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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:29:37 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 12:51:17 2016. You can only save the pedestrians through if you have enough time to stop for them.Your fourth sentence makes no sense. One started walking (actually running) after I entered the crosswalk. Onl after I came to a complete stop did the others follow him. I do not see how I had room to go without interfering with anyone. If that had been the case there would have been no problem and I never would have posted the incident. It is irrelevent if I waited at the stop line or the crossroads,d threshold. Terrapin believes as I do that in this case since no one has their foot in the gutter to cross, was there any reason to stop again after 25 feet or so after the stop line. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:32:03 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Tue Sep 27 13:19:12 2016. It makes perfect sense. Your mind however is so closed you cannot envision any situation where a pedestrian can be wrong and a motorist right because in your mind, the opposite is always true. I truly feel sorry for your handicap. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:34:03 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 27 09:38:49 2016. There really wasn't "a front line" They were pretty much crossing in single file in front of me. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:37:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:23:40 2016. Then what was the reason why they just didn't let me get out of their way? Apparently there weren't any cars behind me also turning, because as soon as I cleared the crosswalk the remainder of pedestrians crossed normally within the crosswalk. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 16:42:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:29:37 2016. 1. Obviously. I would never drive so fast that I am unable to stop.2. If you had not waited two seconds at the stop line, you'd have been at the crosswalk two seconds earlier and before the runner interfered with your progress. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:42:39 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:27:42 2016. Wrong. I have a friend who reads what you and I both say and stays out of it although he agrees with me all the time. When I see him every month he always asks me why I even bother with you and don't just ignore you.I also knew many people who just read Sheepsheadbites and never made a comment. What would give you the idea that everyone who reads something comments? That is so far from the truth. On NYTF where they show the number of views, my last thread I start had 101 views and not a single comment. Most people who read and don't reply agree with the writer, shrug their shoulders and move on. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 27 16:43:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:29:37 2016. If you wait at the stop line, then you have to wait for enough of a gap in pedestrians to go all the way from the stop line to the completion of your turn. That requires a bigger gap and also reduces visibility of the road you are turning onto.If you move up to the crosswalk threshold, you only have to worry about a gap large enough for you to get through the crosswalk and can already see where you are going up ahead after the turn. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:44:40 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:30:49 2016. Why not? It only takes a second or two to step off the curb and enter the lane of traffic if you are running which he was doing until he saw me slowing down to stop for him. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:45:09 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:31:21 2016. No what? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:47:13 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:32:39 2016. Wrong. If I pull up to the crosswalk, he would still be at the stop line. There is no room for more than one car between the crosswalk threshold and the stop line. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:49:12 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:34:02 2016. It certainly would have prevented them from stepping into the gutter. And why wou,d they have not stepped into the gutter? BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE SCARED OF BEING RUN OVER. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:53:46 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:36:38 2016. I would think you would be telling me that because that is the only legal alternative to what I did do which was wait two seconds, then proceed at 10 mph until I passed the crosswalk. YOU STATED THAT I WAS WRONG IN DOING THAT.So when I present you with the only legal alternative, you claim I shouldn't have done that either. But you never explain WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE ACCORDING TO YOU. All you do is say I every alternative was wrong. So quit beating around the bush and state how you would have handled the situation. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:01:24 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:40:40 2016. I did exactly as you stated except I did it two seconds later which had no outcome on when pedestrians started crossing. And I spider slow down and stop when. Saw the pedestrian in danger. SO THERE IS NO REASON FOR ME TO TURN IN MY LICENSE.I was driving at ten mph and still it was not possible to stop before the far edge of the crosswalk. So are you now saying 10 mph was too fast? First you said I should have been driving faster so as not to give pedestrians the chance to cross. YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. So make up your mind. Was I driving too fast or too slow? The only way for me to stop before the far edge of the crosswalk to allow pedestrians to cross within the crosswalk is if I proceeded at 5 mph. Is that the speed I should have been traveling? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:02:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:41:28 2016. And the best thing to do when dealing with you is to ignore you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:05:16 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:42:58 2016. You are the one without reading comprehension. Because turning immediately or turning after two seconds, did not change the fact that all the pedestrians were still on the sidewalk. And not giving them those two seconds to start walking would have meant I would be cutting them off if they wanted to cross although they still were on the sidewalk. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:07:48 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:44:57 2016. Sorry. Nothing changed. Saying the person started crossing without mentioning that he was running does not change the fact that he started crossing.I didn't say at that time that he was running because it wasn't relevent until people started asking questions and wanted clarification. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:10:48 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Tue Sep 27 13:44:59 2016. And why was it unsafe for them to do so?It was because they DID NOT START CROSSING WHEN THE SIGNAL CHANGED. I gave them two extra seconds, which Terrapin says was wrong, because I was being nice. So when they did not begin to cross even after two seconds, THEY FORFEITED THEIR RIGHT OF WAY since they were not in the gutter as Stephen Bauman pointed out. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue Sep 27 17:11:28 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:32:03 2016. I truly feel sorry for your handicap.It's mutual, bud. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:12:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:46:00 2016. You are a real dick if you believe you speak for everyone. Plenty disagree with you and you disagree with many. So you couldn't possibly speak for everyone here. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:15:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:50:02 2016. What in the world are you talking about saying I didn't clear the intersection. Of course I did after the 20 people crossed and someone then gave me the opportunity to because he had a head on his shoulders.And you are now saying there is no difference between crossing within and outside the crosswalk? Of course there is. There is a world of difference. One us legal and the other is not. And Stephen said nothing of the sort to dispute that. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:18:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:52:31 2016. I was waiting at the green light for a VERY SPECIFIC REASON. To see if anyone wanted to cross the street.It was prudent and safe and I was not being inconsiderate. If I was being inconsiderate, the cars behind me would have blown their horns. The fact that no one did proves they knew the reason why I was waiting and that they agreed with me. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:20:47 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:53:28 2016. No I only respond to you now when you ask a legitimate question.When you just say wrong or bump or own3d, or insult me without explanation, I do ignore you. If I replied to all your posts I would not have any time to do anything else and I would live here like you do. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:35:45 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 27 16:24:43 2016. You say 1.3 seconds. I said it would take somewhere between one and two seconds for me to cross the crosswalk by car. That means if someone stepped off the curb within the crosswalk after I started accelerating, it would have been impossible for me to stop to give them the right of way. That is why no one stepped off the sidewalk within the crosswalk.That's why the pedestrian who started to cross, first went around the other pedestrians to be outside the crosswalk when he started running. He knew that was his only chance to beat me. Why he felt he had to beat me is beyond me. He could and should have waited the two seconds for me to pass and none of this would have happened. It is the same type of stupidity that drivers who accelerate when the see a red signal instead of coasting to a stop. They gain nothing. Or aggressive drivers who change lanes five tines in ten seconds just pass two cars. What is their hurry? They jeopardize safety (theirs and those around them) for no good reason. I thank you for sympathizing. You are the only one. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:39:15 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 27 16:43:08 2016. I see your point. But my visibility was not hindered at the stop line since I had my head turned and was perfectly able to see if anyone had stepped into the gutter or not.And since no one had started crossing, there was no gap to worry about. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:40:13 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Tue Sep 27 17:11:28 2016. Except I don't have one. You do. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 18:52:50 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 16:42:08 2016. Correct. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 18:54:12 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:39:15 2016. He's talking about if there are peds crossing. Of there aren't then once you start turning as soon as the light turns green, you keep on turning and don't stop. Very simple stuff. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 18:55:36 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:29:37 2016. It's not irrelevant where you stopped/waited, since in this case you should not have stopped/waited ANYWHERE, as we have been trying to tell you. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 18:56:26 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:40:13 2016. No, you do. Why else would you sit still at a green light for no reason?? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:29:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 16:42:08 2016. No.You don't know He could have started two seconds earlier if I started two seconds earlier. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:36:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 26 14:35:29 2016. Ha ha. I am correct. You are WRONG.This is what Page 48 of the NYS Drivers Manual states: "RIGHT TURN: As you prepare to turn, get as far to the right as possible. Do not make wide, sweeping turns. Unless signs direct you to do otherwise, turn into the right lane of the road you enter." So making a wide right turn as you suggest, (which may not be illegal) is unadvisable. So I have been doing it correctly all these years and you have been doing it wrong. CUT UP YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE NOW! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Sep 27 19:38:39 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:36:54 2016. So making a wide right turn as you suggest, (which may not be illegal) is unadvisable.It's unadvisable and unnecessary in the suburbs. It dramatically increases vehicle throughput at an intersection like 42nd Street and 8th Ave. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:43:06 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 18:54:12 2016. You don't stop even if someone crosses your path like the pedestrian did?No. YOU STOP. You can't assume he will out run you. What if he trips and falls and you hit him? You would be at fault and he could be dead. TURN IN YOUR LICENSE IMMEDIATELY! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:46:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 18:55:36 2016. It's not irrelevant where you stopped /waited, since in this case you should not have stopped/waited ANYWHERE, as we have been trying to tell you. ANYWHERE? You mean I should have ran the red light? CUT UP YOUR LICENSE NOW! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:47:46 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 18:56:26 2016. There was a reason as I already explained to you. It was to give the pedestrians a chance to start crossing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:08:45 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:36:54 2016. I don't give a shit about the drivers manual. I care about the actual statutes. Namely VTL § 1160. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:11:12 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:36:54 2016. And once again, you're still wrong. You claimed that turning otherwise into the closest lane is illegal. It isn't. What the state recommends student drivers do is totally useless. If you haven't started driving like an experienced driver yet, just give up. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:12:48 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by AlM on Tue Sep 27 19:38:39 2016. Even there it's not inadvisable. Basically it's only good advice for a student driver, which is whom the driver's manual is for. As I just said, if he's still driving like a student driver at this point, he should give up. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:15:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:46:54 2016. Huh? The light was green. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:16:33 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:47:46 2016. And as we've been trying to explain, you were stopped in the wrong place for that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 21:22:40 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:35:45 2016. The frequent lane changes are only dangerous when the lane changer causes someone else to stop short or otherwise try to compensate. It's perfectly fine if it's done with adequate clearance.As for accelerating to a red light, it is usually stupid, but it could be useful. As for you stopping for the "runner," in order to put this to rest, yes, you were right for stopping where you did and not injuring anybody and the runner was an idiot. But you're not blameless. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:02:52 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:29:08 2016. No. You.dont.Know. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:06:00 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:42:39 2016. Wrong. It's like I said. Not like you said. You clearly don't understand how the internet works. Which is not surprising, considering how old and confused you are.The people on NYCTF apparently think some guy who was majorly wrong about the R-179s is a God. So using them does not help your case. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:07:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:43:06 2016. You're an idiot. My post was very clear except that an "if" came out as an "of". You successfully totally screwed up your reading comprehension. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Sep 27 23:08:19 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:58:42 2016. Apparently you do not have the capability to understand Englush"But the pedestrian didn't have a god g en right to be there, occifer (hic)" |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:10:49 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:44:40 2016. No, the discussion from the beginning was not about someone running. You added that recently, which entirely changes the story. We're talking about a ped walking off the curb from a spot adjacent to the crosswalk and suddenly being in front of your car in two seconds. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:12:15 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:45:09 2016. NO to your first, second, and third sentences. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:13:35 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:47:13 2016. Wrong. He can pull around you to turn fro further ahead in the lane. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:14:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:49:12 2016. Wrong. No it wouldn't have. NYC peds are not scared little sh%ts like you. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:16:18 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:53:46 2016. I've already told you. Many times. |
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