciding to speed up at the moment someone is cutting ahead of him, BANG, you have an accident.

Driving aggressively is dumb no matter nphow good a driver you think you may be because YOU ARE NLY IN CONTROL OF YOUR OWN ACTIONS, not anyone else's.

That's why good driving practice on a highway is to travel at the same speed everyone else is traveling even if everyone is say speeding at 5 or 10 mph above the speed limit.

It is poor driving practice to be traveling slower (unless your flashers are on) or faster than everyone else. If everyone is doing 69, and you are the n,y one doing 75 and constantly changing lanes, YOU ARE A MENACE TO EVERYONE ON THE ROAD.

Accelerating toward a red light IS NEVER USEFUL. It is stupid and dangerous. A red light jeans you shoukd stop. The fact that you believe accelerating toward it "can be useful" proves you to be an idiot and extremely poor driver.

PLEASE STOP DRIVING FOR EVERYONE'S SAFETY.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:42:35 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:02:52 2016.

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And you don't either. So don't just assume.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blv

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:50:06 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:06:00 2016.

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Yes anyone older than you is "old".

Do you know that 20 year olds think you are "old"?

Age is all relative, but you are just too dumb to realize that. I was referred to as a "young man" in a nursing home. I bet some of them have more sense than you do.

Not everyone who you think is old is senile and confused. Maybe you know more about the Internet than those in a nursing home, but I bet there are many subjects they know a hell of a lot more than you do. You need to respect your elders, not berate them. One of the many things you were never taught.

So according to you, every one who reads something on the Internet, responds.

You are in your own dream world. I ALREADY PROVED TO YOU THAT ON A SITE THAT COUNTS VIEWS, over 100 people read a post and NONE responded. Are you saying their statistics are inanacurate? YOU WOULD NEED CONCRETE PROOF TO ASSERT THAT.



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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:52:13 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Sep 28 01:26:12 2016.

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According to Stepen Bauman and even Terrapin, if they did not step into the crosswalk and THEY DID NOT, (when my car was in it), THEY DID FORFEIT THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:54:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:13:35 2016.

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Ther were cars in the other lane, so a car behind me unless he was more tha a car lane back (and that is highly unlikely) would not have been able to pull around to make a turn.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:56:49 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:18:08 2016.

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You would continue driving at the same speed although a pedestrian is crossing in front of you. That is not safe driving. You can't just assume he will get out of your way in time.

YOU NEED TO TURN IN YOUR LICENSE NOW!!!!

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:59:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:32:01 2016.

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Stephen said there was no difference between crossing within and outside the crosswalk? BULLS**T. He never said anything of the sort.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:00:16 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:26:54 2016.

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And as others stated, since no one was crossing the street, there was no reason to stop again 25 feet later at the near edge of the crosswalk.
He's talking about if it is obvious people are going to cross. Like you see them moving towards the street but they aren't in the street yet. And even then it's just a courtesy. But if the people aren't moving then there's no reason to stop and wait anywhere.

25 feet
Changing your story again? You originally said it was five feet and argued with me when I said it was more than that.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:02:53 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:33:16 2016.

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See you can't. Ha ha.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:03:32 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:33:46 2016.

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Now that is an idiot comment.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:06:39 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:34:44 2016.

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But it was red before it was green. You stated when I reached the intersection, I should not have waited for any reason. So I asked you if you meant I should have gone through the red light.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:07:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:35:31 2016.

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Ha ha.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:10:21 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 28 09:36:07 2016.

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Thanks for proving Spider Pig wrong.

So who should give up their license now?

I was correct. Although th drivers manual does not say making a wide turn as Spider suggested is illegal, you have now shown that it is.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:17:09 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:00:16 2016.

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I am not changing my story as to what happened? Why do you keep lying?

Yes I may originally have stated it was five feet. Then others corrected me and said it was 25 feet.

So if I now agree with them, I AM WRONG FOR DOING THAT. If I continue to insist it is five feet, I AM STILL WRONG FOR NOT LISTENING TO WHAT "EVERYONE ELSE" is telling me.

As I previously stated, ACCORDNG TO YOU, ANYTHING I SAY OR DO IS WRONG AND THERE IS NO SCENARIO WHERE IT IS POSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE RIGHT.

That's why I should not waste my time with you and are ignoring most of your posts.

But I will not ignore you WHEN YOU LIE!!!.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:47:59 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:10:21 2016.

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Wrong. It does not say that at all. In a big city like NYC, where there are pedestrians present and high vehicle volumes, it is sometimes practical to turn into multiple lanes.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:50:37 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:36:10 2016.

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FREQUENT LANE CHANGES ARE ALWAYS DANGEROUS.
A lie.

That's why good driving practice on a highway is to travel at the same speed everyone else is traveling even if everyone is say speeding at 5 or 10 mph above the speed limit.
LOL, bullsh^t. Complete bullsh#t. Good driving practice does not state that you should speed. Speeding is against the law.

or faster than everyone else. If everyone is doing 69, and you are the n,y one doing 75 and constantly changing lanes, YOU ARE A MENACE TO EVERYONE ON THE ROAD.
Completely incorrect. Wow.

Accelerating toward a red light IS NEVER USEFUL. It is stupid and dangerous. A red light jeans you shoukd stop. The fact that you believe accelerating toward it "can be useful" proves you to be an idiot and extremely poor driver.
Wrong. It can be useful.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:51:14 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:42:35 2016.

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We assumed nothing. You're wrong.

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